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Moondust is still a problem.

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Moondust.

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Moondust.

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Moondust is still a problem.

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Moondust.

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Moondust.

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Moondust.

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Moondust.

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I mean, that's the thing I

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shouldn't say.

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But that's what people are, I

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mean, that he's this, you know.

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But he's a highly intelligent,

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what, I mean, there's

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absolutely no, and this is the

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other part that I want to

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stress with this.

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I mean, it doesn't matter, they

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won't chase people, but people

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are saying, oh, he must have

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had help.

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Steve had no help.

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Steve didn't take help.

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It did not take a village for

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Steve.

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Steve was an armed, I'm sorry.

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Please don't.

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I'm using a club wheel.

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I was about to use a club wheel

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term.

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This is my core armed forces.

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Steve was a standalone guy.

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Okay?

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Steve...

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Hello, everyone.

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Merry, not Christmas.

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It's not even Christmas yet.

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But the music is playing.

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You had to understand, Steve

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was a little quirky.

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Here, I mean, here's the story.

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You know, here's how Steve is.

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I would go, you know, when I

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was flying or whatever, if he

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was in town and I happened to

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be flying over, I'd stop in.

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Where, you know, we'd go to the

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hotel and stay at the hotel for

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a couple days or something and

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sit under the cabana or

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something like that.

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But with Steve, it was...

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It was like...

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I want to wish you a merry day.

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He needs to spend...

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I get to partake of a bunch of

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thousands of dollars of comps

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on the hotel.

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But Steve would say, oh, can

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you go get me a sandwich?

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Of course, I use.

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I mean, someone might not

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understand that...

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There he is.

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And there he was.

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You have to...

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You would go get him a sandwich

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if you needed a sandwich.

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Go get him a sandwich.

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You know, this nonsense about

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how did he get the guns into

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the...

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You take a $100 bill and you

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hand it to the bell cap and

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they go, oh, Mr. Pat, I'll go,

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hi.

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Oh, you got a couple bags today?

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Okay, we'll take those up.

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I mean, there's no magic there.

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If you want to...

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If you're going to call him

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crazy...

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If you're going to call him

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crazy because he's an angry

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person,

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then you had better call

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everybody on the news at 4 o'clock

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to 12 o'clock at night a crazy

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person.

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Okay?

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That's the end of the day.

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Was he an angel?

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Of course he wasn't an angel.

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Was he an angel?

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Of course he wasn't an angel.

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Of course he did.

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Well, I...

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But I'm not talking about that.

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I mean, I...

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You know, I...

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You find...

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You find me anything, anywhere.

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People who...

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Who have no reason to tell you

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that he was a nice guy.

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People who used to pay him rent.

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I mean, the story about the...

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About our apartments that we

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have.

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The guy says, oh, and by the

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way, you know, the place sucked

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when we moved...

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When we bought it.

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We fixed it up and made a nice

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place for these people to live.

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And Steve gave him...

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I mean, gave him cheap rent

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because we wanted happy people.

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Nice people in our apartments.

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He said, yeah, he had a quirky

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sense of humor.

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What the hell is a quirky sense

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of humor?

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People watch movies where they

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butcher little kids.

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What the hell are you...

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Good point.

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This is why everybody...

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And here's my...

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Strong.

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Strong point.

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This is what everybody's so

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scared about right now.

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When Steve can do this, we are

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in deep...

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Deep shit.

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Because there's just nothing

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there.

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You find me where someone who's

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like Steve does this.

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I hope the hell they find when

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they do the autopsy that there's

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a tumor in his head or

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something.

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Because if they don't, we're

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all in trouble.

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Because this is...

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Steve was just...

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I mean...

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Steve's dead.

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You can't say anything bad

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about him anymore because who

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cares?

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Say whatever you want about him.

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I don't...

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It's not gonna hurt me.

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Something horrible happened to

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my brother.

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And whatever happened to him in

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his head that made him go over

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the edge like this...

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And don't...

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You know, when the lights go

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out at night...

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You put your head on your

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pillow.

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This is you and me.

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I mean...

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Come on, guys.

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This is what everybody's so

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scared about right now.

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Sorry about that.

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You cannot have to be done.

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I sure hope so, but we have...

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He's not well.

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What was the other one?

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It was like...

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Oh, it's coming up to a good

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bit, I think.

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Someone asked me about...

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Do I know what they're...

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I mean, my mom wants his...

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Her son's ashes.

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I don't have any idea how to...

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Nobody's contacted me.

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I mean, who knows what they do.

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Are we gonna have a...

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Are we gonna have a funeral?

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Steve wasn't into funerals.

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Steve was into being alive

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today.

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Yeah.

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What a fucking thing to say.

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Like, he wasn't into funerals.

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He was into being alive, to be

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honest.

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He didn't like funerals.

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He was more into being alive.

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Thank you very much there.

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Chris McBee, who says,

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Please leave my son Gax alone.

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Anonymous, thank you very much

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for the tip.

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Love the top.

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What range is it from?

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I don't know.

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I think it's a designer job,

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but it was a gift.

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Give it to me.

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My friend Lee, thank you very

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much for the top.

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It's a good top.

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It's a solid jumper.

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And it matches the Gax dummy as

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well.

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Rea and Schlug, thank you very

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much there for the tip.

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Hanley Mass, thank you very

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much.

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And 12 Daisy of Christmas,

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thank you for your tip there.

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It happened in between this

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stream and the last stream,

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which was a Connor Williams

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stream from earlier today.

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But I'm not really into funerals

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myself.

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I'm more into being alive.

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You wanted to have a...

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If you wanted to have a party,

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go hang out while people are

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alive.

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That was how Steve lived.

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Funerals weren't...

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You've been able to speak with

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us so much.

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Thank you very much there,

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Garrett, for that.

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We'll get into the stream in a

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minute.

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Sorry, I just get stuck on this.

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...so good about talking to us.

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How have you been able to keep

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such a level head throughout

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all this?

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I know you said you had a

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stressful job, but...

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Because I'm an old-fashioned

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guy.

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My life has been...

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You know, I'm going to say my

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life hasn't been wonderful.

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And then some poor guy who's,

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you know, got cancer and his

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mom, you know...

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You know, someone's got a worse

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life than me.

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I'm...

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I have lived...

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And I don't want to talk about

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me because I'm just...

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I'm...

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He says that after 20 minutes

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of non-stop chat.

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And then that's a great face as

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well.

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It's a fantastic face.

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I have lived...

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I have lived...

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And I don't want to talk about

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me because I'm just a...

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I'm...

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And this is what sucks.

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I'm going to use the same terms.

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I'm just a guy.

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I'm just a guy.

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Here's Eric Paddock.

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I was...

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National Bread.

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Thanks very much for the tip.

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It's a quirky kind of tip.

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It's a quirky kind of tip that

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you just said.

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You're not into funerals.

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You're into computer games.

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Thank you very much, National

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Bread and Garrett and Chris McBee

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and SK.

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The youngest son.

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I grew up with a single mom.

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Steve was like...

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The dad, sir.

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I mean...

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Oh, yeah.

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00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:40,880
Fuck.

296
00:08:41,740 --> 00:08:42,660
Took me camping.

297
00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:48,520
Wow.

298
00:08:49,580 --> 00:08:50,720
I had a tough time.

299
00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,070
I did dumb stuff when I was a

300
00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:52,780
teenager.

301
00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:53,620
Okay?

302
00:08:54,460 --> 00:08:55,140
I didn't...

303
00:08:55,140 --> 00:08:56,440
I have no criminal record range

304
00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,490
of that stuff because I'm

305
00:08:57,490 --> 00:08:58,940
smarter than the average bear.

306
00:08:58,940 --> 00:08:59,980
And I knew to hang out with

307
00:08:59,980 --> 00:09:01,180
people who were dumber than I

308
00:09:01,180 --> 00:09:02,510
was and who would get caught

309
00:09:02,510 --> 00:09:02,820
faster.

310
00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:03,600
Okay?

311
00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:04,460
Bottom line.

312
00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:05,300
That's how it works.

313
00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:07,080
Have you asked yourself...

314
00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:07,640
I mean...

315
00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,080
The face when someone asks him

316
00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,800
a question, look, and interrupts

317
00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,500
his flow.

318
00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,600
Don't interrupt the bear.

319
00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,870
When the bear is cooking, stop

320
00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:18,800
fucking asking him questions

321
00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:19,760
like that.

322
00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,140
Let him just do his stuff.

323
00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,980
Thank you very much there, Schnuffles,

324
00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:25,100
for the tip there.

325
00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:28,340
And who would get caught faster?

326
00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:29,410
I don't think that someone

327
00:09:29,410 --> 00:09:30,380
needs to get him...

328
00:09:30,380 --> 00:09:31,380
That man back into the house,

329
00:09:31,380 --> 00:09:31,960
says Aisling.

330
00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,130
I don't think there was anyone

331
00:09:33,130 --> 00:09:34,160
in the fucking house.

332
00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:36,240
By the sound of things, he's

333
00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,900
just acting alone.

334
00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,840
Like his brother.

335
00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:40,840
Thank you very much, Roger Cook.

336
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,820
Very Merry Christmas to you.

337
00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:45,680
And thank you very much there

338
00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,120
for the tip as well.

339
00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,220
And none other than Jamesy.

340
00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,380
Big shout out to Jamesy.

341
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,820
Thank you very much there.

342
00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:04,430
But don't interrupt a man when

343
00:10:04,430 --> 00:10:06,610
he's in the middle of his

344
00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:09,220
fucking flow like this guy.

345
00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:10,880
Do you know?

346
00:10:11,260 --> 00:10:12,000
I'm not talking about ye.

347
00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:13,120
Sorry, the tips are lovely and

348
00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,100
everything like that.

349
00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:15,400
But I mean, I'd say his head

350
00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,870
would be wrecked if people were

351
00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:18,060
tipping him for him.

352
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,570
I'd love to send him a tip and

353
00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:21,200
see what he said about it.

354
00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,080
He should do some streams.

355
00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:23,520
Bear.

356
00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,060
And I knew to hang out with...

357
00:10:25,060 --> 00:10:26,330
And I have no criminal record

358
00:10:26,330 --> 00:10:27,690
or any of that stuff because I'm

359
00:10:27,690 --> 00:10:29,280
smarter than the average bear.

360
00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,330
And I knew to hang out with

361
00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:31,520
people who were dumber than I

362
00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,670
was and who would get caught

363
00:10:32,670 --> 00:10:33,140
faster.

364
00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:33,920
Okay?

365
00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:34,820
Bottom line.

366
00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,680
That's how it works.

367
00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:37,560
Have you asked yourself why...

368
00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,060
And that's the face there.

369
00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:41,180
That's the look.

370
00:10:42,340 --> 00:10:44,060
Of incredulity.

371
00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:45,200
Or whatever you call that.

372
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,580
He's on...

373
00:10:48,580 --> 00:10:50,000
He's fielding questions.

374
00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:50,790
He doesn't know where they're

375
00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:51,260
coming from.

376
00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:52,080
He's never had...

377
00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,940
This is a man who's probably

378
00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:56,040
never had this gaggle.

379
00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:57,240
Many people are around...

380
00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,000
Well, who does?

381
00:10:58,420 --> 00:11:00,520
Who's ever had that many people

382
00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,940
around them firing questions

383
00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:05,000
after one of your closest

384
00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,460
relatives has massacred a lot

385
00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:08,580
of people?

386
00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:11,320
I mean, there's nobody there

387
00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,760
that has told him...

388
00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,330
Has given him any advice in the

389
00:11:14,330 --> 00:11:15,520
family, it seems.

390
00:11:15,660 --> 00:11:17,180
I think he's acting alone.

391
00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:18,630
I mean, you know, he loved, you

392
00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:19,930
know, Vegas and the gaming life

393
00:11:19,930 --> 00:11:20,560
and...

394
00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:22,240
And I'd love to do a live watch

395
00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,240
along, Omar, of Money Machine,

396
00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,160
but it would get taken down.

397
00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:27,180
I think.

398
00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:28,680
He was a casino to...

399
00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:29,750
I mean, nothing you know, but

400
00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:30,770
if you asked yourself why he

401
00:11:30,770 --> 00:11:31,620
would take it...

402
00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:31,940
Absolutely.

403
00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:32,680
He loved so much.

404
00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:32,900
Well, of course.

405
00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:33,520
Absolutely.

406
00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,540
It's not that he...

407
00:11:34,540 --> 00:11:35,580
Steve didn't love it.

408
00:11:35,620 --> 00:11:36,380
It was a job.

409
00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,160
I did a job for 30 years that I

410
00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,820
wasn't all that crazy about,

411
00:11:39,820 --> 00:11:41,400
but I made a lot of money.

412
00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,640
Lovely stuff.

413
00:11:42,820 --> 00:11:43,920
I didn't love my job.

414
00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,240
I pretty much hated my job.

415
00:11:45,340 --> 00:11:46,400
But I made a lot of money.

416
00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,630
You know, in the wake of the

417
00:11:49,630 --> 00:11:51,780
biggest...

418
00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:52,640
I keep saying it.

419
00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:54,300
I'm just repeating myself the

420
00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:55,960
whole time where it just never

421
00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,640
ceases to astound or amaze me

422
00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,140
in the wake of such a tragedy

423
00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:01,680
to be saying this.

424
00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,330
I did a job for 30 years that I

425
00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:04,900
wasn't all that crazy about,

426
00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:06,340
but I made a lot of money.

427
00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,620
I made a lot of money.

428
00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:10,660
Okay.

429
00:12:11,580 --> 00:12:13,000
I didn't love my job.

430
00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:13,960
I pretty much was all that

431
00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,050
crazy about, but I made a lot

432
00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:15,600
of money.

433
00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:16,640
Okay.

434
00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:18,120
I didn't love my job.

435
00:12:18,180 --> 00:12:19,540
I pretty much hated my job, but

436
00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:20,620
I made a lot of money.

437
00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:22,040
I created four children

438
00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,120
successfully.

439
00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:24,380
I have a house.

440
00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:25,320
I have a retirement.

441
00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:25,820
I get to go...

442
00:12:25,820 --> 00:12:26,920
Surely the kids would have gone,

443
00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,710
Dad, seen the interview you did

444
00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:29,540
last night.

445
00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,360
Is everything okay?

446
00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:33,890
I think maybe stay around at

447
00:12:33,890 --> 00:12:35,480
ours tonight.

448
00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:36,940
Yeah, stay around at ours

449
00:12:36,940 --> 00:12:38,380
because they're going to be

450
00:12:38,380 --> 00:12:39,670
outside the house until

451
00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:40,280
tomorrow.

452
00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,800
Or for the next few days.

453
00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:43,540
So come around.

454
00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:45,140
Chillax the cacks.

455
00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,440
And, you know, don't be going

456
00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,980
out there again, you know?

457
00:12:48,980 --> 00:12:50,270
I drive around in my cheap

458
00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:51,600
little motor home now.

459
00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:52,980
It's not...

460
00:12:53,620 --> 00:12:54,800
Steve didn't love the casino.

461
00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,320
The casino was a means to an

462
00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:56,760
end.

463
00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,360
The casino to him was like a

464
00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,080
job.

465
00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:01,060
It was like...

466
00:13:01,060 --> 00:13:02,480
He hated the marriage, but he

467
00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,760
made a lot of children.

468
00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,780
A job at Toyota in Japan where

469
00:13:05,780 --> 00:13:07,270
you live in the Toyota

470
00:13:07,270 --> 00:13:09,700
apartments across the street.

471
00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:11,450
And then you go to the Toyota

472
00:13:11,450 --> 00:13:12,720
factory to work.

473
00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:13,900
That's what the casino...

474
00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:14,840
That's all the casino was to

475
00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:15,140
him.

476
00:13:15,180 --> 00:13:16,210
It was a place where you lived

477
00:13:16,210 --> 00:13:17,180
and they were nice to you.

478
00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,220
And you made...

479
00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:19,830
And you could get it paid for

480
00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:21,040
by playing slots.

481
00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,480
What would you say to families

482
00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,500
who are trying to...

483
00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:24,850
You're saying the kids might

484
00:13:24,850 --> 00:13:26,130
have actually told him to go

485
00:13:26,130 --> 00:13:27,360
back out and try and turn it

486
00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:27,800
around

487
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,330
after the previous night's

488
00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,020
interview didn't go so well.

489
00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,500
What I'm saying...

490
00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,620
I'm crying.

491
00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:36,910
You know, you say, how am I

492
00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:37,700
holding up?

493
00:13:37,780 --> 00:13:39,010
I woke up, you know, and once

494
00:13:39,010 --> 00:13:39,960
again, it's...

495
00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,300
I'm not a crying kind of guy.

496
00:13:41,420 --> 00:13:42,200
I'm the guy...

497
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,100
I'm the guy who helps everybody

498
00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:45,550
else go around and ask my

499
00:13:45,550 --> 00:13:46,420
neighbor.

500
00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,520
The lady who pulled in, I

501
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:48,840
helped her husband pull a tree

502
00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,680
off his house and stand up his...

503
00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,020
I'm the kind of guy who goes

504
00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:53,140
around and helps.

505
00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,480
Imagine he was your neighbor.

506
00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,780
It'd be fucking great, Crack.

507
00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,660
I'm just that...

508
00:13:57,660 --> 00:13:59,060
I mean, sorry, I'm just that

509
00:13:59,060 --> 00:13:59,800
kind of guy.

510
00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:00,400
Was I...

511
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,380
I'm extremely lucky in life.

512
00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:05,300
Extremely quirky, lucky kind of

513
00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:05,800
guy.

514
00:14:06,380 --> 00:14:08,240
But I worked for it a lot.

515
00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,020
I mean, go find my history.

516
00:14:10,220 --> 00:14:12,220
I worked a billion hours and...

517
00:14:12,220 --> 00:14:13,220
Fair fucking place with him.

518
00:14:13,580 --> 00:14:14,580
And was not home with my family

519
00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:16,220
yet, and et cetera, et cetera.

520
00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,200
But I'm not guilty for being

521
00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,380
successful.

522
00:14:20,180 --> 00:14:20,850
But for all the rest of the

523
00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:21,960
people...

524
00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,280
What was the no, I'm not?

525
00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,420
I missed that then.

526
00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,440
Did he say, am I perfect?

527
00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,380
No, I'm not.

528
00:14:26,380 --> 00:14:28,340
Or did he say, I'm not a killer?

529
00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:31,140
Go around and ask my neighbor.

530
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,190
The lady who pulled in, I

531
00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:33,020
helped her husband.

532
00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:34,170
And pull a tree off his house

533
00:14:34,170 --> 00:14:35,300
and stand up his...

534
00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:36,710
I'm the kind of guy who goes

535
00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:37,860
around and helps.

536
00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,060
I'm just that...

537
00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:40,430
I mean, sorry, I'm just that

538
00:14:40,430 --> 00:14:41,160
kind of guy.

539
00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,780
I'm extremely lucky in life.

540
00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:44,800
You know?

541
00:14:45,420 --> 00:14:47,300
But I worked for it a lot.

542
00:14:47,460 --> 00:14:49,060
I mean, go find my history.

543
00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,960
I worked a bit...

544
00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,740
Find my history.

545
00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,150
Howie, thank you very much

546
00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:52,700
there.

547
00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:54,740
The tip.

548
00:14:54,740 --> 00:14:56,030
I worked for hours and was not

549
00:14:56,030 --> 00:14:57,450
home with my family yet, and et

550
00:14:57,450 --> 00:14:58,560
cetera, et cetera.

551
00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:00,530
But I'm not guilty for being

552
00:15:00,530 --> 00:15:01,700
successful.

553
00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:03,100
But for all the rest of the

554
00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:04,940
people, for all the...

555
00:15:04,940 --> 00:15:06,120
Here, I mean, once again,

556
00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,480
please.

557
00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:07,260
I'm just wanting to know what

558
00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:08,110
you say to the families, of the

559
00:15:08,110 --> 00:15:09,160
victims who are trying...

560
00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,520
The families...

561
00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:09,940
Okay.

562
00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:11,720
Here to talk with us today

563
00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,740
about the handheld device is

564
00:15:13,740 --> 00:15:14,960
Eric Paddock.

565
00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,280
Eric, how are you?

566
00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:17,520
I'm okay.

567
00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,480
I'm a Windows kind of guy.

568
00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:21,480
All right.

569
00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:22,580
What else?

570
00:15:25,660 --> 00:15:27,460
Think about Steve.

571
00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:28,420
Okay.

572
00:15:28,420 --> 00:15:29,370
Whatever you have to think

573
00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:29,980
about Steve.

574
00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,520
Here's my statement.

575
00:15:31,860 --> 00:15:32,990
If we have to have a funeral

576
00:15:32,990 --> 00:15:35,460
for Steve, here's how pragmatic...

577
00:15:35,460 --> 00:15:37,220
This is how pragmatic I am.

578
00:15:37,780 --> 00:15:39,520
If having a funeral for Steve...

579
00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:41,710
And letting all these people

580
00:15:41,710 --> 00:15:44,520
come and spit on his grave...

581
00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,870
Will make them feel better in

582
00:15:45,870 --> 00:15:47,260
any way, shape, or form.

583
00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:47,880
Heavy blow.

584
00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,560
I'm using the far end here.

585
00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:50,180
Come on, guys.

586
00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,440
Give me a little stretch here.

587
00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:55,150
If having a funeral for Steve

588
00:15:55,150 --> 00:15:57,960
would help anybody, I will do

589
00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,440
whatever is possible.

590
00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,140
I mean, I'm...

591
00:16:03,140 --> 00:16:04,660
Give me a little stretch here.

592
00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:05,760
I mean, come on, guys.

593
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,040
Give me a little stretch here.

594
00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,720
It's like he's under...

595
00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,810
I mean, he is under duress,

596
00:16:09,810 --> 00:16:11,000
obviously, and all that.

597
00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:12,460
But, I mean, he doesn't have to...

598
00:16:12,460 --> 00:16:13,780
He's laboring the duress.

599
00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,020
He could just be saying it.

600
00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,440
And maybe the solemn...

601
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,860
I wonder what he thought like,

602
00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:18,440
you know?

603
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,590
Because my thought process

604
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:20,440
would be...

605
00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,440
Just don't fucking...

606
00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:24,440
Just say...

607
00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,440
Just try and intimate how...

608
00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,160
shocking and crushing this is.

609
00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:33,160
Get it done in...

610
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,440
In 15 seconds, 20 seconds, 30

611
00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,480
seconds the most.

612
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,090
My family would like to have

613
00:16:38,090 --> 00:16:39,920
private time to grieve now.

614
00:16:40,660 --> 00:16:41,220
And...

615
00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,060
Look, thank you.

616
00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:43,760
I'm sorry.

617
00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:45,320
I have to go inside and all

618
00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,560
this, you know?

619
00:16:48,020 --> 00:16:48,960
Leave me alone.

620
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,840
Leave me alone.

621
00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:52,180
Basically would be the...

622
00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:53,750
The overarching message I'd be

623
00:16:53,750 --> 00:16:54,820
trying to...

624
00:16:54,820 --> 00:16:55,480
Get across.

625
00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,370
I don't think I could do

626
00:16:57,370 --> 00:16:58,740
fucking 30 minutes.

627
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:00,740
Do you know?

628
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,880
It's like a stand-up show.

629
00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:07,350
My heart is torn, is destroyed

630
00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:09,320
for all these people.

631
00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,460
I...

632
00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:13,100
But I can't tell you why Steve

633
00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,800
did what he did.

634
00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,040
It doesn't...

635
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,660
It's so far...

636
00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:20,660
Over the side of the cliff...

637
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,200
From Steve that I knew.

638
00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:26,040
Did he grouse about people?

639
00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:26,740
Yes.

640
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,960
If you went into...

641
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,460
I mean...

642
00:17:28,460 --> 00:17:41,840
You guys...

643
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,440
Come on.

644
00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,140
If you...

645
00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:44,060
You go in...

646
00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:44,440
Do any...

647
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,720
You guys ever gamble at all?

648
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,260
When you gamble and you win,

649
00:17:47,260 --> 00:17:48,420
you're all happy.

650
00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,480
It doesn't matter if you're up

651
00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,100
$500.

652
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,180
When you lose, you're not happy.

653
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,890
So, you know, you're unhappy

654
00:17:53,890 --> 00:17:55,110
that you lost because you think

655
00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:55,420
you lost.

656
00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:56,320
But there's no...

657
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,280
Thank you very much there, Mr.

658
00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:58,980
Murphy.

659
00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:00,800
Secretly watching at work.

660
00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:04,260
Trying not to laugh out loud.

661
00:18:05,020 --> 00:18:06,390
Can you please say hello to

662
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:09,320
Richie, who's stranded in Carlow?

663
00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,140
Look, lads.

664
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,520
I didn't even know there was a

665
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,980
fucking storm until...

666
00:18:12,980 --> 00:18:14,630
Or meant to be a warning from

667
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:16,410
the counties of the east of the

668
00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:17,220
country.

669
00:18:17,260 --> 00:18:18,060
I'm not sure about Mayo.

670
00:18:18,060 --> 00:18:19,370
I didn't know there was meant

671
00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:21,060
to be a fucking storm until...

672
00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:24,260
Until probably like 9 or 10 a.m.

673
00:18:24,780 --> 00:18:25,340
Maybe not.

674
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,240
Yeah, less than that.

675
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,090
And then I got word from Connor,

676
00:18:29,090 --> 00:18:30,840
who is in Dublin.

677
00:18:31,580 --> 00:18:32,970
Said it's a fucking nightmare

678
00:18:32,970 --> 00:18:33,600
zone.

679
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,180
And there was traffic problems.

680
00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:38,540
Something on the N5.

681
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,920
I don't know why he was on the

682
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,020
N5, but he was.

683
00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:42,080
Okay.

684
00:18:42,740 --> 00:18:43,260
That's...

685
00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:44,280
That's Steve.

686
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,340
But I hope everyone's okay.

687
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:46,960
It's...

688
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,240
And I hope the power doesn't go...

689
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,180
A la last year.

690
00:18:50,260 --> 00:18:51,230
Because that will happen during

691
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:51,740
the stream.

692
00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:52,890
So if the stream does just go

693
00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:54,090
down like that, you'll know

694
00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:55,180
that the power is gone.

695
00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:57,270
I'm not sure we're going to get

696
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:59,180
it the worst in the west.

697
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,610
I mean, Steve didn't gamble

698
00:19:01,610 --> 00:19:02,420
that way.

699
00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:03,900
Steve gambled as a job.

700
00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:04,820
A job?

701
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,990
What's the status of the FBI in

702
00:19:06,990 --> 00:19:07,940
your family?

703
00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:08,840
They haven't talked to me yet.

704
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,200
I remember someone the last day

705
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,680
said that's just someone...

706
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,760
That's one of his neighbors

707
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,620
coming to ask him some

708
00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:14,280
questions.

709
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,180
It's not a journalist anymore.

710
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:16,800
That's just one of his

711
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,260
neighbors.

712
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,860
Eric, what's the status of the

713
00:19:19,860 --> 00:19:20,480
FBI?

714
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,720
Eric, Eric.

715
00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:23,380
What's going on?

716
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,520
Is everything okay?

717
00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:26,520
Do you want to come over?

718
00:19:27,260 --> 00:19:27,900
Yeah, come over.

719
00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:29,350
We sit down, have something to

720
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:29,720
eat.

721
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,360
Do you want a sandwich?

722
00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:32,900
We're worried about you.

723
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,860
Steve gambled as a job.

724
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,000
Eric, what...

725
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,860
What's the status of the FBI in

726
00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:38,900
your family?

727
00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:39,720
They haven't talked to me at

728
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:39,980
all.

729
00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:41,080
I know nothing from them.

730
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,480
They aren't...

731
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,160
I have to find out stuff about

732
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,420
that from...

733
00:19:44,420 --> 00:19:45,080
I thought you were working with

734
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:45,460
federal...

735
00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:46,720
I was yesterday.

736
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,460
Poor guy, like, hounded.

737
00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:50,300
I found out about this $100,000

738
00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:51,040
on the...

739
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,200
Somebody texted me.

740
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,400
If it's true, I'm sorry.

741
00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:54,530
What's the protocol in a

742
00:19:54,530 --> 00:19:55,720
situation like this?

743
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,400
Like, is there a family...

744
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,860
Would the police even be arsed

745
00:19:58,860 --> 00:20:00,200
to fucking dishing out a family

746
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:00,720
counselor

747
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,320
to the immediate relatives?

748
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,960
Or is it a case of the feds,

749
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,280
as they probably were, like,

750
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:08,540
you know,

751
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,970
just clueless as to what the

752
00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:11,020
fuck's going on?

753
00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:12,340
They were probably just like,

754
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,800
don't do anything.

755
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,010
Just let's keep an eye on this

756
00:20:16,010 --> 00:20:16,640
guy.

757
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:18,700
You know.

758
00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:20,540
It's probably the feds are

759
00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:20,940
organized.

760
00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:23,100
The press gaggle.

761
00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:25,120
I mean, I found out about this

762
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,620
$100,000 on the...

763
00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:28,760
Somebody texted me.

764
00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:30,090
If it's true, I'm sorry if it's

765
00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:30,720
not true.

766
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,240
But once again, it...

767
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,880
I mean, here I can talk to that

768
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,590
because it fits exactly into

769
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:37,620
what I would expect from Steve.

770
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,140
That he took care of Mary Lou.

771
00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:42,920
And Gullman's brother speaks.

772
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:44,650
I'd let people spit on his

773
00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:46,060
grave if it would help.

774
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,960
The most insane strands.

775
00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:49,640
Look, I'm sorry.

776
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,450
I know we've been through it

777
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:50,780
again.

778
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,790
And it's like, you're just

779
00:20:51,790 --> 00:20:52,660
repeating the hits.

780
00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:56,070
But it's the most insane bit of

781
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:57,840
television that ever happened.

782
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,980
And I don't think it's...

783
00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:00,180
I don't think it's been topped.

784
00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:01,440
Do you know?

785
00:21:05,260 --> 00:21:08,140
I mean, the fact that he took

786
00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:10,330
care of Mary Lou and then

787
00:21:10,330 --> 00:21:13,220
killed all these people, there's

788
00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:17,660
just no connection there for me.

789
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,580
I don't understand how Steve

790
00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:22,500
got to that point.

791
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,370
That's why, I mean, once again,

792
00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:26,060
and maybe we'll never know.

793
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,920
I don't know.

794
00:21:27,340 --> 00:21:29,780
But we, I mean, I'm praying.

795
00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:32,200
I mean, and even, there's no,

796
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280
so he lost $4 million.

797
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,520
So Mary Lou grew up with him.

798
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,860
There you have it.

799
00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:40,140
$4 million got lost.

800
00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:42,340
That would have probably

801
00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,200
sparked off a fucking chain

802
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,560
reaction of pure mental anguish

803
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,300
within your man.

804
00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:50,840
And then he just went and did

805
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,700
what he did.

806
00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:54,380
Thank you very much, DJ Colocube.

807
00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:56,320
Any Warzone runs on the horizon?

808
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,480
I don't.

809
00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:59,810
I uninstalled it there a few

810
00:21:59,810 --> 00:22:01,170
months ago just to make some

811
00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:02,960
space for other games.

812
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,900
So I'd have to fucking.

813
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,940
And you know the way that's.

814
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,650
How is it like a hundred and

815
00:22:06,650 --> 00:22:08,600
odd gigabytes for that game?

816
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,300
And it's.

817
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,100
It's just like a map.

818
00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:13,940
I don't understand that at all.

819
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,100
Probably should be just like 10

820
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,860
gigabytes maybe at the most.

821
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:21,220
But I don't think I will.

822
00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:22,480
Maybe, maybe, maybe for

823
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,200
Christmas.

824
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,770
Maybe around or in the new year

825
00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:25,700
or something.

826
00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:26,910
But I mean, is it, is it

827
00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:28,480
fucking worth it anymore?

828
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,800
You know, it's just like a slop.

829
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,330
It becomes like a slop gruel

830
00:22:34,330 --> 00:22:36,400
bucket where I'm just begging

831
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,340
for more slop and gruel.

832
00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:42,050
Like a kind of fucked up Oliver

833
00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:43,280
Twist.

834
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280
A laid back gangster twist.

835
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,600
Go more gruel please, more slop.

836
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,480
That's where it becomes, you

837
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,540
know, it becomes a nightmare.

838
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,940
I mean, you might see the highs,

839
00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:55,600
the very high highs of when I

840
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,340
win the game eventually.

841
00:22:57,740 --> 00:22:59,120
But there's a lot of crushing

842
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,600
blows and lows, you know.

843
00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:03,350
But it's the most beautiful

844
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:05,040
fucking slop.

845
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,390
Oh, I love that slop so much

846
00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:08,780
when it works.

847
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,200
Have you tried RedSec?

848
00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:11,590
I don't want to go into the

849
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:13,000
battlefield zone either.

850
00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:14,350
And from what I can see, I mean,

851
00:23:14,350 --> 00:23:15,400
you're probably going to

852
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:15,960
disagree.

853
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,240
All that destructible

854
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,920
environment stuff, it's too

855
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,800
much for me.

856
00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:21,810
There's just too much going on,

857
00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:22,600
you know.

858
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,490
I mean, there's enough problems

859
00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:25,980
trying to fucking kill the

860
00:23:25,980 --> 00:23:28,110
other lads that are on the map

861
00:23:28,110 --> 00:23:29,890
without the building fucking

862
00:23:29,890 --> 00:23:30,960
collapsing.

863
00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:32,340
And then all that fire.

864
00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:33,720
I don't like all that fire at

865
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,380
the side.

866
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:35,580
It's fucking annoying.

867
00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:36,840
Just have some gas.

868
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,220
It looks rubbish.

869
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,100
The fire looked rubbish.

870
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,480
Maybe it looks good on a 4K

871
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,740
setup if you've got a 4K

872
00:23:41,740 --> 00:23:43,280
monitor and you've got all the

873
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,460
whistles and bells.

874
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,940
But I didn't like it.

875
00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,280
That's not even.

876
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,300
And that's not even.

877
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,640
That wouldn't even do it for

878
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,120
Steve.

879
00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:50,780
That wouldn't even.

880
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,360
It wouldn't.

881
00:23:52,020 --> 00:23:53,220
RedSec wouldn't even do it for

882
00:23:53,220 --> 00:23:53,640
me.

883
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:54,720
Do you know?

884
00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:57,080
I don't like funerals.

885
00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:58,220
Okay?

886
00:23:58,420 --> 00:24:00,340
I like being alive.

887
00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:01,880
And Poddy Bob, thank you very

888
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,320
much.

889
00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:03,440
And DJ Colacube.

890
00:24:03,460 --> 00:24:04,180
Go on.

891
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,780
We've had setbacks.

892
00:24:05,780 --> 00:24:06,120
Listen.

893
00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:07,610
We're in the real estate

894
00:24:07,610 --> 00:24:08,740
business in LA.

895
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,220
Back when the bottom fell out

896
00:24:10,220 --> 00:24:10,680
of it.

897
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:11,870
We almost lost all of our

898
00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:12,480
savings.

899
00:24:12,860 --> 00:24:14,140
We just went on.

900
00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:16,300
I mean, there's no.

901
00:24:16,460 --> 00:24:17,040
He's resilient.

902
00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:18,720
I'm not pragmatic people.

903
00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:19,560
We just.

904
00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:20,200
I mean.

905
00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:20,800
Computer games.

906
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,320
Computer games.

907
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,540
Handheld gaming devices.

908
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,500
Handheld gaming.

909
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,540
Dara Darmody Tip.

910
00:24:26,260 --> 00:24:27,600
Thank you very much there, Dara.

911
00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:29,200
Finish watching Shenmue 1.

912
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:30,520
Any plans for Shenmue 2?

913
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,180
I'd rather play Shenmue 2 in

914
00:24:32,180 --> 00:24:33,660
its entirety again for the

915
00:24:33,660 --> 00:24:35,040
second time around.

916
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,410
Than play, you know, Warzone or

917
00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:38,200
RedSec.

918
00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,240
It's complete antithesis.

919
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,160
But I mean, it is what it is.

920
00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:44,960
And I seen there that Shenmue 3,

921
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760
which I didn't like at the time.

922
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:48,660
Even though I played it.

923
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,420
I don't think.

924
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,060
Maybe I play.

925
00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:51,310
I play these games in massive

926
00:24:51,310 --> 00:24:51,840
chunks.

927
00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:53,180
And then I just end up being

928
00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:54,520
sick of them by the end of it.

929
00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:56,760
That's getting an upgrade.

930
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,390
So if you bought it on the PS4,

931
00:24:58,390 --> 00:25:00,160
which I did back in 2019 or

932
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,180
2020.

933
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:02,840
Then.

934
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,780
It'll upgrade for the PS5

935
00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:06,820
better graphics or some shit

936
00:25:06,820 --> 00:25:07,840
like that.

937
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:08,840
So maybe even just playing

938
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,880
those again, you know.

939
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,360
We keep going.

940
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,020
We just.

941
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,940
We just keep going.

942
00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:14,180
Not keeping going.

943
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,000
There was something that

944
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,600
happened to Steve.

945
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,040
That.

946
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,280
Yeah.

947
00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:22,010
I'm not even trying to excuse

948
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:23,380
anything or anything.

949
00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:24,020
Uh-huh.

950
00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:25,570
But something happened that

951
00:25:25,570 --> 00:25:27,360
drove him into the pit of hell.

952
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,180
There you have it.

953
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,020
And.

954
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:30,040
And.

955
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,900
He did this.

956
00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:32,380
Yeah.

957
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:33,660
You're hoping that there's some

958
00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:34,910
autopsy will reveal something

959
00:25:34,910 --> 00:25:35,620
to explain.

960
00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:37,300
I'm praying for at least some

961
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:38,240
data points.

962
00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:39,540
Because otherwise.

963
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:40,500
It's.

964
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,240
It's.

965
00:25:41,380 --> 00:25:41,700
You know.

966
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:41,980
The.

967
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,910
The bug in Men in Black put on

968
00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:45,840
a Steve suit and went and did

969
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,500
this.

970
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,420
That little bug guy.

971
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:49,920
That.

972
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,160
That.

973
00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:51,060
The fella.

974
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,290
Was that the fella that was

975
00:25:52,290 --> 00:25:52,880
like the.

976
00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:53,280
The.

977
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:53,980
The mechanic.

978
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,560
Did he turn into the bug?

979
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,260
Here comes the Men in Black.

980
00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:06,600
They won't let you remember.

981
00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:10,080
Crazy little bug.

982
00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:12,240
Crazy little bug.

983
00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:13,940
In Men in Black too.

984
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,060
At least some data points.

985
00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:17,220
Because otherwise.

986
00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:18,300
It's.

987
00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:19,020
It's.

988
00:26:19,260 --> 00:26:19,520
You know.

989
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:19,800
The.

990
00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:21,690
The bug in Men in Black put on

991
00:26:21,690 --> 00:26:23,920
a Steve suit and went and did.

992
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,620
I must have fucking missed this

993
00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:28,780
the first time around.

994
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,910
I can't remember talking about

995
00:26:29,910 --> 00:26:30,260
this.

996
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:32,820
The bug in Men in Black put on

997
00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:34,280
a Steve suit.

998
00:26:37,260 --> 00:26:38,440
The alliteration of Steve suit

999
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,920
as well.

1000
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,730
Praying for at least some data

1001
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:42,440
points.

1002
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,600
Because otherwise.

1003
00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:44,700
It's.

1004
00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:45,420
It's.

1005
00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:45,900
You know.

1006
00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:46,160
The.

1007
00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:48,370
The bug in Men in Black put on

1008
00:26:48,370 --> 00:26:49,680
a Steve suit.

1009
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:50,340
Well.

1010
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,300
What did the fucking.

1011
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,890
The bug in Men in Black look

1012
00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:53,440
like.

1013
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,460
The bug in Men in Black.

1014
00:26:57,340 --> 00:26:57,800
Bug.

1015
00:26:58,180 --> 00:26:58,680
Men.

1016
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,240
In.

1017
00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:00,100
Black.

1018
00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:05,020
Bug men.

1019
00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:06,180
Egg.

1020
00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:07,300
Edgar the bug.

1021
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:13,920
I can't remember.

1022
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,980
I really can't remember.

1023
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,800
So it was him.

1024
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,840
It is him in his disguise look.

1025
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:19,180
So the bug was that guy.

1026
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,420
Inside that fella.

1027
00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:27,300
Went and did this.

1028
00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:28,260
I mean.

1029
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,400
There's no other.

1030
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,480
There's no other rationalization.

1031
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,920
I mean.

1032
00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:38,170
He didn't plan this for 35

1033
00:27:38,170 --> 00:27:39,240
years.

1034
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,580
How do you not know though?

1035
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,060
It just.

1036
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,610
It might have just been there

1037
00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:43,770
in the recesses of the

1038
00:27:43,770 --> 00:27:44,740
imagination.

1039
00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:46,140
Like.

1040
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,540
If it all goes fucking tits up.

1041
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280
I'm just gonna go crazy with it.

1042
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,020
I plan this for 35 years.

1043
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,360
This happened to my brother.

1044
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,640
Whatever caused him to do this.

1045
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,280
Happened in a very.

1046
00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:00,740
Again.

1047
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,760
I don't know what a very short

1048
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,660
time period is to you.

1049
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,500
Maybe it's the dangers of

1050
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:03,960
gambling.

1051
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:05,860
And then ramped up into a

1052
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:07,710
scenario whereby it's not only

1053
00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:09,620
the dangers of gambling and

1054
00:28:09,620 --> 00:28:10,830
what it can fucking do to your

1055
00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:11,220
mind.

1056
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:14,110
But if you're a high stakes,

1057
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,760
big time gambler in a place

1058
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,380
where guns are freely available,

1059
00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:22,370
then I suppose actually just

1060
00:28:22,370 --> 00:28:24,420
being in a place where guns are

1061
00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:26,000
freely available.

1062
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,390
That's the crucial factor in

1063
00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:29,380
all of it.

1064
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:32,840
You know, it needn't

1065
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,910
necessarily be a fucked up

1066
00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,020
gambling mind that is just

1067
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:40,330
being crippled by losses and

1068
00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:41,540
whatnot.

1069
00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:42,920
It could happen anywhere to

1070
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,480
anyone.

1071
00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:45,590
This happened over the course

1072
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:46,620
of months.

1073
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,660
It happened over the course of

1074
00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:49,440
months.

1075
00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:51,030
And here's what I say to the

1076
00:28:51,030 --> 00:28:51,740
people.

1077
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,090
I mean, if they're trying to

1078
00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:54,650
understand Steve, maybe no one

1079
00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:56,240
will ever understand Steve.

1080
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:56,980
No.

1081
00:28:56,980 --> 00:28:58,850
But, you know, this is what I'll

1082
00:28:58,850 --> 00:29:00,640
carry for the rest of my life.

1083
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:02,180
You know, had I called him back

1084
00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:03,580
instead of texting, would I

1085
00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:04,940
have heard something in his

1086
00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:05,500
voice?

1087
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,980
Would I have...

1088
00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:07,540
That's sad.

1089
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Would he have given up

1090
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,740
something?

1091
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,160
Would he have...

1092
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,700
I don't know.

1093
00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:13,460
I can't say.

1094
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,260
That's sad.

1095
00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:15,910
That's what I'm going to carry

1096
00:29:15,910 --> 00:29:17,370
for the rest of my life that

1097
00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:19,360
maybe I could have intervened.

1098
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,100
But I don't...

1099
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,160
That's pure conjecture.

1100
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,420
For the people...

1101
00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:27,480
Who have been affected by this...

1102
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,150
Computer Chronicles in a moment

1103
00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:29,680
there.

1104
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,320
I just want to get some more

1105
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:31,940
juice.

1106
00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:33,940
Anything I could do...

1107
00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:35,140
To make this better.

1108
00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:37,010
If there was anything I could

1109
00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:39,020
do to make this better, I would

1110
00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:39,680
do it.

1111
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480
And I...

1112
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,480
I'm...

1113
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,980
I mean, nobody wants to hear

1114
00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:47,360
this, but I'm as touched by

1115
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,160
this.

1116
00:29:48,260 --> 00:29:49,280
My brother's dead.

1117
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Who...

1118
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,630
Who wasn't this guy who did

1119
00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:52,180
this?

1120
00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:54,080
You know, he's dead.

1121
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,720
And I liked my brother.

1122
00:29:57,780 --> 00:29:59,200
He was a good guy.

1123
00:29:59,420 --> 00:30:00,540
I know this is...

1124
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:01,770
You know, nobody wants to hear

1125
00:30:01,770 --> 00:30:02,580
this, but damn.

1126
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:05,580
You know, if you knew Steve...

1127
00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:07,970
Once again, people 20 years ago

1128
00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:09,500
who have no reason to say

1129
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:11,200
anything nice about him or

1130
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,620
anything...

1131
00:30:12,620 --> 00:30:13,900
Or say nice things about him.

1132
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:14,200
The bug.

1133
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,060
The bug in men in black.

1134
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:16,720
Who don't even know him hardly.

1135
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,060
Put on a Steve suit.

1136
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,720
I'm...

1137
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,560
This is...

1138
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,140
A horror.

1139
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,100
Just a...

1140
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,240
A horror story.

1141
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,580
Okay, we'll leave it because...

1142
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,140
I'm not going to say I'm not

1143
00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:29,660
going to come back to it.

1144
00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:31,500
I think I'd just like to have

1145
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:32,820
this guy on tick.

1146
00:30:32,820 --> 00:30:36,600
You know, he's always there for

1147
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,340
me in my hour of need.

1148
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,920
And this fella too.

1149
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,190
Edgar the bug, ladies and

1150
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:44,480
gentlemen.

1151
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:46,800
From Men in Black.

1152
00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:50,580
Honorary mention for Edgar the

1153
00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:51,460
bug.

1154
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,440
Another crazy little guy.

1155
00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:57,100
He wasn't little as I can

1156
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:57,900
recall.

1157
00:30:57,980 --> 00:30:58,660
He was a big fella.

1158
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,100
All hail bug Steve.

1159
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:04,180
Thank you very much there for

1160
00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:04,880
that.

1161
00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:05,560
Let's...

1162
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,510
Let's move these fellas over

1163
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:08,120
here.

1164
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:10,020
Ah, it's...

1165
00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:10,580
It's so...

1166
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:11,920
You're saying it's a little bit

1167
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,380
depressing for sure, James.

1168
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,940
But I mean, you know, it is.

1169
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,580
It is.

1170
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:16,180
It is.

1171
00:31:16,220 --> 00:31:17,460
But there's bits and pieces in

1172
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:17,760
it.

1173
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,580
You know, it's...

1174
00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:18,840
It's...

1175
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,760
It's reality.

1176
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,840
We need to embrace reality.

1177
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,920
And come to terms with it.

1178
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:26,940
You know?

1179
00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:28,400
And then don't forget, he's in

1180
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,000
a fucking documentary where he's

1181
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,900
going...

1182
00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:31,860
He's giving both barrels.

1183
00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:33,530
Swearing and just giving it the

1184
00:31:33,530 --> 00:31:34,360
big bamboo.

1185
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,220
Thank you very much, Marcelino's

1186
00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:39,580
Bodega and Red Dead Steve.

1187
00:31:39,580 --> 00:31:41,630
I think as well, if we present

1188
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:44,040
it under the auspices of...

1189
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,580
Let's have a look at how bad

1190
00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:46,500
the media is.

1191
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,040
You know?

1192
00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:49,640
Then that overrides any sort of

1193
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,740
guilt that you might feel

1194
00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:54,960
watching it for some sort of...

1195
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,480
I'm not going to say gruesome.

1196
00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:57,140
Entertainment.

1197
00:31:57,460 --> 00:32:00,040
That would be very glib and

1198
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,440
gruesome.

1199
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,460
But I mean, it's...

1200
00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:03,640
Look.

1201
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,680
It is what it is.

1202
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,940
And it's only...

1203
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:07,160
Something will happen like that

1204
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,540
again.

1205
00:32:07,620 --> 00:32:08,320
And we'll probably see

1206
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,820
something.

1207
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:10,480
And we're like, well, fuck.

1208
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,520
We told you.

1209
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,560
Did you not see the interview

1210
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,600
with your man's brother that

1211
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:13,980
time?

1212
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,790
Something worse will happen,

1213
00:32:15,790 --> 00:32:16,520
you know?

1214
00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:18,910
Captain Sack, thank you very

1215
00:32:18,910 --> 00:32:19,620
much.

1216
00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:21,320
But if it does happen again,

1217
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,140
they probably won't.

1218
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:23,960
Because the feds will just know

1219
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,920
what...

1220
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,140
Who to...

1221
00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:26,420
Who's done it.

1222
00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:28,410
So they won't let them go on

1223
00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:29,560
television.

1224
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,300
The same way they let Steve or

1225
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:32,560
Eric go on television.

1226
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,560
But then your man who did the

1227
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,160
Charlie Kirk thing...

1228
00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:37,540
They...

1229
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:38,750
They didn't fucking know who

1230
00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:39,300
did that.

1231
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,160
So...

1232
00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:42,180
They couldn't get him, you know?

1233
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,560
And in the end, he turned

1234
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,380
himself in.

1235
00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:45,200
After the...

1236
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,100
The FBI had said, oh, we're...

1237
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:47,930
We're going to have this

1238
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:48,960
fucking solved soon enough.

1239
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,400
And then it took them a few

1240
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,920
days.

1241
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,710
And your man just turned

1242
00:32:51,710 --> 00:32:52,200
himself in.

1243
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,680
So...

1244
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,160
A pattern of...

1245
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,540
Crimes emerging out of the dark.

1246
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,380
Out of nowhere.

1247
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,120
Do you know?

1248
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,620
Sleeper situations.

1249
00:33:07,580 --> 00:33:09,120
His dad turned him in.

1250
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:10,440
Says Lex.

1251
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Or X-Leox.

1252
00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:14,010
Thank you very much, Captain Sack

1253
00:33:14,010 --> 00:33:15,020
and Red Dead Steve.

1254
00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:16,900
Computer Chronicles.

1255
00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:19,460
Let's not forget.

1256
00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:21,530
And I don't know what to dip

1257
00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:22,700
into there.

1258
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,380
I was looking just on the

1259
00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:29,450
Computer Chronicles site on the

1260
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:30,640
YouTube.

1261
00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:31,960
And there's a...

1262
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,340
I think I just scrolled down.

1263
00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:35,230
There might have been a Wendy

1264
00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:38,000
Woods episode that looked goods.

1265
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:40,430
And it had Wendy Woods in the

1266
00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:41,760
thumbnail.

1267
00:33:43,340 --> 00:33:43,840
But actually...

1268
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,340
Actually...

1269
00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,160
Actually, fuck.

1270
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:47,860
Look at this.

1271
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:50,240
That's a thumbnail.

1272
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,880
That you want to see.

1273
00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,010
Paul Schindler dressed like a

1274
00:33:54,010 --> 00:33:54,800
hippie.

1275
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,260
Wearing beads and shit.

1276
00:33:58,260 --> 00:33:59,060
And not...

1277
00:33:59,060 --> 00:34:00,040
Oh, it's a random access

1278
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,520
special.

1279
00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:01,200
That's three minutes.

1280
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,040
That's just a clip.

1281
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,240
But it might be worth a watch

1282
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,140
anyway.

1283
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:06,360
Just to see that.

1284
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,260
It looks promising.

1285
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,600
Holy shit.

1286
00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:16,160
Thank you very much, Mandalay

1287
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,720
Shafay.

1288
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,510
I thought that was a brand new

1289
00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:20,460
tip notification that I didn't

1290
00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:21,540
even create.

1291
00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:22,540
I was wondering how you'd done

1292
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:22,840
that.

1293
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:24,000
It's not.

1294
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,860
It's just the noise that Random

1295
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:26,920
Access makes.

1296
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:30,340
In the Random Access file this

1297
00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:32,600
week, it's Macworld Expo time

1298
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,680
in Boston with some 400 exhibitors

1299
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,060
showing off their latest Mac

1300
00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:36,760
products.

1301
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,400
Northgate had this upgraded Mac

1302
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,070
keyboard, the OmniMac Ultra,

1303
00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:41,680
featuring macro software.

1304
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,320
Isn't it great?

1305
00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:43,950
Sorry, just to see Stu as well,

1306
00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:44,620
you know.

1307
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,400
What?

1308
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:48,080
What a man, what a man, what a

1309
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,420
man, what a mighty, mighty man.

1310
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:53,420
A mighty, mighty good man.

1311
00:34:53,860 --> 00:34:54,610
Datadesk has a new user

1312
00:34:54,610 --> 00:34:56,230
configurable keyboard called

1313
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:57,340
the Switchboard.

1314
00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:58,920
CE Software was showing off its

1315
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,370
new upgrade of QuickKeys, a

1316
00:35:00,370 --> 00:35:01,340
macro utility.

1317
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,760
And Reference Software was

1318
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,690
offering free upgrades of Grammatic

1319
00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:05,120
Mac.

1320
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,180
Following the intro of the IBM

1321
00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:09,000
PS1, Tandy has announced the

1322
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,860
new 1000RL computer.

1323
00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:11,300
And you know what's coming?

1324
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:12,610
Schindler's on the way dressed

1325
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:13,300
like a hippie.

1326
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,160
24 home-oriented programs, like

1327
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,030
a bill tracker, checkbook balancer,

1328
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:18,760
shopping organizer, and so on.

1329
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,280
He really is.

1330
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,400
He is like a real palate cleanser.

1331
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,780
Green Eagle.

1332
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,800
After all the heavy paddock

1333
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,300
talk.

1334
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:25,920
So on.

1335
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:27,070
Commodore has announced the

1336
00:35:27,070 --> 00:35:28,760
launch of its new Amiga 3000.

1337
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,010
I love that, the way it's just

1338
00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:32,900
going from him to him.

1339
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,610
Look, him to him on another

1340
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:35,700
camera angle.

1341
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:37,240
And then the strand with his

1342
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:38,360
name on it again.

1343
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:40,980
Like, as if we're gonna forget

1344
00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:42,040
that face.

1345
00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:43,740
Give me a fucking break.

1346
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:45,370
The other Jeff, thank you very

1347
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:45,840
much.

1348
00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:48,430
Would you consider checking out

1349
00:35:48,430 --> 00:35:50,250
Arty reality TV show Celebrity

1350
00:35:50,250 --> 00:35:50,780
Farm?

1351
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,510
In a follow-up from Who Wants

1352
00:35:52,510 --> 00:35:53,980
to Be a Millionaire?

1353
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,400
Possibly, maybe, definitely,

1354
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,380
maybe, possibly, maybe not

1355
00:35:58,380 --> 00:35:59,180
though.

1356
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,280
Do you know?

1357
00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:02,000
Maybe not.

1358
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,040
I can't guarantee.

1359
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,790
But what I can say is that I've

1360
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:06,290
been well furnished with

1361
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:08,020
suggested videos since I put

1362
00:36:08,020 --> 00:36:10,160
out the call there the last day.

1363
00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:12,010
I feel as though it's just

1364
00:36:12,010 --> 00:36:14,190
Computer Chronicles for me at

1365
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:16,590
this moment in time, if you don't

1366
00:36:16,590 --> 00:36:17,300
mind.

1367
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,340
Thank you very much, Jeff.

1368
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,680
Several major retail stores,

1369
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,120
including Macy's and Montgomery

1370
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,580
Wards.

1371
00:36:21,940 --> 00:36:23,010
Commodore says the Amiga will

1372
00:36:23,010 --> 00:36:25,020
be in 1,200 retail outlets by

1373
00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:26,140
the end of the summer.

1374
00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:27,780
Epson has announced a new color

1375
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,120
scanner that sells for $2,000,

1376
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120
less than the amount of $1,000.

1377
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Some black and white scanners.

1378
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:33,910
Time for this week's software

1379
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:34,460
review.

1380
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,460
Here's Paul Schindler.

1381
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,540
Remember the 60s?

1382
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,540
Peter Max?

1383
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:39,700
Tie-dyed shirts?

1384
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:40,660
The sitar.

1385
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:42,080
Well, I'm not here to tell you...

1386
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,060
The sitar.

1387
00:36:43,540 --> 00:36:44,560
The 60s?

1388
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Peter Max?

1389
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,700
Tie-dyed shirts?

1390
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,680
The sitar.

1391
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,980
Well, I'm not here to tell you

1392
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:50,340
about anybody's greatest hits

1393
00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:50,780
album,

1394
00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:51,880
but I am going to tell you

1395
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,520
about a software package that,

1396
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,200
for me at least,

1397
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,830
brings back memories of those

1398
00:36:55,830 --> 00:36:56,760
halcyon days.

1399
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,500
Fractools from Borbaki.

1400
00:36:58,740 --> 00:37:00,240
From the people who brought you

1401
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:01,420
the WonderDos shell,

1402
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,540
comes the company's most

1403
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:03,670
amusing yet instructive

1404
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:04,680
software package.

1405
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,340
What a hard on the eyes

1406
00:37:06,340 --> 00:37:07,320
scenario,

1407
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:08,570
and that's even before you've

1408
00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:10,930
got into the psychedelic, kaleidoscopic

1409
00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:11,920
graphics.

1410
00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:13,820
Just Fractools.

1411
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,660
By Borbaki.

1412
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,880
Borbaki's Fractools.

1413
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:19,370
Shell comes the company's most

1414
00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:20,610
amusing yet instructive

1415
00:37:20,610 --> 00:37:21,680
software package.

1416
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,010
Thank you very much there, Stu

1417
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:25,920
Sorbet.

1418
00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:27,740
Fractools generates fractals.

1419
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,500
Complex, geometric shapes based

1420
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,070
on natural forms like clouds,

1421
00:37:31,070 --> 00:37:32,540
trees, and coastlines.

1422
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:33,870
You can put the program on

1423
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:35,440
automatic mode and veg out,

1424
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,840
what could be more 60s.

1425
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,280
Veg out, dude.

1426
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,730
Or you can participate in the

1427
00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:40,080
creation of your own patterns

1428
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,210
using a toolkit Borbaki

1429
00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:41,940
provides.

1430
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,310
Officials at Borbaki like to

1431
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:44,490
promise that Fractools is

1432
00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:45,720
guaranteed to reduce your

1433
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:46,660
productivity.

1434
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,480
Borbaki.

1435
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Just for tripping out like.

1436
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,940
You've seen the same fractals

1437
00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:53,320
at computer shows on systems

1438
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,020
that cost thousands of dollars.

1439
00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:56,670
Generate them on your PC by

1440
00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:58,920
spending $45 on Fractools.

1441
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:00,890
Chaos made to order from Borbaki

1442
00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:02,200
in Boise, Idaho.

1443
00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:03,820
For the Computer Chronicles, I'm

1444
00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:04,720
Paul Schindler.

1445
00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:05,500
Borbaki.

1446
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,760
Looking at the top 10 software

1447
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,850
titles for the Macintosh this

1448
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:09,090
week, MacConnection reports

1449
00:38:09,090 --> 00:38:10,440
that Symantec's antivirus

1450
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,980
program is the bestseller,

1451
00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:13,680
followed by Pyro, Type Reunion,

1452
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,300
Lifetree's Grammar Checker, and

1453
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:16,020
Quicken.

1454
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,590
Rounding out the top 10 are

1455
00:38:17,590 --> 00:38:19,160
Type Manager, Word, Excel,

1456
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,040
Delta Graph, and Suitcase 2.

1457
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:23,940
Suitcase 2 sounds like a dream

1458
00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:24,620
app.

1459
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,940
Higgins isn't simple.

1460
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,820
Higgins isn't simple.

1461
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,210
Thank you very much, Joey the Lips,

1462
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:31,840
for your continued support and

1463
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,440
tips.

1464
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,440
Very, very kind of you.

1465
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Manager, Word, Excel, Delta

1466
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Graph, and Suitcase 2.

1467
00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:38,040
Sun has unveiled its new under

1468
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,260
$10,000.

1469
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:39,960
You got a Sun.

1470
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,580
On our Unix workstation, Sun

1471
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:43,260
also announced its first ever

1472
00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:45,350
retail deals with Entrez, MicroAge,

1473
00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:46,140
and 9X.

1474
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,700
Finally, if you watch Married

1475
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,460
with Children on TV, get ready.

1476
00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:50,760
Have seen this one because it's

1477
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,040
meant to be a computer game.

1478
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,350
I remember going, we're going

1479
00:38:53,350 --> 00:38:54,680
to see that game and play it.

1480
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,980
It's not playable.

1481
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,060
So this is a Shafé cut, which

1482
00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:00,320
we've been through already.

1483
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,010
It's amazing how it just, you

1484
00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:03,440
forget about it because it's so

1485
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,280
ephemeral in nature, the show.

1486
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:06,460
There's so many of them.

1487
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,040
The little bits and pieces like

1488
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,490
this just go by and you forget

1489
00:39:09,490 --> 00:39:10,320
about them.

1490
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,510
For Married with Children, the

1491
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:12,180
computer game.

1492
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,960
Columbia Pictures has licensed

1493
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,560
the rights to the racy TV show.

1494
00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:16,720
Obviously nobody has even said

1495
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,040
you've seen this yet, you know.

1496
00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:19,380
To share data software.

1497
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:21,160
That's it for this week's Chronicles.

1498
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,200
We'll see you next time.

1499
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:24,150
The Computer Chronicles is made

1500
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:26,320
possible in part by CompuServe.

1501
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,380
Maybe somebody said it.

1502
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,020
Which offers online information

1503
00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:30,600
related to today's subject.

1504
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,440
Members type GoChronicles.

1505
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,810
Non-members call for more

1506
00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:34,720
information.

1507
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:36,200
Additional funding is provided

1508
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,450
by the Software Publishers

1509
00:39:37,450 --> 00:39:38,280
Association.

1510
00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:39,220
By PC Connection and Mac

1511
00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:39,900
Connection.

1512
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:40,940
It's just a three-minute clip.

1513
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,140
Of a full episode.

1514
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,620
It is.

1515
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,040
We've seen the episode because

1516
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,440
I remember thinking, that's

1517
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,800
going to be the next game.

1518
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,550
And then I went looking for

1519
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:49,380
that game.

1520
00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:51,660
And it just wasn't available.

1521
00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:53,960
At the time.

1522
00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:58,140
But look at all this.

1523
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,800
It's the Dara Darmody special.

1524
00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:03,780
Situation room.

1525
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:05,520
Paddock bomb.

1526
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,040
Every possible way.

1527
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,490
It's the bad twist at the end

1528
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:13,160
of a good movie.

1529
00:40:13,220 --> 00:40:14,320
You know, at the end of a good

1530
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,260
movie or something.

1531
00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:16,120
It was a good movie.

1532
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,560
It's.

1533
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,820
How in the hell did this happen?

1534
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,340
Hey, Eric.

1535
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:22,260
What do you know?

1536
00:40:22,340 --> 00:40:23,640
What facts do you know about

1537
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,040
the last weeks or months?

1538
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,060
Look at this.

1539
00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:27,260
I'd like to go into this.

1540
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,320
Just this title here.

1541
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,700
Silicon Glen.

1542
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,360
Smart TV.

1543
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,990
As the computer and television

1544
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:37,000
begin to emerge.

1545
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,120
We started seeing intelligent

1546
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:39,840
TV sets.

1547
00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:41,160
This program looks at some

1548
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,840
examples.

1549
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,640
I mean, obviously, computing

1550
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,520
for seniors.

1551
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:48,980
A look at how senior citizens

1552
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,780
are using computer technology.

1553
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,160
McNally's TripMaker 96.

1554
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,640
Willmaker from Nolopress.

1555
00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:59,480
And Family Tree Maker from Banner

1556
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Blue.

1557
00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:01,220
Yeah, I think we'll go with

1558
00:41:01,220 --> 00:41:01,920
that there.

1559
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,640
Sorry about that.

1560
00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:04,860
Obviously, you know, the.

1561
00:41:05,420 --> 00:41:06,730
The seasonal offering of

1562
00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:08,960
Computer Chronicles has to be

1563
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,340
the consumer buyer's guide.

1564
00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:14,340
Which I probably would rather

1565
00:41:14,340 --> 00:41:16,180
enjoy as a kind of miniature

1566
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:17,100
marathon.

1567
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,720
You know, back to back.

1568
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,060
Seasonal buyer's guide.

1569
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,600
In some shape or format.

1570
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:26,520
But not now.

1571
00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:28,900
We'll leave that until it gets

1572
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:30,760
a little bit closer.

1573
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:33,420
And that's a loud situation

1574
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:34,980
right there.

1575
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,140
So we'll best turn that down.

1576
00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:39,280
We'll get our remix keys

1577
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,180
available to us.

1578
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,700
Computing and seniors.

1579
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:45,900
1996.

1580
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,520
Duh.

1581
00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:52,860
Duh.

1582
00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:55,340
Lovely.

1583
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:05,500
This week on the Computer Chronicles.

1584
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Computers and senior citizens.

1585
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:08,940
Older Americans are now turning

1586
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:09,840
to computers.

1587
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:11,450
To improve the quality of their

1588
00:42:11,450 --> 00:42:11,960
lives.

1589
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,020
Maybe a PC and the right

1590
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:13,700
software.

1591
00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:14,640
Speed of her look.

1592
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,380
What do you do for your parents?

1593
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:16,540
Fucking speed.

1594
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speed diligence.

1595
00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:21,680
True, utter due diligence.

1596
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,450
Being performed at a rapid

1597
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:24,780
lightning pace.

1598
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,720
On that keyboard there.

1599
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,050
And your man had a pair of

1600
00:42:29,050 --> 00:42:31,480
fantastic braces on.

1601
00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:36,040
And he also looked like a quintessential

1602
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,720
senior citizen.

1603
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,930
As well with the tash and the

1604
00:42:39,930 --> 00:42:40,640
hair.

1605
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:41,940
Of their lives.

1606
00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:43,020
Maybe a PC and the right

1607
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:44,520
software would be good for your

1608
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,020
parents or grandparents.

1609
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:46,500
Fast.

1610
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:47,930
We'll show you the most popular

1611
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:48,920
software for seniors.

1612
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,500
Programs to plan trips.

1613
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:51,940
Programs to plan estates.

1614
00:42:52,180 --> 00:42:53,160
Most popular software.

1615
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,260
There you go.

1616
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,240
Software for seniors.

1617
00:42:58,620 --> 00:42:59,180
Programs to plan.

1618
00:42:59,180 --> 00:43:02,170
And that's the man there who

1619
00:43:02,170 --> 00:43:05,160
tells you where to go on your

1620
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,660
holidays.

1621
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:08,260
If you're senior.

1622
00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:10,330
You've got this crazy little

1623
00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:10,880
guy.

1624
00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:13,580
Who appears in a dialogue box.

1625
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:16,360
Who says select regions, states,

1626
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,670
or countries to explore in the

1627
00:43:18,670 --> 00:43:19,680
list box.

1628
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,460
Plan trips.

1629
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:24,880
Programs to plan estates.

1630
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:26,200
And software that helps you

1631
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,600
trace your family roots.

1632
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,860
We'll visit a senior center

1633
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:29,970
where retired folks are

1634
00:43:29,970 --> 00:43:31,560
learning to use the internet.

1635
00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:33,180
We'll explore senior net and

1636
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:35,260
online services especially for

1637
00:43:35,260 --> 00:43:36,280
older Americans.

1638
00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:37,720
Also, internet tips.

1639
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,960
This week's computer news.

1640
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:40,160
And my pick of the week.

1641
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:41,430
All coming up next on the

1642
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:42,700
Computer Chronicles.

1643
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,260
Solid.

1644
00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:46,390
Computer Chronicles is made

1645
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:49,700
possible in part by...

1646
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:50,960
And you can tell it was hot in

1647
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,240
San Francisco or the Valley or

1648
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,480
wherever it's filmed.

1649
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Because the fella there talking

1650
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,810
to Stu has got his shorts and

1651
00:43:57,810 --> 00:43:59,240
his sneakers on.

1652
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,640
Tanned calves.

1653
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,650
And look at the extension on

1654
00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:07,420
Stu's leg there as well.

1655
00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:08,620
Khaki clad.

1656
00:44:09,060 --> 00:44:09,900
Extendo leg.

1657
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,720
5,000.

1658
00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:13,620
These fantastic desks.

1659
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:14,740
Very high.

1660
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:17,000
And then you've got these stools.

1661
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,440
These bar stools to match as

1662
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,020
well to get that purchase.

1663
00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:21,700
But that's his starting point.

1664
00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:23,180
That's Stu's launch pad.

1665
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:25,320
Where he...

1666
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,320
He...

1667
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,320
Emerged.

1668
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,450
He's launched from that area of

1669
00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:30,460
the studio.

1670
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,460
We never actually see any

1671
00:44:31,460 --> 00:44:32,920
interviews taking place there.

1672
00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:34,950
That's just where he begins his

1673
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:35,680
saunter.

1674
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,660
Over to this buck here.

1675
00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:39,280
Who's already sat down ready

1676
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,200
and waiting.

1677
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,470
A floor manager or someone is

1678
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:44,300
just saying...

1679
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:44,980
Don't get ready.

1680
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:45,440
Get ready.

1681
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,120
It's going to be good.

1682
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:47,160
He's going to start coming over

1683
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,700
to you soon.

1684
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,240
Get ready for Stu.

1685
00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:52,820
She's telling him...

1686
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:53,990
See that guy there with his

1687
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:54,660
back to you?

1688
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,600
In the red shirt.

1689
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,600
And the extended khaki...

1690
00:44:58,540 --> 00:44:59,760
Chino leg.

1691
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,160
He's going to come at you now.

1692
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,260
And then you can begin the

1693
00:45:04,260 --> 00:45:05,080
dance.

1694
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,060
He's going to dismount.

1695
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,600
Developing PCs for business.

1696
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:15,080
I like it.

1697
00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:17,540
You really get to see the...

1698
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:19,020
We're being treated to the

1699
00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:19,700
studio.

1700
00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:23,300
We're not just the audience.

1701
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:26,310
We're a part of the crew even,

1702
00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:26,740
you know?

1703
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,300
Welcome to my world.

1704
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,760
Won't you step inside?

1705
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:33,340
And then boom.

1706
00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:34,840
Lights up.

1707
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:41,980
Straight in for the kill.

1708
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,840
Handheld gaming devices.

1709
00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:49,720
Hi and welcome to the Computer

1710
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:50,420
Chronicles.

1711
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,620
I'm Stuart Chiffey.

1712
00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:51,980
Lovely.

1713
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Sometimes we get the impression

1714
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,880
that only young guys use

1715
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,680
computers.

1716
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:56,890
Well, that's not really true,

1717
00:45:56,890 --> 00:45:57,420
of course.

1718
00:45:57,660 --> 00:45:58,520
Young guys.

1719
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,060
But what may surprise you is

1720
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:01,800
that one of the fastest growing

1721
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,480
groups of new computer users

1722
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,920
are senior citizens.

1723
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,610
Now, one good thing about

1724
00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:07,900
getting older and retiring is

1725
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:09,190
that you have the time, maybe

1726
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:10,600
even the money, to travel.

1727
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,070
And one of the most popular

1728
00:46:12,070 --> 00:46:13,960
software categories for seniors

1729
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,740
is trip planning software.

1730
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:17,120
One of the best in that

1731
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,200
category is TripMaker from Rand

1732
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,680
McNally New Media.

1733
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,400
Welcome, Michael.

1734
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,100
Thank you.

1735
00:46:22,180 --> 00:46:23,650
Okay, let's say my parents are

1736
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:23,980
in.

1737
00:46:23,980 --> 00:46:24,870
It's an interesting scenario

1738
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:25,360
for Michael.

1739
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,840
I mean, what would senior

1740
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,900
citizens use these days, even?

1741
00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:30,080
It's just Google, isn't it?

1742
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,190
Or they'd buy a package holiday,

1743
00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:33,920
much like the ones advertised

1744
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,600
on Midwest, where you go away

1745
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,290
as part of a junket express

1746
00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:42,940
tour to the Costa del Sol for a,

1747
00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:45,340
you know, what was it?

1748
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,240
What's the name?

1749
00:46:47,380 --> 00:46:48,140
Tommy Marin.

1750
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,680
And you get to see, like,

1751
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,300
Michael English and other

1752
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:51,940
singers.

1753
00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:54,500
You're there for a week or two.

1754
00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:56,920
That kind of a way.

1755
00:46:57,220 --> 00:46:58,260
Everything's catered for, you

1756
00:46:58,260 --> 00:46:59,430
know, your evening meal, all

1757
00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:00,600
that sort of business.

1758
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,190
But then again, maybe not so

1759
00:47:02,190 --> 00:47:03,240
much nowadays.

1760
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,190
I mean, look, people would just

1761
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:06,880
be, I'd say there are a lot of

1762
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,490
people who just do their own

1763
00:47:08,490 --> 00:47:10,170
stuff without having to go on

1764
00:47:10,170 --> 00:47:11,660
those package deals.

1765
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,870
But the package deal would be

1766
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:13,520
very handy.

1767
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:16,750
So even back in 1996 now, I'd

1768
00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:18,960
say it's asking a lot of the

1769
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,390
senior citizen to start ingratiating

1770
00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:23,420
themselves in the ways of the

1771
00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:25,830
Internet and then downloading,

1772
00:47:25,830 --> 00:47:27,800
installing software.

1773
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,580
It's a lot of work for them.

1774
00:47:30,580 --> 00:47:32,080
Rand McNally, Newt Media.

1775
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,840
Welcome, Michael.

1776
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,420
Thank you.

1777
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:33,920
Thank you.

1778
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:33,920
Okay.

1779
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,110
Let's say my parents are in

1780
00:47:35,110 --> 00:47:36,360
Chicago and they've always

1781
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,500
wanted to come out west of

1782
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,040
California and they're planning

1783
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:39,600
a trip.

1784
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,790
How would they use the software

1785
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:41,660
to help them do that?

1786
00:47:41,660 --> 00:47:42,200
Okay.

1787
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,230
Well, let's get started and

1788
00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:44,060
take a look at the Explorer

1789
00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:44,480
Guide.

1790
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,830
The Explorer Guide helps you

1791
00:47:45,830 --> 00:47:47,360
investigate locations and find

1792
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,780
interesting things to do.

1793
00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:52,180
We focused on ease of use.

1794
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,340
You can see the, and hear the

1795
00:47:54,340 --> 00:47:55,340
audio here.

1796
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:57,010
Even help you select a

1797
00:47:57,010 --> 00:47:58,360
destination.

1798
00:47:59,060 --> 00:47:59,260
All right.

1799
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,120
So we're going to pick a place

1800
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,500
to go to.

1801
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,180
And I said California, Nevada.

1802
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,090
Let's go ahead and select

1803
00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:04,040
California, Nevada.

1804
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:06,040
These are all the trip types,

1805
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,140
interesting attractions that

1806
00:48:08,140 --> 00:48:09,320
you might see.

1807
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,750
Scroll down if you want to go

1808
00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:12,370
to the beach, tennis, golf,

1809
00:48:12,370 --> 00:48:14,280
fishing, outdoor adventure.

1810
00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:15,280
I don't think there'll be much.

1811
00:48:16,860 --> 00:48:17,170
Well, maybe they'll be suited

1812
00:48:17,170 --> 00:48:18,960
or tailor-made to the senior

1813
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,760
citizen.

1814
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,090
But I mean, you wouldn't think

1815
00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:22,020
to be that entrepid.

1816
00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:22,680
By category.

1817
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,040
So if they're interested in

1818
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,400
particular things to do once

1819
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,560
they get there, they can

1820
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,160
customize the trip planning?

1821
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,100
Yes, they can, by their

1822
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:29,640
interest.

1823
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:31,060
So they would like a heritage

1824
00:48:31,060 --> 00:48:31,800
type stuff.

1825
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,940
Let's select heritage.

1826
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:33,920
Heritage type stuff.

1827
00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:34,520
They might be interested in

1828
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,400
camping, boating, and fishing.

1829
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,140
Okay.

1830
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,710
Let's run down through the list

1831
00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:38,200
here.

1832
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,270
Maybe urban attractions in

1833
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:40,160
different cities.

1834
00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:40,520
Okay.

1835
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,870
And let's also select vacation

1836
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:43,720
cities.

1837
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,020
Okay.

1838
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,740
Here you set the calendar, the

1839
00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:49,920
time that you want to take your

1840
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,300
trip.

1841
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:50,620
Mm-hmm.

1842
00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:51,620
Mm-hmm.

1843
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,560
Here's the fun.

1844
00:48:55,020 --> 00:48:56,000
And here you have all those

1845
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,270
attractions that meet the

1846
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:58,640
criteria that you set.

1847
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,550
So these are the areas they

1848
00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:00,560
might want to visit once they

1849
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,220
come out here.

1850
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,370
Like L.A., for example, it

1851
00:49:02,370 --> 00:49:03,060
would be a city.

1852
00:49:03,460 --> 00:49:04,320
And so what would the program

1853
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,510
tell me about what to do when

1854
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:06,640
they get to L.A.?

1855
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:24,200
Be a good choice.

1856
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,180
Yeah, see, he spoke over Stu's

1857
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:30,200
question, which led to hanging

1858
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,060
Chad.

1859
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,360
We hear that again.

1860
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:34,560
And so what would the program

1861
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,710
tell me about what to do when

1862
00:49:35,710 --> 00:49:36,800
they get to L.A.?

1863
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,630
It's kind of, it's a real, I

1864
00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:42,520
mean, if you want to derail Stu,

1865
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,860
I suppose a good way of doing

1866
00:49:44,860 --> 00:49:46,350
it is just to go out, be in

1867
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:47,780
your own world when Stu's

1868
00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:49,240
trying to hammer you.

1869
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:49,320
Yeah.

1870
00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:51,960
And this isn't the most hammerhead

1871
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,580
we've seen, Stu.

1872
00:49:53,660 --> 00:49:54,400
We know what he's like.

1873
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,780
He's ruthless if he wants to be.

1874
00:49:56,780 --> 00:49:57,540
Like L.A., for example, it

1875
00:49:57,540 --> 00:49:58,560
would be a city.

1876
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,820
And so what would the program

1877
00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:01,010
tell me about what to do when

1878
00:50:01,010 --> 00:50:02,160
they get to L.A.?

1879
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,160
Be a good choice.

1880
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:04,520
That's on Michael now.

1881
00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:06,070
That's not on Stu because you

1882
00:50:06,070 --> 00:50:07,700
don't wait 10 minutes for

1883
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:09,440
someone to go into the next bit

1884
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,300
of chat to go, be a good choice.

1885
00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:12,700
Maybe Michael's kind of, maybe

1886
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:14,160
it's just, you know, nerves.

1887
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:15,800
Of all those attractions that

1888
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,660
meet the criteria that you set.

1889
00:50:17,660 --> 00:50:18,790
These are the areas they might

1890
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:19,870
want to visit once they come

1891
00:50:19,870 --> 00:50:20,360
out here.

1892
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,520
Like L.A., for example, it

1893
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,220
would be a city.

1894
00:50:22,620 --> 00:50:23,460
And so what would the program

1895
00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:24,570
tell me about what to do when

1896
00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:25,700
they get to L.A.?

1897
00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:27,220
That's a big delay, isn't it?

1898
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:28,870
What you can do is find a

1899
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:31,150
narrative as well as a lookout,

1900
00:50:31,150 --> 00:50:33,460
which is a new feature that we've

1901
00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:36,100
added to the software this year.

1902
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:39,940
Hollywood, movie and television

1903
00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:42,270
capital, is only a part of the

1904
00:50:42,270 --> 00:50:45,180
West Coast's leading metropolis,

1905
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,250
which began in an area around

1906
00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:49,710
the old Spanish Plaza, north of

1907
00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:51,140
the Civic Center.

1908
00:50:52,200 --> 00:51:06,860
And so on and so forth.

1909
00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:16,490
You bring up a panoramic image

1910
00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:21,400
of Los Angeles.

1911
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,940
You can zoom around that image.

1912
00:51:23,140 --> 00:51:24,500
There are hot spots that allow

1913
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:25,800
you to go in and click on

1914
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,370
various locations and find out

1915
00:51:27,370 --> 00:51:28,260
more about it.

1916
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:29,390
It does more than just buying

1917
00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:30,820
the book on L.A., for example,

1918
00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:31,750
because it has all these

1919
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:33,060
interactive elements to it.

1920
00:51:33,380 --> 00:51:33,700
Yeah.

1921
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,850
So you get a real feel for Los

1922
00:51:34,850 --> 00:51:35,840
Angeles and what there is to do

1923
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,180
there and what there is to say.

1924
00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:38,500
I know they don't really care

1925
00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:39,560
that much about the city.

1926
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,810
They want to do the Carmel,

1927
00:51:40,810 --> 00:51:42,340
Monterey, gorgeous California

1928
00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:42,740
bit.

1929
00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:43,820
So how would I help them with

1930
00:51:43,820 --> 00:51:44,200
this?

1931
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,810
Okay, the software can help you

1932
00:51:45,810 --> 00:51:46,560
out there as well.

1933
00:51:46,660 --> 00:51:47,880
Let's go down and select Carmel.

1934
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,580
Michael McCona...

1935
00:51:48,580 --> 00:51:49,380
McConaughey.

1936
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Oh, okay.

1937
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:50,940
The software can help you.

1938
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:51,880
McConaughey.

1939
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:52,620
McConaughey.

1940
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,520
Rand McNally.

1941
00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:57,690
And he's beginning to work with

1942
00:51:57,690 --> 00:51:58,840
Stu now.

1943
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,430
And it's a lovely coiffured

1944
00:52:02,430 --> 00:52:03,420
side shrub

1945
00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:08,080
with a side parting maneuver

1946
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,180
box on top.

1947
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,880
But so clean.

1948
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,240
So well washed.

1949
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,900
Out there as well.

1950
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:18,240
Let's go down and select Carmel.

1951
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:21,900
And once you come into Carmel,

1952
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:23,510
you have a video of that area

1953
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:25,050
you can play and learn more

1954
00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:25,800
about it.

1955
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,540
100 miles of California's

1956
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:28,920
central coast called Big Sur

1957
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,940
offer one of the most

1958
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:31,880
spectacular driving experiences.

1959
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:33,180
Big Sur.

1960
00:52:34,180 --> 00:52:34,500
All right.

1961
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,690
Now, how do they actually

1962
00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:37,120
figure out how to get there?

1963
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,220
You can take a sound of a look.

1964
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:39,580
All right.

1965
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,790
Now, how do they actually

1966
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:42,220
figure out how to get there?

1967
00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:43,440
Suppose they're going to drive.

1968
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,800
Does this help them plan the

1969
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,750
route and that kind of stuff

1970
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:46,040
too?

1971
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,380
Sure.

1972
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,540
From here, you can go ahead and

1973
00:52:47,540 --> 00:52:48,320
set destination.

1974
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:50,210
And we'll set Carmel as a

1975
00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:51,160
destination.

1976
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,180
Go into the trip guide.

1977
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,640
And we're going from Chicago to

1978
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,100
Carmel.

1979
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,080
So at this point, we'll go

1980
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,320
ahead and calculate our trip.

1981
00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:01,610
He must have a little rollerball

1982
00:53:01,610 --> 00:53:03,910
on his laptop there because he's

1983
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:05,700
doing his mouse work.

1984
00:53:05,780 --> 00:53:06,960
But I don't see a mouse.

1985
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,670
So there must be some sort of

1986
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:12,560
fingerball in the middle of the

1987
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,140
pad.

1988
00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:14,470
And we're going from Chicago to

1989
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:14,980
Carmel.

1990
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:15,750
So at this point, we'll go

1991
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:16,080
ahead.

1992
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,620
Zero eye contact indeed, CJ.

1993
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:19,600
I noticed that.

1994
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,600
He's just been like that the

1995
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,820
entire time.

1996
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,310
But he does have to navigate

1997
00:53:24,310 --> 00:53:25,980
through the menu and system.

1998
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,590
But you would like to have that

1999
00:53:27,590 --> 00:53:28,600
bit of rapport.

2000
00:53:28,820 --> 00:53:30,110
And I think Stu can feel it as

2001
00:53:30,110 --> 00:53:30,560
well.

2002
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,200
And we'll set Carmel as a

2003
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,280
destination.

2004
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,740
It's not great.

2005
00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:35,520
Go into the trip guide.

2006
00:53:37,540 --> 00:53:38,520
And we're going from Chicago to

2007
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,540
Carmel.

2008
00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:40,430
So at this point, we'll go

2009
00:53:40,430 --> 00:53:41,620
ahead and calculate our trip.

2010
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:42,420
Okay.

2011
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,230
And what does it mean to

2012
00:53:43,230 --> 00:53:43,980
calculate the trip?

2013
00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:45,410
That means we'll identify the

2014
00:53:45,410 --> 00:53:46,750
best route for you to take in

2015
00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:48,320
between Chicago and Carmel.

2016
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:49,820
Medusa, Stu.

2017
00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:50,580
And also bring up...

2018
00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:52,370
Maybe he is scared of looking

2019
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:53,600
at Stu in the eye.

2020
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,980
Because he's already felt...

2021
00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:56,820
Stuff to do on the way.

2022
00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:57,600
His presence.

2023
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,660
How to get there, where to make

2024
00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:59,690
the lefts and the rights and

2025
00:53:59,690 --> 00:54:00,300
all that stuff.

2026
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,340
Exactly.

2027
00:54:00,340 --> 00:54:01,350
You can go ahead and look at

2028
00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:02,650
the attractions and identify

2029
00:54:02,650 --> 00:54:03,560
all those on your route that

2030
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,240
you might be interested in.

2031
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:05,200
stopping by to see.

2032
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:06,100
And you can print this

2033
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:07,250
information out and take it

2034
00:54:07,250 --> 00:54:08,280
with you on your trip.

2035
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:08,620
All right.

2036
00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:09,640
Now, so if they're coming to

2037
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,820
Carmel, they're probably going

2038
00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:11,820
to drive up to San Francisco

2039
00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:12,200
also.

2040
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,320
Can they actually get like a

2041
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,450
city map so they can figure out

2042
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:15,550
how to get to my house or stuff

2043
00:54:15,550 --> 00:54:16,180
like that?

2044
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,230
Great intonation by Stu on the

2045
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:20,360
words Carmel and city maps.

2046
00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:22,360
Listen to the way in which he

2047
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,570
offers a little boost on those

2048
00:54:24,570 --> 00:54:25,320
words.

2049
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:27,740
Really brings them out like...

2050
00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:28,600
This information out.

2051
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:29,380
Carmel.

2052
00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:30,420
Loud.

2053
00:54:30,420 --> 00:54:31,420
And then...

2054
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:32,620
And take it with you on your

2055
00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:33,020
trip.

2056
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:33,880
City maps.

2057
00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:34,120
All right.

2058
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,140
Now, so if they're coming to

2059
00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:36,540
Carmel, they're probably...

2060
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:36,940
Carmel.

2061
00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:39,020
And there's also a kind of...

2062
00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:40,220
He throws his body into it

2063
00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:40,740
there.

2064
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,040
He winds up and you can see it

2065
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,080
in the shoulders.

2066
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,660
Almost like a...

2067
00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:46,540
Again, like I've said before,

2068
00:54:46,540 --> 00:54:47,080
like a...

2069
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:47,860
Like a cobra.

2070
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,480
Striking on Carmel.

2071
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:52,560
And you can print this

2072
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,660
information out and take it

2073
00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:55,340
with you on your trip.

2074
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:55,700
All right.

2075
00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:56,710
Now, so if they're coming to

2076
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:57,870
Carmel, they're probably going

2077
00:54:57,870 --> 00:54:58,840
to drive up to San Francisco

2078
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,260
also.

2079
00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:00,390
Can they actually get like a

2080
00:55:00,390 --> 00:55:01,510
city map so they can figure out

2081
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:02,570
how to get to my house or stuff

2082
00:55:02,570 --> 00:55:03,240
like that?

2083
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,920
Sure they can.

2084
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,280
Let's go ahead and take a look

2085
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,360
at San Francisco.

2086
00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:09,720
And go down and select insect

2087
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:10,720
maps.

2088
00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:12,420
We have 240 insect maps.

2089
00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:13,180
Select insect maps.

2090
00:55:13,180 --> 00:55:15,760
We have detailed street level

2091
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,420
information for many of the

2092
00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:19,320
large cities in North America.

2093
00:55:20,420 --> 00:55:20,740
All right.

2094
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,260
Yeah, that's it.

2095
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:22,160
So they can really get...

2096
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,340
And you could even zoom in more

2097
00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:24,380
than that and actually see

2098
00:55:24,380 --> 00:55:24,900
streets.

2099
00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:26,060
You can see streets.

2100
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:26,820
You can print this out.

2101
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,840
And I can print that out too.

2102
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,120
Sure.

2103
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:28,720
All right.

2104
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:29,060
So...

2105
00:55:29,060 --> 00:55:30,880
And a bit of eye contact there

2106
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,100
and that ends the demonstration.

2107
00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:34,500
You can see streets.

2108
00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:34,780
That's great.

2109
00:55:34,780 --> 00:55:35,300
You can print this out.

2110
00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:36,300
And I can print that out too.

2111
00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:36,600
Sure.

2112
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,180
All right.

2113
00:55:37,180 --> 00:55:37,420
Lovely.

2114
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,500
So it's Trip Maker from Rand

2115
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:39,040
McNally.

2116
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:39,920
Thanks very much, Michael.

2117
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,220
Thank you, Stuart.

2118
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:40,820
All right.

2119
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:42,300
How do seniors become computer

2120
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:43,640
savvy in the first place?

2121
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:44,640
Well, they take classes.

2122
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:45,970
In fact, one of the most

2123
00:55:45,970 --> 00:55:47,710
popular courses at the Willows

2124
00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:49,240
Senior Center in San Jose,

2125
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:49,980
California

2126
00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:51,500
is the one on computers.

2127
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,490
The Willows Senior Center in

2128
00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:55,880
San Jose, California is a beehive

2129
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,870
of activity on almost any day

2130
00:55:57,870 --> 00:55:58,180
of

2131
00:55:58,180 --> 00:55:58,600
the week.

2132
00:55:59,140 --> 00:56:00,530
Young or old, there are clubs

2133
00:56:00,530 --> 00:56:02,550
and classes for every stripe,

2134
00:56:02,550 --> 00:56:04,420
from chess to sewing to line

2135
00:56:04,420 --> 00:56:04,800
dancing.

2136
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,140
The center also organizes trips

2137
00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:10,550
and excursions and offers

2138
00:56:10,550 --> 00:56:12,220
social and legal services.

2139
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,600
But some of the most popular

2140
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,190
classes by far are the computer

2141
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:16,700
classes, which are usually

2142
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:17,140
filled

2143
00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:17,860
to capacity.

2144
00:56:18,740 --> 00:56:19,250
Since they were introduced in

2145
00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:21,740
early 1990s, which are usually...

2146
00:56:21,740 --> 00:56:23,610
A high waist belt situation for

2147
00:56:23,610 --> 00:56:25,080
the Senior Net class.

2148
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,280
...filled to capacity.

2149
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:27,300
Since...

2150
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:28,380
...packed to capacity.

2151
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:30,820
And look at that CRT telly in

2152
00:56:30,820 --> 00:56:32,220
the corner.

2153
00:56:32,380 --> 00:56:33,340
It's fucking massive.

2154
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,580
Absolutely huge.

2155
00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:37,770
As they were introduced in

2156
00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:40,370
early 1994, the number of

2157
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:42,840
classes has quadrupled, and the

2158
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,140
Willows

2159
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:44,460
Center is now also a teaching

2160
00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:45,930
site for Senior Net, the online

2161
00:56:45,930 --> 00:56:47,540
group for computing seniors.

2162
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,900
We've had some students that

2163
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,240
when they first came into the

2164
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,400
class, they...

2165
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:51,820
Briscoe.

2166
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:53,360
You know, they really had no

2167
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,950
idea what a computer was and,

2168
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:56,690
you know, really kind of afraid

2169
00:56:56,690 --> 00:56:57,480
to...

2170
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,240
fool with a mouse.

2171
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:01,140
And now those same individuals

2172
00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:03,030
are helping coach and teaching

2173
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:04,480
some of the classes.

2174
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,850
So it's, you know, it's kind of

2175
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:07,340
surprising where, you know, you

2176
00:57:07,340 --> 00:57:08,470
see the development of the

2177
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:09,080
people.

2178
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,860
Some of their attitudes are

2179
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:11,760
changing.

2180
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,370
Students have different reasons

2181
00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:14,690
for attending the computer

2182
00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:15,300
classes.

2183
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:16,740
Some want to log on to make new

2184
00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:18,340
friends or to take advantage of

2185
00:57:18,340 --> 00:57:19,880
online resources that don't

2186
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,040
require leaving the house.

2187
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,020
Other senior students have loftier

2188
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:23,600
goals.

2189
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,870
I would like to find a part-time

2190
00:57:25,870 --> 00:57:27,720
job using a computer.

2191
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,780
I felt that I didn't have any

2192
00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:31,940
confidence in trying to even

2193
00:57:31,940 --> 00:57:32,720
try it.

2194
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,840
And after I came, I found out

2195
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,060
it wasn't that difficult.

2196
00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:38,310
I don't think there is a, um,

2197
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:41,300
an age limit with computers

2198
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:44,600
like there are on some jobs.

2199
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,550
I feel that you could either

2200
00:57:46,550 --> 00:57:48,510
work at home or work through

2201
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:50,640
agencies for people that need

2202
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,590
you to enter data for them,

2203
00:57:52,590 --> 00:57:54,280
that sort of thing.

2204
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,550
You know, there's the myth that

2205
00:57:55,550 --> 00:57:56,870
seniors can't change, but, you

2206
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:58,220
know, that's not the case.

2207
00:57:58,220 --> 00:57:59,280
It's, you know, it's been

2208
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,220
proven that...

2209
00:58:00,220 --> 00:58:02,260
It's been proven that seniors

2210
00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:03,280
can change.

2211
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,720
With the class...

2212
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,490
I wonder will he roll out the "you

2213
00:58:06,490 --> 00:58:07,880
can't teach an old dog new

2214
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,000
tricks" phrase?

2215
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,140
I don't think he will. We've

2216
00:58:10,140 --> 00:58:11,160
gone past it. It's gone too far.

2217
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,680
The classes that we offer here

2218
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,960
as well as other programs

2219
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,420
throughout the, you know,

2220
00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:17,130
throughout the nation that, you

2221
00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:18,830
know, seniors do learn and can,

2222
00:58:18,830 --> 00:58:20,840
you know, improve their lives.

2223
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,290
And so, you know, I think that's

2224
00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:23,390
one of the benefits of the

2225
00:58:23,390 --> 00:58:24,480
SeniorNet program.

2226
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,940
Whatever the goal, age should

2227
00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:27,110
not be a barrier to taking

2228
00:58:27,110 --> 00:58:28,450
those first halting steps at

2229
00:58:28,450 --> 00:58:29,980
learning something new, whether

2230
00:58:29,980 --> 00:58:30,780
it's moving your feet...

2231
00:58:30,780 --> 00:58:31,480
Great shots.

2232
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,040
...or moving the cursor.

2233
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,610
For the Computer Chronicles, I'm

2234
00:58:34,610 --> 00:58:35,480
Giles Bateman.

2235
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:45,160
...or moving the cursor.

2236
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,160
...or moving the cursor.

2237
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,160
...or moving the cursor.

2238
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,160
...or moving the cursor.

2239
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,370
Well, when you're young, you

2240
00:58:52,370 --> 00:58:53,630
think you'll live forever, but

2241
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:55,160
when those aches and pains...

2242
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,220
You do, and that's the fucking

2243
00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:57,160
shit thing, you know?

2244
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,350
...when you start to realize

2245
00:59:00,350 --> 00:59:02,840
that you're going to die.

2246
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,840
Do you know? Yeah, it happens.

2247
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,660
It happens. It might not have

2248
00:59:06,660 --> 00:59:08,390
happened to you yet, but you

2249
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:09,960
will. It will come to you at

2250
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,840
some stage.

2251
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,300
So just enjoy it. Enjoy it

2252
00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:16,520
before the recreation happens.

2253
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,080
Well, when you're young, you

2254
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,700
think you'll live forever, but

2255
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:21,020
when those aches and pains

2256
00:59:21,020 --> 00:59:22,760
start creeping in, you know it's

2257
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,520
time to think about the future.

2258
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,660
But the future is, of course,

2259
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,670
that there is inevitably not

2260
00:59:30,670 --> 00:59:33,440
going to be any future at some

2261
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,520
point.

2262
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,230
...or moving the cursor. It's

2263
00:59:37,230 --> 00:59:40,200
Alvin Wilmaker.

2264
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,590
...or moving the cursor. It's

2265
00:59:42,590 --> 00:59:44,200
Alvin Wilmaker.

2266
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,850
...or moving the cursor. It's

2267
00:59:46,850 --> 00:59:48,200
Alvin Wilmaker.

2268
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,850
...or moving the cursor. It's

2269
00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:52,200
Alvin Wilmaker.

2270
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,850
...or moving the cursor. It's

2271
00:59:54,850 --> 00:59:56,200
Alvin Wilmaker.

2272
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,850
...or moving the cursor. It's

2273
00:59:58,850 --> 01:00:00,200
Alvin Wilmaker.

2274
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,200
...or moving the cursor. It's

2275
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,200
Alvin Wilmaker.

2276
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:10,250
Alvin Stardust. Alvin and the

2277
01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:13,880
Chipmunks.

2278
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,160
First of all, what are the...

2279
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,170
There are actually more than

2280
01:00:16,170 --> 01:00:17,450
just a will you can do with Wilmaker,

2281
01:00:17,450 --> 01:00:17,880
right?

2282
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,090
Yeah, Wilmaker makes three

2283
01:00:19,090 --> 01:00:20,200
different documents. A will,

2284
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,420
healthcare directions, also

2285
01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:22,480
known as a living will, and

2286
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,880
also a document called...

2287
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,790
...the documents, a will...

2288
01:00:25,790 --> 01:00:27,240
Sorry, his name was Alan Renauer

2289
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,880
from NOLO.

2290
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,220
...a healthcare directions,

2291
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:30,220
also known as a living will,

2292
01:00:30,220 --> 01:00:31,170
and also a document called

2293
01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:32,260
Final Arrangements, where you

2294
01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:33,350
set out whatever arrangements

2295
01:00:33,350 --> 01:00:34,430
you've made for your funeral or

2296
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:35,560
cremation or whatever.

2297
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,570
Right. All right, let's focus

2298
01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:37,560
on making the will right now.

2299
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,820
And suppose I'm just starting

2300
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:39,560
from scratch.

2301
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,360
...I've decided, yeah, I should

2302
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,660
start thinking about making a

2303
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:44,040
will. How do I use the software

2304
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,240
to begin that process?

2305
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,060
Well, you get it out of the box,

2306
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:48,180
install it, and you get

2307
01:00:48,180 --> 01:00:49,970
oriented here. And the first

2308
01:00:49,970 --> 01:00:51,240
thing you do...

2309
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,470
...is you create a new

2310
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:54,500
portfolio. Okay, so... So let's

2311
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,190
click there, and we'll enter

2312
01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:56,920
our name. Okay.

2313
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,920
Okay. Joe Smith.

2314
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,430
So it's really a dialogue, a

2315
01:01:00,430 --> 01:01:01,630
series of questions that the

2316
01:01:01,630 --> 01:01:02,920
software will ask you.

2317
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,920
You can't do this in Ireland.

2318
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,090
You're saying that you have to

2319
01:01:06,090 --> 01:01:07,780
go to a solicitor. You mean you

2320
01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:10,000
can't even just fucking do your

2321
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,410
own will? Is that it? You have

2322
01:01:13,410 --> 01:01:15,440
to have someone who is legally

2323
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,920
able to fucking sign it up.

2324
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,560
I mean, I'd say this is just

2325
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,440
like preparatory stuff before

2326
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,640
you even go... I'd say even in

2327
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,050
the States, because they're litigious

2328
01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:27,580
as fuck, so... I'd say this is

2329
01:01:27,580 --> 01:01:30,150
just... At least you can get a

2330
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:32,660
template and a frame around. I

2331
01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:34,400
doubt this is a legally binding

2332
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,510
document on no law... That no

2333
01:01:36,510 --> 01:01:38,290
law software have provided.

2334
01:01:38,290 --> 01:01:40,000
They would definitely have some

2335
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600
sort of disclaimer, like by the...

2336
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,190
Not a legal will. I did have

2337
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:47,300
some sort of small print there.

2338
01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:49,110
By the way, you need to go and

2339
01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:51,400
see a fucking lawyer about this.

2340
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,580
Final underscore arrangements

2341
01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:56,940
dot doc x.

2342
01:01:56,940 --> 01:01:59,160
You want to create. Okay, so we're

2343
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,760
working on the will. Each one

2344
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,240
of these is a...

2345
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,380
Well, if I just left a fucking

2346
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:06,530
scrap of paper behind you with,

2347
01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:08,340
like, I want x and y and z to

2348
01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:10,980
happen. I mean, if you wrote it,

2349
01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:13,440
then that's that, isn't it? Or

2350
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,780
would your forebears or

2351
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:17,960
whatever you call them, would

2352
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,630
they have to then prove in a

2353
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:22,800
court that that was from you?

2354
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,610
And it starts you out. To be

2355
01:02:25,610 --> 01:02:27,970
fair, it doesn't take long to

2356
01:02:27,970 --> 01:02:30,720
do a will. Says Parastroika.

2357
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,980
Any decent solicitor can do it

2358
01:02:32,980 --> 01:02:36,340
in 50 minutes. Great Parastroika.

2359
01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:38,240
How you helped us through

2360
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,950
Fallout New Vegas. And now you're

2361
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:43,110
here to help us with a new open

2362
01:02:43,110 --> 01:02:45,860
world RPG adventure. The RPG

2363
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:48,620
adventure of death and will

2364
01:02:48,620 --> 01:02:49,500
making.

2365
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:51,500
Always orients you to the task

2366
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:53,500
you're about to do. And then

2367
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:55,420
gets you into the actual meat

2368
01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:56,940
of the issue, which is

2369
01:02:56,940 --> 01:02:59,340
answering the questions. Starts

2370
01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:01,100
out with your name. Some

2371
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:03,260
questions are optional here.

2372
01:03:03,260 --> 01:03:05,250
And it does work in all states

2373
01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:06,720
except Louisiana.

2374
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,040
So it's smart enough to know.

2375
01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:09,840
Louisiana's got done dirty

2376
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,560
there by NOLO software. Unless

2377
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,120
they have some sort of fucking

2378
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,780
weird laws there where you can't

2379
01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:19,340
do it. Arizona. Alaska. Alabama.

2380
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,490
Know that the laws might be

2381
01:03:20,490 --> 01:03:21,890
different in my state compared

2382
01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:23,300
to some other state. There's a

2383
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:23,970
few things that might be

2384
01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:25,350
different. All right, let's go

2385
01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:26,670
to one you've already started

2386
01:03:26,670 --> 01:03:27,930
so we can get to the more meaty

2387
01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:29,180
parts of the software.

2388
01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:30,760
The meaty will. The meaty will.

2389
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,690
The portfolio of Ezra Jones

2390
01:03:31,690 --> 01:03:33,670
here. And he's already

2391
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:35,640
completed his will. So he

2392
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,650
enters the will review. He goes

2393
01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:39,350
straight to the review screen

2394
01:03:39,350 --> 01:03:39,920
here.

2395
01:03:39,940 --> 01:03:40,680
So it's easy to go back and

2396
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,660
change things once you've made

2397
01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:42,790
your will. Absolutely. That's

2398
01:03:42,790 --> 01:03:43,650
one of the best things about

2399
01:03:43,650 --> 01:03:44,100
will.

2400
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:46,060
What about the law of the sea?

2401
01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:48,400
Says HMBS. I don't know what

2402
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,850
the situation there is. I don't

2403
01:03:50,850 --> 01:03:52,840
really you don't hear much

2404
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,620
about sea burials.

2405
01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:57,360
The only one I know of is Bin

2406
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,390
Laden. And even that. I mean,

2407
01:03:59,390 --> 01:04:01,100
where's the evidence that that

2408
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,110
even happened? You know, I've

2409
01:04:03,110 --> 01:04:04,690
speculated before in the past

2410
01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:06,490
that I still believe maybe they've

2411
01:04:06,490 --> 01:04:07,240
got him.

2412
01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:09,400
Inside one of those like tanks,

2413
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,410
like his body is just floating

2414
01:04:11,410 --> 01:04:13,570
in a tank and they've got wires

2415
01:04:13,570 --> 01:04:15,500
in him, you know, keeping him

2416
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:17,660
perpetually alive for some sort

2417
01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:19,670
of future situation that they

2418
01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:21,780
might want to use him for.

2419
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,880
Thank you very much, sir. Tres

2420
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,440
of Manion.

2421
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,070
You can change your mind and

2422
01:04:26,070 --> 01:04:27,830
change things whenever you want

2423
01:04:27,830 --> 01:04:28,240
to.

2424
01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:29,450
Here's some of the things you

2425
01:04:29,450 --> 01:04:30,550
do in your will. If you go

2426
01:04:30,550 --> 01:04:31,880
through the whole interview,

2427
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:32,950
you'll cover all of these

2428
01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:33,560
topics.

2429
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,390
And specific requests is one of

2430
01:04:35,390 --> 01:04:36,930
the things people most want to

2431
01:04:36,930 --> 01:04:38,610
do is decide specifically who

2432
01:04:38,610 --> 01:04:39,160
gets.

2433
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,260
Give specific things to

2434
01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:41,220
specific people.

2435
01:04:41,780 --> 01:04:42,820
Specific bequests.

2436
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,620
People, certain sentimental

2437
01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:46,660
things sometimes. So in this

2438
01:04:46,660 --> 01:04:49,080
case, Ezra Jones has decided.

2439
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,320
Danny is a beneficiary.

2440
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,940
Danny is, say, his nephew and

2441
01:04:51,940 --> 01:04:53,180
he wants Danny to get his

2442
01:04:53,180 --> 01:04:55,070
famous baseball card collection,

2443
01:04:55,070 --> 01:04:56,620
which also happens to be quite

2444
01:04:56,620 --> 01:04:58,130
valuable because it has Babe

2445
01:04:58,130 --> 01:05:00,240
Ruth's rookie card or something.

2446
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,530
Babe Ruth's rookie card in that

2447
01:05:02,530 --> 01:05:03,740
collection.

2448
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,000
Alternates for Danny in case

2449
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,380
Danny doesn't survive you.

2450
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:07,360
All right.

2451
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,120
So that's.

2452
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,500
In case Danny doesn't survive

2453
01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:11,040
you.

2454
01:05:11,580 --> 01:05:12,020
All right.

2455
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:14,820
It's like he's taking stews.

2456
01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:15,520
All right.

2457
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,280
All right.

2458
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,820
Stew's usually the all right

2459
01:05:17,820 --> 01:05:18,240
man.

2460
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:19,920
But your man here, George or

2461
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,740
whatever his name is, has just

2462
01:05:21,740 --> 01:05:23,000
slipped in a stew.

2463
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:24,560
Trademark.

2464
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:25,200
All right.

2465
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,360
You get to name alternates for

2466
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,690
Danny in case Danny doesn't

2467
01:05:28,690 --> 01:05:29,300
survive you.

2468
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:30,260
All right.

2469
01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:31,420
So that's an example of how you

2470
01:05:31,420 --> 01:05:32,560
make specific requests.

2471
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,110
Another important thing to do

2472
01:05:34,110 --> 01:05:35,590
in a will is to set up property

2473
01:05:35,590 --> 01:05:36,600
management for any

2474
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,070
beneficiaries who might be

2475
01:05:38,070 --> 01:05:39,480
young when they receive the

2476
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:40,280
property.

2477
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,390
So let's say this baseball card

2478
01:05:41,390 --> 01:05:42,920
collection is worth $10,000.

2479
01:05:43,420 --> 01:05:44,800
You don't want Danny squandering

2480
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,040
it for bubble gum.

2481
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,510
So here we can set up property

2482
01:05:48,510 --> 01:05:50,680
management for Danny Jones and

2483
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,320
will maker offers you two

2484
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,080
different property management

2485
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:54,940
options.

2486
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,430
Here's an example where you

2487
01:05:56,430 --> 01:05:57,840
might want to use the online

2488
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,620
legal help to to have these.

2489
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:00,280
It's getting boring.

2490
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,330
I'm telling you something about

2491
01:06:01,330 --> 01:06:01,640
this.

2492
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:02,680
You can't do jumps in.

2493
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:03,540
You could tell it was getting

2494
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:03,900
boring.

2495
01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:06,330
Stu just immediately senses the

2496
01:06:06,330 --> 01:06:08,630
lull and just usurps them, cut

2497
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:11,040
them off and hustles and harries

2498
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,740
them.

2499
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,550
Legal help to to have these

2500
01:06:13,550 --> 01:06:14,340
options.

2501
01:06:14,540 --> 01:06:15,630
So it's telling me something

2502
01:06:15,630 --> 01:06:16,860
about this uniform transfers to

2503
01:06:16,860 --> 01:06:18,010
minors act, which I don't know

2504
01:06:18,010 --> 01:06:18,860
anything about.

2505
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:19,500
What's that?

2506
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,520
And I can look it up.

2507
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,310
And you're being asked to

2508
01:06:21,310 --> 01:06:22,160
choose between the two.

2509
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,570
So we give you a choice between

2510
01:06:23,570 --> 01:06:25,050
you can give you an explanation

2511
01:06:25,050 --> 01:06:25,620
of that.

2512
01:06:25,860 --> 01:06:26,670
Plus, we refer you to our

2513
01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:28,210
extensive legal manual, exactly

2514
01:06:28,210 --> 01:06:29,470
what chapter and section where

2515
01:06:29,470 --> 01:06:30,780
you can find information about

2516
01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:31,260
that.

2517
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:31,540
All right.

2518
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:32,870
So when I'm all done, I can

2519
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:34,360
just actually click print,

2520
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,960
basically, and it prints out a

2521
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,060
legal real will.

2522
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:37,760
Absolutely.

2523
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:38,840
When you're all done, you click

2524
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:39,500
display print.

2525
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:40,850
It takes a few seconds to

2526
01:06:40,850 --> 01:06:42,700
assemble, and here you are.

2527
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:44,550
And it also produces important

2528
01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:45,940
instructions on how to sign

2529
01:06:45,940 --> 01:06:46,660
your will.

2530
01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:46,840
Yeah.

2531
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,810
What about witnesses and how

2532
01:06:47,810 --> 01:06:48,880
you're supposed to sign it?

2533
01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:49,880
That tells you all of that, too.

2534
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,100
The instruction page does that.

2535
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,380
And at the bottom of every page,

2536
01:06:52,380 --> 01:06:53,400
there's a place for you and

2537
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,820
your witnesses to initial it.

2538
01:06:54,860 --> 01:06:55,480
Last question.

2539
01:06:55,580 --> 01:06:57,010
Is this really as good, as

2540
01:06:57,010 --> 01:06:58,660
legal, as valid as spending a

2541
01:06:58,660 --> 01:07:00,540
lot of money going to a lawyer?

2542
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,040
For most people, a will is a

2543
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,500
very simple document.

2544
01:07:03,740 --> 01:07:04,480
And if you can do your taxes on

2545
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,610
a computer, you can definitely

2546
01:07:05,610 --> 01:07:06,740
do your will on a computer.

2547
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:07,140
All right.

2548
01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:08,020
Thanks very much, Albin.

2549
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:08,820
All right.

2550
01:07:08,820 --> 01:07:10,720
As we saw earlier at the Willows

2551
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,080
Senior Center in San Jose,

2552
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,810
SeniorNet has become one of the

2553
01:07:13,810 --> 01:07:15,430
most popular cyber sites for

2554
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:16,720
senior citizens.

2555
01:07:17,260 --> 01:07:18,710
Next, we're going to look at

2556
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:20,310
two retired people whose lives

2557
01:07:20,310 --> 01:07:21,870
have really changed thanks to

2558
01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:22,680
SeniorNet.

2559
01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:24,440
We're getting a VT package.

2560
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:26,670
I'm not sure whether or not we're

2561
01:07:26,670 --> 01:07:28,390
going back to the Willows

2562
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:31,120
Center, but it's exciting stuff.

2563
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:33,160
Dr. Bin Budai is a retired

2564
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,330
physician who loves to collect

2565
01:07:35,330 --> 01:07:36,080
books.

2566
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,720
He is also an accomplished poet

2567
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:38,440
and writer.

2568
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:39,930
When he retired, he decided to

2569
01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:41,370
learn about computers so as to

2570
01:07:41,370 --> 01:07:43,080
catalog his book collection.

2571
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:44,450
He has yet to do that, but in

2572
01:07:44,450 --> 01:07:45,980
the meantime, he has become an

2573
01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:47,280
accomplished PC user.

2574
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,120
He writes and prints his poems

2575
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,620
on the PC and is a member of

2576
01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:52,240
SeniorNet, which he uses to

2577
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,630
keep in touch with the outside

2578
01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:55,400
world from the comfort of...

2579
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,750
Is his first name Bin or Bin Bu

2580
01:07:58,750 --> 01:08:01,840
and surname Dai or is it Bin

2581
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,660
Budai, like Buddha?

2582
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,560
You're going choppy.

2583
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:08,480
I'm not sure.

2584
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,800
Look, the storm might be

2585
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,330
affecting it, but I think I'm

2586
01:08:11,330 --> 01:08:12,680
fine on this end here.

2587
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,240
Anyways, it might be your end.

2588
01:08:15,340 --> 01:08:15,960
I'm not sure.

2589
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,020
...of his armchair.

2590
01:08:17,740 --> 01:08:19,040
You know, as we get older, we

2591
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,340
become limited.

2592
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,900
You know, our knees talk back

2593
01:08:22,900 --> 01:08:23,660
to us.

2594
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,740
We lose our hearing.

2595
01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:28,560
Our vision gets dim.

2596
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,090
The color in our hair goes down

2597
01:08:31,090 --> 01:08:32,260
the drain.

2598
01:08:32,860 --> 01:08:34,100
So it's harder to get out, to

2599
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:36,070
go to movies, plays, movies,

2600
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:37,400
things like that.

2601
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,940
But with the computer, telecommunication,

2602
01:08:40,940 --> 01:08:43,100
the world can come to you.

2603
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,620
Dr. Budai has other interests

2604
01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:46,210
besides SeniorNet, and he has

2605
01:08:46,210 --> 01:08:47,490
learned to enjoy the free time

2606
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:48,880
that retirement offers.

2607
01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:50,810
He logs on to SeniorNet and

2608
01:08:50,810 --> 01:08:52,530
visits conferences, checks for

2609
01:08:52,530 --> 01:08:53,940
messages, and sends poems

2610
01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:55,200
across cyberspace.

2611
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,800
But he realizes that it's not

2612
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,430
always easy to introduce new

2613
01:08:58,430 --> 01:09:00,460
technology to retired seniors.

2614
01:09:00,980 --> 01:09:03,050
People who, during their

2615
01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:06,220
lifetime, have been able to see

2616
01:09:06,220 --> 01:09:09,040
new things and accept it will

2617
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,500
be able to accept the computer.

2618
01:09:12,940 --> 01:09:15,010
People who have been very constricted

2619
01:09:15,010 --> 01:09:16,450
in their life will never be

2620
01:09:16,450 --> 01:09:18,060
able to take the computer.

2621
01:09:18,580 --> 01:09:19,850
Before they retired, Jenny and

2622
01:09:19,850 --> 01:09:21,040
Hans Colmar worked as

2623
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,700
theatrical press agents.

2624
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:23,920
They have boxes filled with

2625
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,340
signed photos of the best-known

2626
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:26,730
entertainers of the golden age

2627
01:09:26,730 --> 01:09:27,600
of Hollywood.

2628
01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:29,420
Their press releases were pasted

2629
01:09:29,420 --> 01:09:31,100
up from typed and retyped pages

2630
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,380
without the help of word

2631
01:09:32,380 --> 01:09:33,340
processing.

2632
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,030
When Jenny Colmar was a

2633
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:36,580
teenager, she began a list of

2634
01:09:36,580 --> 01:09:38,460
things she wanted to accomplish,

2635
01:09:38,460 --> 01:09:39,890
and learning a PC became one of

2636
01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:40,480
them.

2637
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:41,660
Wait till you see her typing

2638
01:09:41,660 --> 01:09:43,020
speed here. It looks fucking

2639
01:09:43,020 --> 01:09:43,660
electric.

2640
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:45,760
Hunter Hearst Helmsley. Thank

2641
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,260
you very much there.

2642
01:09:47,980 --> 01:09:48,960
I was always too busy to learn

2643
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,780
to compute, and it was kind of

2644
01:09:50,780 --> 01:09:52,350
on the agenda of things to do

2645
01:09:52,350 --> 01:09:53,420
before I die.

2646
01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:54,920
You know, I've seen the strip

2647
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:55,380
show.

2648
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,260
Huh? What kind of show is that?

2649
01:09:58,260 --> 01:10:00,320
Like, one on the Las Vegas

2650
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:01,180
strip?

2651
01:10:01,780 --> 01:10:03,410
That was on my list. I threw

2652
01:10:03,410 --> 01:10:04,680
away learning to fly.

2653
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,180
I decided I didn't really have

2654
01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:07,680
to do that before I died, but I

2655
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:08,680
had a whole list.

2656
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,460
I don't think I'd be arse going

2657
01:10:10,460 --> 01:10:12,350
to see strippers if I'd reached

2658
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:13,740
that stage of life.

2659
01:10:14,060 --> 01:10:15,560
You know, and I'm not even arse

2660
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,520
now, but I mean, once it got to,

2661
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,200
like, the final endgame,

2662
01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:20,610
where I was thinking, you know,

2663
01:10:20,610 --> 01:10:21,560
what do I need to do here

2664
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,940
before I fucking check out?

2665
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,080
I'm not sure. Maybe you change.

2666
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,100
Maybe your preferences change,

2667
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:31,440
and things just become...

2668
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:32,800
A little bit more appealing.

2669
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,550
The age of 18, they kept

2670
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:36,080
growing as I grew older, and

2671
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,070
the last 10 years or so, it was

2672
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:39,940
learn how to use a computer.

2673
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,470
It took Jenny six months to get

2674
01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:43,200
online, but once she understood

2675
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,680
the basics of computer input

2676
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,500
and output,

2677
01:10:45,500 --> 01:10:47,020
she was hooked, and is now a

2678
01:10:47,020 --> 01:10:48,760
regular user of SeniorNet.

2679
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:50,390
But Jenny soon learned that it

2680
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:51,880
was just as easy to become an

2681
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,920
online addict.

2682
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,390
It really is a siren song. You

2683
01:10:55,390 --> 01:10:57,130
can be lured into all this to

2684
01:10:57,130 --> 01:10:58,680
the exclusion of all else,

2685
01:10:58,820 --> 01:11:00,160
and I think that's one of the

2686
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,880
dangers. I'm always preaching

2687
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,120
to these people online,

2688
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,720
not to get a life, but to honor

2689
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,540
the life you have already and

2690
01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:10,960
add to it with being online.

2691
01:11:11,340 --> 01:11:12,720
For the Computer Chronicles, I'm

2692
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,600
Giles Bateman.

2693
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,670
Not even looking at the fucking

2694
01:11:16,670 --> 01:11:19,340
thing. Just going with the flow.

2695
01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:27,540
Fuck!

2696
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:31,400
Are those boots?

2697
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,100
Like, white boots.

2698
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:36,830
They're actually shoes. It's

2699
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:38,020
just the way that's pointed.

2700
01:11:38,180 --> 01:11:39,880
It looked kind of stiletto-esque,

2701
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,880
or shoes, like lady shoe pointy.

2702
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,750
There's something special about

2703
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:49,070
a three- or four-generation

2704
01:11:49,070 --> 01:11:50,360
family.

2705
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:51,750
You have a sense of continuity

2706
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:52,820
and family history and

2707
01:11:52,820 --> 01:11:53,540
tradition.

2708
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,470
And one way to really focus on

2709
01:11:55,470 --> 01:11:57,140
your family roots is with a

2710
01:11:57,140 --> 01:11:58,530
program like Family Tree Maker

2711
01:11:58,530 --> 01:11:59,500
from Banner Blue,

2712
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:00,640
and Claire is here to show that

2713
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,000
to us.

2714
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,130
All right, we've got Family

2715
01:12:02,130 --> 01:12:03,080
Tree Maker running.

2716
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,540
Show me how I would start to

2717
01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:05,900
build a family tree.

2718
01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:06,960
You've got somebody up here

2719
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,110
named Ken right now, and he's

2720
01:12:08,110 --> 01:12:09,320
the person who's starting?

2721
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,040
Right. When you make your

2722
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,330
family tree, you're going to go

2723
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:13,600
in and put information on your

2724
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:14,280
relatives.

2725
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,460
Their name, when they were born,

2726
01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:18,560
where they were born, if they've

2727
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,380
died, when, and where.

2728
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,550
So you start with text and

2729
01:12:21,550 --> 01:12:23,060
stuff you know, basically.

2730
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:23,360
Right.

2731
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,550
That's an interesting audio cut.

2732
01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:26,700
I was in an edit.

2733
01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:28,060
If they've died, when, and

2734
01:12:28,060 --> 01:12:28,540
where.

2735
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:29,960
So you start with text.

2736
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,400
Because I don't think he says

2737
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,200
that, look.

2738
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:32,960
It's just an edit.

2739
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:33,320
Where they were born.

2740
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:34,900
He doesn't say, so you start

2741
01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:36,380
with, he starts to speak.

2742
01:12:36,540 --> 01:12:37,130
He seems to know his way around

2743
01:12:37,130 --> 01:12:37,520
the block.

2744
01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:38,860
How about you?

2745
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:39,560
How about you?

2746
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,030
Thank you very much there,

2747
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:42,240
Blackboard Jungle.

2748
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:43,260
He seems to know his way.

2749
01:12:43,700 --> 01:12:45,060
The new Indiana Jones game is

2750
01:12:45,060 --> 01:12:45,620
good.

2751
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,400
You say, I might try that out.

2752
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:49,300
We all, everybody loves Indiana

2753
01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:50,640
Jones, don't they?

2754
01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:51,880
Harrison Ford.

2755
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,220
And all the other characters

2756
01:12:54,220 --> 01:12:56,200
from that franchise.

2757
01:12:57,700 --> 01:12:59,070
Just Harrison Ford is on a

2758
01:12:59,070 --> 01:12:59,960
short round.

2759
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:01,440
Willie.

2760
01:13:01,860 --> 01:13:03,020
Who's actually a woman.

2761
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,840
Sean Connery, his dad.

2762
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,880
The Great Callie, the fella in

2763
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,100
the Temple of Doom.

2764
01:13:14,420 --> 01:13:16,440
Who's like, he'd pull out your

2765
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:17,180
heart.

2766
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:19,120
Can't remember his name.

2767
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,840
On your relatives.

2768
01:13:22,460 --> 01:13:23,720
Their name, when they were born,

2769
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,060
where they were born.

2770
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,780
But watch this little edit here.

2771
01:13:27,340 --> 01:13:28,800
Stu starts to speak.

2772
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,460
But they've cut in another take.

2773
01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:34,670
Or maybe something from a few

2774
01:13:34,670 --> 01:13:35,800
moments down the line.

2775
01:13:37,140 --> 01:13:39,300
And who could forget?

2776
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:40,740
Pancat Palace.

2777
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,740
Indeed, Tupo.

2778
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:42,700
Pancat Palace.

2779
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:43,740
Pancat Palace.

2780
01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:44,500
Pancat.

2781
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,000
Pancat.

2782
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:45,820
Pancat Palace.

2783
01:13:46,180 --> 01:13:47,550
Pancat Palace from Indiana

2784
01:13:47,550 --> 01:13:48,200
Jones.

2785
01:13:48,540 --> 01:13:49,600
Pancat Palace from Indiana

2786
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,120
Jones.

2787
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,670
If I have that sound, I will

2788
01:13:51,670 --> 01:13:52,280
play it.

2789
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,260
I just don't have it with me

2790
01:13:53,260 --> 01:13:53,560
now.

2791
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,860
When, when, and where.

2792
01:13:54,860 --> 01:13:56,210
So you start with text and

2793
01:13:56,210 --> 01:13:57,140
stuff you know,

2794
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:57,540
basically.

2795
01:13:57,540 --> 01:13:57,860
Right.

2796
01:13:57,860 --> 01:13:58,920
So what are we looking at?

2797
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,240
So we're looking at here.

2798
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,660
This is one generation.

2799
01:14:01,660 --> 01:14:02,860
The husband and wife and their

2800
01:14:02,860 --> 01:14:03,320
daughter.

2801
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:04,730
And if you want to look at, for

2802
01:14:04,730 --> 01:14:06,330
instance, his parents, we just

2803
01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:07,660
click on the side tabs.

2804
01:14:07,660 --> 01:14:08,940
And go and here's all the

2805
01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:10,660
information on his parents.

2806
01:14:10,660 --> 01:14:12,160
And then these are his siblings

2807
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,660
down here and the children.

2808
01:14:13,660 --> 01:14:14,660
And then these are the children.

2809
01:14:14,660 --> 01:14:16,270
So each of those tabs we would

2810
01:14:16,270 --> 01:14:17,950
create again to represent me

2811
01:14:17,950 --> 01:14:19,500
and my wife and my kids and my

2812
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:20,120
brothers and so on.

2813
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,290
Exactly. And then in addition

2814
01:14:22,290 --> 01:14:23,830
to just the names and dates,

2815
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:25,490
you can also put in facts like

2816
01:14:25,490 --> 01:14:27,660
education or occupation. Address

2817
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:29,660
information if you want to make

2818
01:14:29,660 --> 01:14:31,500
labels for holiday cards.

2819
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,790
Medical information. So you can

2820
01:14:33,790 --> 01:14:35,640
put all kinds of tidbits about

2821
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,000
a person's life.

2822
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,420
All right. Now besides the text,

2823
01:14:38,420 --> 01:14:39,720
you can actually put multimedia

2824
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:40,860
elements in there too, like

2825
01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:42,140
pictures and even video clips,

2826
01:14:42,140 --> 01:14:43,850
right? Right. This is one of

2827
01:14:43,850 --> 01:14:45,260
the exciting features, the

2828
01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:46,960
multimedia scrapbook. Because

2829
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,210
there's a lot more to your

2830
01:14:48,210 --> 01:14:49,770
history than just the names and

2831
01:14:49,770 --> 01:14:50,340
dates.

2832
01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:52,540
So I could take a camcorder

2833
01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:54,940
clip if I have a video capture

2834
01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:57,340
board in my PC and just plug it

2835
01:14:57,340 --> 01:14:59,800
in and transfer that video to

2836
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,240
my heart drive and make it part

2837
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,690
of this file. Right. Exactly.

2838
01:15:05,690 --> 01:15:07,970
That is really cool. Or the

2839
01:15:07,970 --> 01:15:09,210
others are still photos or are

2840
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:10,550
they video clips also? These

2841
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:11,850
others are photos. And you can

2842
01:15:11,850 --> 01:15:13,170
put photos in using either a

2843
01:15:13,170 --> 01:15:14,480
photo CD or you can scan them

2844
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:15,730
and put them in as a graphic

2845
01:15:15,730 --> 01:15:17,600
file. All right. Claire, one of

2846
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,870
the amazing things about the

2847
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:20,320
software is you can actually go

2848
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,150
go back and find ancestors you

2849
01:15:22,150 --> 01:15:24,130
may not know even existed. And

2850
01:15:24,130 --> 01:15:25,770
we sort of set that up to do it

2851
01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:27,680
in my case. How are you going

2852
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,440
to find that with just software

2853
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,290
on a fucking CD-ROM? Like you'd

2854
01:15:31,290 --> 01:15:32,980
need the power of the internet

2855
01:15:32,980 --> 01:15:34,590
and like all the new DNA stuff

2856
01:15:34,590 --> 01:15:36,400
that people sign up to. How are

2857
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,100
you going to find a distant

2858
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:39,020
relative?

2859
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:40,750
You may not know even existed.

2860
01:15:40,750 --> 01:15:42,170
And we sort of set that up to

2861
01:15:42,170 --> 01:15:43,910
do it in my case, for example.

2862
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:45,310
So show me how you would do

2863
01:15:45,310 --> 01:15:46,550
that. I want to go find

2864
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:48,380
information about my father, my

2865
01:15:48,380 --> 01:15:49,800
grandfather, etc.

2866
01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:51,890
Right. What we do, this is

2867
01:15:51,890 --> 01:15:53,810
called the Family Finder Index.

2868
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:55,710
It's an index of 115 million

2869
01:15:55,710 --> 01:15:57,460
individuals and it references

2870
01:15:57,460 --> 01:15:59,350
everything from social security

2871
01:15:59,350 --> 01:16:00,780
records to death to land

2872
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:02,890
records. So here we've entered

2873
01:16:02,890 --> 01:16:04,690
in the name Shafay and we came

2874
01:16:04,690 --> 01:16:06,590
up with David and Paul. Which

2875
01:16:06,590 --> 01:16:07,780
is my father and grandfather.

2876
01:16:07,780 --> 01:16:08,400
That is your father and

2877
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:08,920
grandfather.

2878
01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:11,800
Please insert archive number

2879
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,400
110 volume 1 or archive 111

2880
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,180
into your CD-ROM.

2881
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:18,430
Okay, so what do we do after we

2882
01:16:18,430 --> 01:16:19,140
find the name?

2883
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,450
So once you find the names,

2884
01:16:20,450 --> 01:16:21,690
then you can get the CD that

2885
01:16:21,690 --> 01:16:23,360
contains the right records.

2886
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,120
It's the index.

2887
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:25,520
Where is she pulling these out

2888
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:25,800
of?

2889
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,040
Is that a laptop that opens up?

2890
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:30,630
Oh, that's where you have to

2891
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:31,140
hand.

2892
01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:32,820
There's no like a disc tray

2893
01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:34,060
that comes out.

2894
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,700
You have to open up the fucking

2895
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:37,360
keyboard and then place the CD

2896
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,360
in like it was a PlayStation 1.

2897
01:16:40,820 --> 01:16:41,540
I think.

2898
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:42,720
I think that's what's happened.

2899
01:16:43,820 --> 01:16:45,180
It's my father and grandfather.

2900
01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:45,810
It's your father and

2901
01:16:45,810 --> 01:16:46,380
grandfather.

2902
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,290
Okay, so what do we do after we

2903
01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:49,060
find the names?

2904
01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:50,370
So once you find the names,

2905
01:16:50,370 --> 01:16:51,620
then you can get the CD that

2906
01:16:51,620 --> 01:16:53,240
contains the right records.

2907
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,680
So it's the index that's on

2908
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,160
that CD and then I pull.

2909
01:16:56,500 --> 01:16:57,310
Now where are these records

2910
01:16:57,310 --> 01:16:58,020
coming from?

2911
01:16:58,420 --> 01:16:59,540
These records, this particular

2912
01:16:59,540 --> 01:17:00,890
one we're looking at is social

2913
01:17:00,890 --> 01:17:02,640
security death benefits records.

2914
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,070
We also have census records

2915
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:05,500
from the 1800s.

2916
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,010
We have land records, marriage

2917
01:17:07,010 --> 01:17:07,620
records.

2918
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,480
So you use the index to tell

2919
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,030
you which records have

2920
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:12,260
information.

2921
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,410
I can hear a noise going on in

2922
01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:14,260
the background.

2923
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,070
It might be the noise of the

2924
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:17,990
hardware, but it sounds like

2925
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:18,840
someone.

2926
01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:21,400
Because we we heard the grainy

2927
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,160
audio there of the footage of

2928
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:24,960
the baby.

2929
01:17:25,060 --> 01:17:26,060
It sounds this one sounds like

2930
01:17:26,060 --> 01:17:26,760
someone going.

2931
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:31,760
Listen there.

2932
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,740
I don't know if you can hear it.

2933
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:34,960
So you use the index to tell

2934
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,280
you which records have.

2935
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:43,260
Unless they left a fucking

2936
01:17:43,260 --> 01:17:45,390
video playing of someone's

2937
01:17:45,390 --> 01:17:47,020
elderly relative or something.

2938
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,100
That's all they could.

2939
01:17:48,540 --> 01:17:49,310
That's the only noise they

2940
01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:50,020
could make.

2941
01:17:50,140 --> 01:17:50,800
Marriage records.

2942
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:52,740
So you use the index to tell

2943
01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:54,250
you which records have

2944
01:17:54,250 --> 01:17:56,560
information on your family.

2945
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,220
And then here we go.

2946
01:17:58,540 --> 01:17:59,280
David Sheffey.

2947
01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:02,020
And you actually have dates of

2948
01:18:02,020 --> 01:18:02,380
birth.

2949
01:18:02,380 --> 01:18:04,460
There you have a relative of

2950
01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:06,780
Stuart from 1878.

2951
01:18:07,780 --> 01:18:08,600
Imagine that.

2952
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,380
A Sheffey from back then.

2953
01:18:11,780 --> 01:18:13,050
Wearing all the old kind of

2954
01:18:13,050 --> 01:18:13,620
gear.

2955
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,980
And going, all right.

2956
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:17,640
Okay.

2957
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,000
Like all black top hat.

2958
01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:22,240
In California maybe.

2959
01:18:22,340 --> 01:18:23,160
I'm not sure what they would

2960
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:24,000
have worn back then.

2961
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:24,320
Death.

2962
01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:25,300
Social security numbers.

2963
01:18:25,780 --> 01:18:26,760
So you can really go back and

2964
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:27,740
find people who didn't even

2965
01:18:27,740 --> 01:18:28,690
know existed and find more

2966
01:18:28,690 --> 01:18:29,820
information about them.

2967
01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:30,740
Oh, that is really cool.

2968
01:18:30,820 --> 01:18:30,960
Okay.

2969
01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:31,740
Family Tree Maker.

2970
01:18:32,220 --> 01:18:32,600
All right.

2971
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,720
Now we've seen what you can do

2972
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,820
with Family Tree Maker.

2973
01:18:35,020 --> 01:18:35,420
Liquid.

2974
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:35,900
Right.

2975
01:18:36,260 --> 01:18:37,770
The exit, the dismount, and

2976
01:18:37,770 --> 01:18:39,560
then the fucking move on.

2977
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:40,480
All right.

2978
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:41,880
Very cool.

2979
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:42,300
All right.

2980
01:18:42,620 --> 01:18:43,200
That is really cool.

2981
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:43,420
Okay.

2982
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:44,180
Family Tree Maker.

2983
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:45,060
All right.

2984
01:18:45,060 --> 01:18:46,260
Now we've seen what you can do

2985
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:47,380
with Family Tree Maker.

2986
01:18:47,500 --> 01:18:48,530
Let's go over now and visit

2987
01:18:48,530 --> 01:18:49,240
Jane Cronin.

2988
01:18:49,540 --> 01:18:50,590
And we're going to see what she

2989
01:18:50,590 --> 01:18:51,800
did with the software.

2990
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,130
Jane, you're from San Jose here

2991
01:18:53,130 --> 01:18:53,900
in California.

2992
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,440
Do you know the way to San Jose?

2993
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:58,140
Yes, I did.

2994
01:18:58,340 --> 01:18:58,620
Okay.

2995
01:18:58,740 --> 01:19:00,260
So now who's Michael?

2996
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,520
That's my husband.

2997
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,120
Uh-huh.

2998
01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:02,780
So show us what you did here.

2999
01:19:02,780 --> 01:19:03,500
I need to go to Jax.

3000
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,530
I'll leave you with this for a

3001
01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:04,980
moment.

3002
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,240
First, I'll show you the

3003
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,950
ancestral chart, the ancestral

3004
01:19:07,950 --> 01:19:08,360
tree.

3005
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:10,560
And this is me and my parents

3006
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,540
and my grandparents.

3007
01:19:12,940 --> 01:19:14,000
And you scanned in those photos

3008
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:14,760
that you had.

3009
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,500
And then was able to print out

3010
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:19,940
this lovely printout.

3011
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,320
Oh, that is so nice.

3012
01:19:20,380 --> 01:19:21,620
So you can actually print this

3013
01:19:21,620 --> 01:19:22,920
stuff out just like that and

3014
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,380
hand this out to your relatives

3015
01:19:24,380 --> 01:19:25,390
or show it to other people or

3016
01:19:25,390 --> 01:19:25,780
something.

3017
01:19:26,460 --> 01:19:26,700
Okay.

3018
01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:28,400
Now you can also do something

3019
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,820
called the Descendant Chart,

3020
01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:31,130
which is really to see the

3021
01:19:31,130 --> 01:19:31,960
bigger family

3022
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:32,640
tree, I guess.

3023
01:19:32,740 --> 01:19:33,000
The relationship.

3024
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:34,540
Oh, it's a ship.

3025
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:35,160
The family members.

3026
01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:37,870
And here is the Descendant

3027
01:19:37,870 --> 01:19:38,900
Chart.

3028
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:40,270
You zoom out so we can kind of

3029
01:19:40,270 --> 01:19:41,760
see the whole tree there.

3030
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:42,280
Okay.

3031
01:19:42,620 --> 01:19:44,020
So these are your father's

3032
01:19:44,020 --> 01:19:45,200
descendants, huh?

3033
01:19:45,460 --> 01:19:45,780
Yes.

3034
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:46,560
Wow.

3035
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,560
And this is my family.

3036
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:48,620
Wow, look at that.

3037
01:19:48,620 --> 01:19:49,060
There we go.

3038
01:19:49,060 --> 01:19:50,310
And then we can zoom in so that

3039
01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:51,840
we can read them more clearly.

3040
01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:52,980
All right.

3041
01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:53,990
Now there's another neat

3042
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:55,210
feature in here called Kinship

3043
01:19:55,210 --> 01:19:56,250
in which you can really put

3044
01:19:56,250 --> 01:19:56,780
together

3045
01:19:56,780 --> 01:19:58,420
a list of all the relatives you

3046
01:19:58,420 --> 01:19:58,840
have.

3047
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:59,240
Is that it?

3048
01:19:59,240 --> 01:19:59,260
Right.

3049
01:19:59,460 --> 01:20:00,080
Show me that one.

3050
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:00,940
This is the Kinship Chart.

3051
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:03,820
A lovely little kinship chart.

3052
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,460
Let's bring it up a little more.

3053
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:06,240
Okay.

3054
01:20:06,380 --> 01:20:08,510
And so this is every relative

3055
01:20:08,510 --> 01:20:11,200
you can think of in your family.

3056
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,060
Going way back.

3057
01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:12,700
Wow.

3058
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,450
Seven generations on one side

3059
01:20:14,450 --> 01:20:15,990
and six generations on the

3060
01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:16,840
other side.

3061
01:20:17,540 --> 01:20:18,180
And this shows you the

3062
01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:19,360
relationship.

3063
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,180
Brown William Wallace, great-grandfather

3064
01:20:22,180 --> 01:20:23,140
of the wife.

3065
01:20:23,140 --> 01:20:23,460
Wow.

3066
01:20:23,660 --> 01:20:26,360
William Wallace from Mel Gibson's

3067
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,360
Brave Lad, the great-grandfather

3068
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,580
of the wife.

3069
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,080
Great-grandfather of the wife.

3070
01:20:33,740 --> 01:20:34,940
Fucking William Wallace, hey.

3071
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,280
William Wallace Brown.

3072
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:39,630
How long did it take you to do

3073
01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:40,180
all this?

3074
01:20:40,580 --> 01:20:43,080
I've been doing genealogy for

3075
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,320
about a year.

3076
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:44,930
How long did it take you to do

3077
01:20:44,930 --> 01:20:45,280
all this?

3078
01:20:46,060 --> 01:20:46,460
Bralsig.

3079
01:20:46,820 --> 01:20:47,960
Yeah, some interesting names.

3080
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:48,380
All right.

3081
01:20:49,020 --> 01:20:50,820
Braden Bralsig is after you.

3082
01:20:52,740 --> 01:20:55,140
How about Jason Frederick Brandt?

3083
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:00,900
Jana Harnett Cezanne?

3084
01:21:01,820 --> 01:21:02,640
Audrey Cook?

3085
01:21:04,780 --> 01:21:07,410
I've been doing genealogy for

3086
01:21:07,410 --> 01:21:08,640
about a year.

3087
01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:09,100
Wow.

3088
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:10,790
And I've been taking the class

3089
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:12,240
at the Willow Center.

3090
01:21:12,980 --> 01:21:14,400
And so I've been collecting.

3091
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:14,820
I bet you've had great fun

3092
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:15,080
doing this.

3093
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:15,900
Oh, it's been wonderful.

3094
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:16,020
I bet you have great fun.

3095
01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:17,410
I've been collecting all my

3096
01:21:17,410 --> 01:21:18,980
little notes here and there and

3097
01:21:18,980 --> 01:21:20,060
the important papers that I

3098
01:21:20,060 --> 01:21:20,280
have

3099
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,120
at home and putting the

3100
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,040
information in here.

3101
01:21:22,540 --> 01:21:23,280
And I've gone to several

3102
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,520
different libraries.

3103
01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:24,820
That's great.

3104
01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:25,420
All right.

3105
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:26,630
So it's Family Tree Maker and

3106
01:21:26,630 --> 01:21:28,160
it's from Banner Blue Software.

3107
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:30,300
That was a fast one, wasn't it?

3108
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:32,350
I only nipped out for a second

3109
01:21:32,350 --> 01:21:34,320
back and then he's done.

3110
01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:36,050
There wasn't much to see there,

3111
01:21:36,050 --> 01:21:36,620
I imagine.

3112
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,980
Just text, just like a text

3113
01:21:38,980 --> 01:21:39,940
document.

3114
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:40,240
Look.

3115
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:41,020
Oh, look.

3116
01:21:41,060 --> 01:21:42,080
There's a...

3117
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:42,580
I see.

3118
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:44,160
Yeah.

3119
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,240
In and out.

3120
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,280
There's nothing really much.

3121
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,500
On one side and 6th Gen.

3122
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:49,810
Brown William doing genius at

3123
01:21:49,810 --> 01:21:50,820
the Willow Center.

3124
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,320
And there and different

3125
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,260
libraries.

3126
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:53,540
That's great.

3127
01:21:53,780 --> 01:21:54,160
All right.

3128
01:21:54,180 --> 01:21:55,360
So it's Family Tree Maker and

3129
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,840
it's from Banner Blue Software.

3130
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:57,620
All right.

3131
01:21:57,620 --> 01:21:59,130
But as we've seen before, the

3132
01:21:59,130 --> 01:22:00,270
internet and the online

3133
01:22:00,270 --> 01:22:01,630
services can provide a real

3134
01:22:01,630 --> 01:22:03,190
sense of community and

3135
01:22:03,190 --> 01:22:04,520
friendship for many senior

3136
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,380
citizens who are otherwise all

3137
01:22:06,380 --> 01:22:06,960
alone.

3138
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,570
In this week's Net News, we'll

3139
01:22:08,570 --> 01:22:10,110
focus on cyber sites that are

3140
01:22:10,110 --> 01:22:11,860
geared to the special needs of

3141
01:22:11,860 --> 01:22:12,880
older Americans.

3142
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:14,460
Thanks, Stuart.

3143
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,230
I know we're hearing a lot

3144
01:22:15,230 --> 01:22:16,160
about SeniorNet today.

3145
01:22:16,580 --> 01:22:17,540
Giles Bateman.

3146
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,920
A real go-getter.

3147
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,530
And look at these sensational

3148
01:22:22,530 --> 01:22:25,480
Computer Chronicles posters.

3149
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:27,610
Love to get my hands on a few

3150
01:22:27,610 --> 01:22:30,420
of those and decorate the gaff.

3151
01:22:32,500 --> 01:22:34,420
Based on one of the exit

3152
01:22:34,420 --> 01:22:37,340
graphics animations, I think,

3153
01:22:37,340 --> 01:22:39,290
where the He-Man kind of

3154
01:22:39,290 --> 01:22:42,500
character bursts through the PC.

3155
01:22:45,340 --> 01:22:46,340
Of older Americans.

3156
01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:47,940
Thanks, Stuart.

3157
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:48,850
I know we're hearing a lot

3158
01:22:48,850 --> 01:22:49,930
about SeniorNet today, but I

3159
01:22:49,930 --> 01:22:50,940
think it's important to see

3160
01:22:50,940 --> 01:22:52,000
their website because it's a

3161
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,220
very well-organized collection

3162
01:22:53,220 --> 01:22:54,100
of information.

3163
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:55,740
And they've got some nice...

3164
01:22:55,740 --> 01:22:57,510
What a beautiful, lovely,

3165
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:58,740
lovely website.

3166
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,480
An antique violin.

3167
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,080
A pillar.

3168
01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:08,960
Grandfather.

3169
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,100
An old text.

3170
01:23:12,740 --> 01:23:13,840
Medieval text.

3171
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,700
And then the next generation.

3172
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,500
Star Trek.

3173
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:21,600
The next generation.

3174
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:23,940
Graphics, as you can see.

3175
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,190
As I scroll down the page, you

3176
01:23:25,190 --> 01:23:26,240
see we can learn about the

3177
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,000
organization.

3178
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:28,350
We can learn about some of the

3179
01:23:28,350 --> 01:23:29,720
classes that they teach.

3180
01:23:29,980 --> 01:23:30,860
I'm going to go ahead and

3181
01:23:30,860 --> 01:23:31,740
scroll all the way to the

3182
01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:32,890
bottom of the page, and you'll

3183
01:23:32,890 --> 01:23:33,740
see they have Internet

3184
01:23:33,740 --> 01:23:34,700
resources in aging.

3185
01:23:34,820 --> 01:23:36,390
Now, this is a collection of

3186
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:38,120
links to other sites on the web

3187
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,820
that might be of interest.

3188
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,110
Now, if you're on an online

3189
01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:42,700
service, you probably only use

3190
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:43,160
email.

3191
01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:44,350
I know that's what I spend most

3192
01:23:44,350 --> 01:23:45,200
of my time doing.

3193
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:46,150
But there is a wealth of

3194
01:23:46,150 --> 01:23:47,450
information buried under some

3195
01:23:47,450 --> 01:23:48,260
of these things.

3196
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:49,480
Personal finance section, if

3197
01:23:49,480 --> 01:23:50,650
you've got some money you want

3198
01:23:50,650 --> 01:23:51,220
to invest.

3199
01:23:51,220 --> 01:23:52,610
But I think even more fun is

3200
01:23:52,610 --> 01:23:53,880
the travel section.

3201
01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:55,020
I'm going to go directly to the

3202
01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:55,780
cruise critic.

3203
01:23:56,060 --> 01:23:57,270
This is almost as good as

3204
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:58,730
having Bruce Williams right

3205
01:23:58,730 --> 01:24:00,170
there by your side to tell you

3206
01:24:00,170 --> 01:24:02,260
about and review different cruises,

3207
01:24:02,260 --> 01:24:03,800
as well as allow you to make

3208
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:04,900
reservations.

3209
01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:06,460
Now, some of the most relevant

3210
01:24:06,460 --> 01:24:08,110
and important information I've

3211
01:24:08,110 --> 01:24:09,560
ever read on the Internet was

3212
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,000
written by some of our senior

3213
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:11,780
citizens.

3214
01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:13,270
So if you are a senior citizen

3215
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:14,730
and you are not online, not

3216
01:24:14,730 --> 01:24:16,350
with email, and you don't know

3217
01:24:16,350 --> 01:24:17,910
how to use a computer, please

3218
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:19,640
go out, learn to use a computer,

3219
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,400
get online, because you'll have

3220
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,120
a lot of fun and we need you.

3221
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,730
Easier said than done, Giles,

3222
01:24:24,730 --> 01:24:25,420
you know.

3223
01:24:25,620 --> 01:24:26,600
Go out and learn to use a

3224
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,360
computer because we need you.

3225
01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:30,290
Now time for our weekly summary

3226
01:24:30,290 --> 01:24:31,400
of what's new in the field of

3227
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,560
personal computing.

3228
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:33,940
Let's go to Studio E.

3229
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,720
Will it be senior themed or

3230
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,710
will it just deviate from the

3231
01:24:37,710 --> 01:24:39,660
senior themed episode and go

3232
01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:41,350
back into shit hot new tech

3233
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:43,610
aimed at, you know, the younger

3234
01:24:43,610 --> 01:24:44,700
audience?

3235
01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:46,010
This week's our weekly line

3236
01:24:46,010 --> 01:24:47,310
because you'll have a lot of

3237
01:24:47,310 --> 01:24:48,420
fun and we need you.

3238
01:24:49,180 --> 01:24:50,160
Now time for our weekly summary

3239
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,690
of what's new in the field of

3240
01:24:51,690 --> 01:24:53,120
personal computing.

3241
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,860
Let's go to Studio E for this

3242
01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:56,030
week's computer news with

3243
01:24:56,030 --> 01:24:56,700
Laurie.

3244
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,990
In the random access file this

3245
01:24:58,990 --> 01:25:00,810
week, both MCI and AT&T are now

3246
01:25:00,810 --> 01:25:02,510
offering Internet access to

3247
01:25:02,510 --> 01:25:04,680
their long distance customers.

3248
01:25:05,260 --> 01:25:06,270
The two phone companies are

3249
01:25:06,270 --> 01:25:08,070
offering five free hours of net

3250
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:09,300
access per month.

3251
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:10,850
Chris, is it a shoulder pad

3252
01:25:10,850 --> 01:25:12,960
situation in 1996 even?

3253
01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:15,230
Or unlimited access for $19.95

3254
01:25:15,230 --> 01:25:15,960
per month.

3255
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,480
MCI said it would triple the

3256
01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:18,850
capacity of its Internet

3257
01:25:18,850 --> 01:25:20,270
backbone to support the

3258
01:25:20,270 --> 01:25:21,560
additional traffic.

3259
01:25:21,820 --> 01:25:23,450
The House of Representatives is

3260
01:25:23,450 --> 01:25:25,020
considering a new bill to limit

3261
01:25:25,020 --> 01:25:27,120
the effect of the new telecommunications

3262
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,980
deregulation law, which prohibits

3263
01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:30,240
indecent material on the

3264
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,040
Internet.

3265
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,030
The new language would restrict

3266
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:35,170
only material which is, quote,

3267
01:25:35,170 --> 01:25:36,460
harmful to minors.

3268
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,280
You may soon be sending Mother's

3269
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:39,980
Day cards on the Internet.

3270
01:25:40,420 --> 01:25:41,880
Walmart and Microsoft have

3271
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,470
reached agreement to jointly

3272
01:25:43,470 --> 01:25:45,130
develop a standard for sending

3273
01:25:45,130 --> 01:25:47,180
electronic greeting cards,

3274
01:25:47,180 --> 01:25:48,780
complete with color graphics

3275
01:25:48,780 --> 01:25:50,940
and possibly even animation.

3276
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,350
A federal court has upheld the

3277
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:54,890
right of employers to read

3278
01:25:54,890 --> 01:25:56,640
emails sent by employees over

3279
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,240
company email systems.

3280
01:25:58,700 --> 01:26:00,060
The case arose after Pillsbury

3281
01:26:00,060 --> 01:26:01,100
fired...

3282
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:02,400
I don't think I've seen this

3283
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,870
lady do the random access bit

3284
01:26:03,870 --> 01:26:04,360
before.

3285
01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:06,610
And it's also a deviation from

3286
01:26:06,610 --> 01:26:08,600
just the head-on shot of just

3287
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:09,360
there.

3288
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,360
And we've gone out to another

3289
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,860
angle, which is a new situation.

3290
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,970
A federal court has upheld the

3291
01:26:15,970 --> 01:26:18,340
right of employers to read...

3292
01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:20,210
You know, that sort of cadence,

3293
01:26:20,210 --> 01:26:22,020
the newsreader cadence, works

3294
01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:23,750
well, I think, in that format

3295
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:24,400
there.

3296
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:26,140
But then when you see the

3297
01:26:26,140 --> 01:26:28,330
person, it seems a little bit

3298
01:26:28,330 --> 01:26:31,300
unnatural when you see that...

3299
01:26:31,300 --> 01:26:32,480
...even animation.

3300
01:26:32,780 --> 01:26:33,300
...that shot there.

3301
01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:34,980
A federal court has upheld the

3302
01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:36,470
right of employers to read

3303
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:38,170
emails sent by employees over

3304
01:26:38,170 --> 01:26:39,800
company email systems.

3305
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:41,760
The case arose after Pillsbury

3306
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,790
fired an employee who had used

3307
01:26:43,790 --> 01:26:45,500
email messages to criticize

3308
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:47,390
managers in what was deemed an

3309
01:26:47,390 --> 01:26:49,240
inappropriate manner.

3310
01:26:49,460 --> 01:26:51,600
I wanted to hear more about the

3311
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,430
Pillsbury disgruntled employer,

3312
01:26:54,430 --> 01:26:55,760
but we won't.

3313
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:56,550
It's just left to our

3314
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:57,260
imagination.

3315
01:26:57,940 --> 01:26:59,520
The Pillsbury doughboy, the

3316
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,270
place where they make the

3317
01:27:01,270 --> 01:27:02,860
pastry and stuff.

3318
01:27:02,860 --> 01:27:05,350
Apparently, an employee, it

3319
01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:08,120
sounds like, really caused up a

3320
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,800
bit of a stink there.

3321
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,010
Add Novell to the list of Java

3322
01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:13,200
licensees.

3323
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,760
The company says it will soon

3324
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,360
offer the Java development

3325
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:17,980
platform as part of Netware,

3326
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,100
enabling customers to develop

3327
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,230
Java applications for Internet

3328
01:27:22,230 --> 01:27:23,660
and intranet use.

3329
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,630
Hewitt Packard and cell phone

3330
01:27:25,630 --> 01:27:27,300
maker Nokia have teamed up to

3331
01:27:27,300 --> 01:27:29,510
introduce the first-ever palm-top

3332
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:31,240
mobile business device,

3333
01:27:31,740 --> 01:27:33,970
The Omnigo 700 LX is

3334
01:27:33,970 --> 01:27:36,780
essentially an HP 200 LX palm-top

3335
01:27:36,780 --> 01:27:39,210
computer, coupled with a Nokia

3336
01:27:39,210 --> 01:27:40,700
cellular phone.

3337
01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:41,500
Look at that.

3338
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:43,800
Never seen that before.

3339
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,240
I mean, I remember that old

3340
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:48,560
phone, like...

3341
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,580
Or maybe I remember the one

3342
01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:52,500
that came after that.

3343
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,260
Even before the 3210, there was

3344
01:27:57,260 --> 01:27:58,900
a model of Nokia that looked

3345
01:27:58,900 --> 01:28:00,260
like that, but it had a

3346
01:28:00,260 --> 01:28:02,100
different button layout.

3347
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,300
And this is a Hewlett Packard

3348
01:28:07,300 --> 01:28:10,660
slot box, which your Nokia

3349
01:28:10,660 --> 01:28:12,680
slides into.

3350
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,040
It must have been a fucking co-production

3351
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,320
between Nokia and Hewlett Packard.

3352
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,300
So it's your palm-top, palm-pilot

3353
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:25,310
computer, but with phone access,

3354
01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:27,840
you slide your phone into it,

3355
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,220
and all the data that you've

3356
01:28:29,220 --> 01:28:30,780
been collating in it can be

3357
01:28:30,780 --> 01:28:31,480
transferred.

3358
01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:33,320
You know, contact details, text

3359
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:34,760
messages, the whatnot.

3360
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,950
Palm-top computer, coupled with

3361
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:39,160
a Nokia cellular phone. The

3362
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,790
result is a complete wireless

3363
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:42,960
mobile workstation, which lets

3364
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,870
you do email, send faxes, make

3365
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:46,570
phone calls, or run common

3366
01:28:46,570 --> 01:28:48,440
business applications.

3367
01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:51,200
Pretty cool, using WAP. I'd say

3368
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,160
it's using WAP.

3369
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,170
The Omnigo 700 is being

3370
01:28:55,170 --> 01:28:57,160
released first in Europe.

3371
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,190
Apple has unveiled another

3372
01:28:59,190 --> 01:29:01,360
upgrade to its Newton PDA.

3373
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,630
The new message pad 130 has

3374
01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:06,000
more memory, built-in internet

3375
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,700
capability, improved multitasking,

3376
01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:10,460
and a backlit screen.

3377
01:29:11,140 --> 01:29:12,530
iOmega says it will soon be

3378
01:29:12,530 --> 01:29:15,150
bundling its popular zip drives

3379
01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:17,320
in several desktop PCs.

3380
01:29:17,820 --> 01:29:19,780
Hewlett Packard and Micron have

3381
01:29:19,780 --> 01:29:21,260
made deals to use the zip

3382
01:29:21,260 --> 01:29:23,260
drives in selected PC models.

3383
01:29:23,780 --> 01:29:25,270
And in Europe, ESCOM has also

3384
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:27,300
signed up to offer an internal

3385
01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:29,420
zip drive in its computers.

3386
01:29:29,740 --> 01:29:31,490
For senior citizens interested

3387
01:29:31,490 --> 01:29:33,860
in getting into computers, Osborne

3388
01:29:33,860 --> 01:29:35,840
McGraw-Hill has just released

3389
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,820
Young at Heart, Computing for

3390
01:29:37,820 --> 01:29:38,720
Seniors.

3391
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:40,480
A new book aimed specifically

3392
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:42,240
at helping older adults get up

3393
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,790
to speed with computers,

3394
01:29:43,790 --> 01:29:45,800
software, and the internet.

3395
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,170
The book is co-authored by Mary

3396
01:29:48,170 --> 01:29:50,260
Furlong, founder of SeniorNet.

3397
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:51,980
And finally, websites are

3398
01:29:51,980 --> 01:29:53,930
getting more and more like TV,

3399
01:29:53,930 --> 01:29:55,960
including Nielsen ratings.

3400
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,890
The ratings are actually done

3401
01:29:57,890 --> 01:29:59,570
by a company called NPD and

3402
01:29:59,570 --> 01:30:01,600
automatically track web usage

3403
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,660
in selected metered homes.

3404
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,940
The first ratings were done in

3405
01:30:05,940 --> 01:30:07,690
January and showed AOL as the

3406
01:30:07,690 --> 01:30:09,720
most popular website, followed

3407
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,960
by Webcrawler, Netscape, Yahoo,

3408
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:13,180
and Infoseek.

3409
01:30:13,380 --> 01:30:13,720
Webcrawler.

3410
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:14,600
That's it for this week's

3411
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,280
Random Access.

3412
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:16,400
Back to you, Stuart.

3413
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:17,740
Anything more from Stu?

3414
01:30:17,860 --> 01:30:18,880
Pick of the week, maybe?

3415
01:30:19,220 --> 01:30:20,480
Now for my pick of the week.

3416
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:20,700
Beautiful.

3417
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:27,920
It's a massive pitch.

3418
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,660
A whole new world.

3419
01:30:30,660 --> 01:30:32,220
This is being built as a whole.

3420
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,220
You can create a whole new

3421
01:30:33,220 --> 01:30:33,660
world.

3422
01:30:33,780 --> 01:30:34,840
It creates a whole new world

3423
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:35,950
and lets you do things you

3424
01:30:35,950 --> 01:30:37,130
could have never done before

3425
01:30:37,130 --> 01:30:38,220
without a computer.

3426
01:30:38,740 --> 01:30:40,670
Well, Widget Workshop from Maxis

3427
01:30:40,670 --> 01:30:41,860
is such a program.

3428
01:30:44,860 --> 01:30:45,540
Let's have a look at the box

3429
01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:46,600
art.

3430
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,360
A Widget Workshop from Maxis.

3431
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,220
Some clip art inspired stuff.

3432
01:30:56,540 --> 01:30:59,140
Featuring a zany, crazy, kind

3433
01:30:59,140 --> 01:31:01,940
of poindexter type guy.

3434
01:31:02,220 --> 01:31:04,460
And then a bird with a massive

3435
01:31:04,460 --> 01:31:05,140
eye.

3436
01:31:06,340 --> 01:31:08,300
On top of the word widget.

3437
01:31:08,540 --> 01:31:09,840
The banner widget.

3438
01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:11,520
It's an interdepartmental

3439
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,270
science lab that is just really

3440
01:31:13,270 --> 01:31:15,040
fun and very educational.

3441
01:31:15,340 --> 01:31:16,640
And is this for seniors now?

3442
01:31:16,980 --> 01:31:18,480
Widget Workshop lets you build

3443
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:19,850
widgets, which are really

3444
01:31:19,850 --> 01:31:21,170
scientific experiments in

3445
01:31:21,170 --> 01:31:23,090
electricity, computers, biology,

3446
01:31:23,090 --> 01:31:24,760
math, physics, and so on.

3447
01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:26,270
Widget Workshop comes with a

3448
01:31:26,270 --> 01:31:27,890
huge toolkit that makes it easy

3449
01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:30,010
to construct wild, Rube Goldberg-type

3450
01:31:30,010 --> 01:31:31,590
contraptions that follow the

3451
01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:33,000
real laws of science.

3452
01:31:33,460 --> 01:31:34,030
It's somewhat like the

3453
01:31:34,030 --> 01:31:35,560
incredible machine, only it's

3454
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:36,360
not just a game.

3455
01:31:36,460 --> 01:31:37,990
It is a serious and powerful

3456
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:39,320
educational tool.

3457
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,020
What's really cool about Widget

3458
01:31:41,020 --> 01:31:42,810
Workshop's virtual lab is that

3459
01:31:42,810 --> 01:31:44,300
you can create things you could

3460
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:45,920
never create in a real lab.

3461
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,900
This program is fun and a must.

3462
01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:49,300
I don't think you can create

3463
01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:50,280
anything on it.

3464
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:51,680
It really is.

3465
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,600
It looks very basic as well.

3466
01:31:54,700 --> 01:31:56,190
But I mean, these pick of the

3467
01:31:56,190 --> 01:31:58,140
weeks, I think, are sponsored

3468
01:31:58,140 --> 01:31:58,760
content.

3469
01:31:59,540 --> 01:32:00,630
Although it's never intimated

3470
01:32:00,630 --> 01:32:02,440
at any point that they are.

3471
01:32:03,740 --> 01:32:04,140
Hello.

3472
01:32:04,260 --> 01:32:05,590
Thank you very much there for

3473
01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:06,060
the tip.

3474
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,620
For kids who like science.

3475
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,600
Widget Workshop from Maxis.

3476
01:32:11,140 --> 01:32:11,750
That's it for this week's

3477
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:12,960
Computer Chronicles.

3478
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,090
We'll be back here again next

3479
01:32:14,090 --> 01:32:14,460
week.

3480
01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:17,130
Somebody recommended me a torrent

3481
01:32:17,130 --> 01:32:19,310
which combines not only the

3482
01:32:19,310 --> 01:32:21,760
virtual machine software to run

3483
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,670
Windows 95 and 98 games, but it's

3484
01:32:25,670 --> 01:32:26,520
fucking huge.

3485
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,300
I've never seen such a huge torrent.

3486
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,720
It would take a long time to

3487
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,910
download every game ever made

3488
01:32:33,910 --> 01:32:36,980
for Windows 95 and 98 PC.

3489
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,210
Like that's something in and of

3490
01:32:40,210 --> 01:32:40,940
itself.

3491
01:32:41,460 --> 01:32:42,420
Don't have it yet.

3492
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:44,400
I don't think I would have it

3493
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,620
for some time.

3494
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,160
It was 255 or 256 gigabytes.

3495
01:32:49,660 --> 01:32:50,380
Thank you very much there.

3496
01:32:50,660 --> 01:32:51,880
That was Steve.

3497
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:53,140
And Skellington.

3498
01:32:53,300 --> 01:32:55,300
Thank you very much for the tip.

3499
01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:56,560
With another half hour.

3500
01:32:56,940 --> 01:32:58,110
Latest in personal computer

3501
01:32:58,110 --> 01:32:58,980
technology.

3502
01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:00,200
I'm Stuart Chaffee.

3503
01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:01,240
Any links for that?

3504
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:02,020
It's a website.

3505
01:33:02,420 --> 01:33:02,720
I actually.

3506
01:33:02,980 --> 01:33:03,300
It's a.

3507
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,720
You just like a www dot job.

3508
01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:06,760
I don't remember what it is

3509
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:07,260
though.

3510
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,260
And I don't have it to hand

3511
01:33:09,260 --> 01:33:09,520
here.

3512
01:33:09,860 --> 01:33:10,780
I see you here next week.

3513
01:33:10,780 --> 01:33:12,040
I'll get back to you on that.

3514
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,180
It's not only a few hours there,

3515
01:33:17,180 --> 01:33:17,840
Graggle.

3516
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,510
Especially if you're on the 5G

3517
01:33:20,510 --> 01:33:22,180
modem that I'm on.

3518
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,560
It would take quite some time.

3519
01:33:25,340 --> 01:33:26,190
Computer Chronicles is made

3520
01:33:26,190 --> 01:33:27,730
possible in part by Hewlett

3521
01:33:27,730 --> 01:33:29,700
Packard Personal Computers.

3522
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,860
Developing PCs for business.

3523
01:33:39,380 --> 01:33:36,720
Additional funding provided by

3524
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,520
the Software Publishers

3525
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,040
Association.

3526
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,760
Presenters of the Codys.

3527
01:33:44,980 --> 01:33:46,120
The annual Excellence in

3528
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,240
Software Awards.

3529
01:33:49,620 --> 01:33:48,780
Videotape copies of all

3530
01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:50,800
Computer Chronicles shows are

3531
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,280
available for $32.50.

3532
01:33:53,700 --> 01:33:54,060
Please order.

3533
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:55,330
I can't remember seeing this

3534
01:33:55,330 --> 01:33:55,840
before.

3535
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,360
Stu in the background.

3536
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,300
In this edit with the opacity

3537
01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:01,560
changed.

3538
01:34:02,460 --> 01:34:04,180
And the color hue changed.

3539
01:34:04,260 --> 01:34:05,080
The color of Stu.

3540
01:34:05,660 --> 01:34:06,800
To a lovely purple.

3541
01:34:08,620 --> 01:34:10,260
And great, great graphic design.

3542
01:34:10,380 --> 01:34:13,540
And that VHS slash Betamax tape.

3543
01:34:13,540 --> 01:34:16,500
For $32.50.

3544
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:18,220
Computing seniors.

3545
01:34:18,220 --> 01:34:19,560
By show number and topic.

3546
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:20,520
And for more detailed

3547
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:21,970
information about the series,

3548
01:34:21,970 --> 01:34:23,680
guests, and products featured.

3549
01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:24,060
Purple Haze.

3550
01:34:24,060 --> 01:34:24,750
You can also order a

3551
01:34:24,750 --> 01:34:25,730
subscription to the Shafay

3552
01:34:25,730 --> 01:34:26,180
Letter.

3553
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:27,780
In each issue, Stuart provides

3554
01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:28,970
his unique insights and

3555
01:34:28,970 --> 01:34:30,680
thoughts about the fast-changing

3556
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,420
world of personal technology.

3557
01:34:33,060 --> 01:34:33,860
Videotapes and the Shafay

3558
01:34:33,860 --> 01:34:34,500
Letter.

3559
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,100
You can be ordered by calling 1-800-800-9520.

3560
01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:38,600
Who are you?

3561
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:39,750
Or by writing us at the

3562
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:40,920
Computer Chronicles.

3563
01:34:41,300 --> 01:34:42,400
I don't know why.

3564
01:34:42,940 --> 01:34:43,680
Excuse me.

3565
01:34:43,700 --> 01:34:44,370
For more information on

3566
01:34:44,370 --> 01:34:44,920
anything else.

3567
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,500
While I teach this guy.

3568
01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:46,500
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-

3569
01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:51,130
Teach the senior citizen some

3570
01:34:51,130 --> 01:34:54,500
computing skills.

3571
01:34:55,700 --> 01:34:56,820
And look at this.

3572
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:00,100
DialogueNetscapeDialogueBox.

3573
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,820
Just fantastic graphics.

3574
01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:13,280
Excuse me.

3575
01:35:13,700 --> 01:35:15,060
What's this DPI?

3576
01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:17,560
I'm down now where I'm down now

3577
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:28,290
where I'll do that. I'm what a

3578
01:35:28,290 --> 01:35:30,060
bizarre end in

3579
01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:31,950
there of Claire labo who is

3580
01:35:31,950 --> 01:35:34,010
talking to Stu earlier on and

3581
01:35:34,010 --> 01:35:35,460
have just gone with

3582
01:35:35,460 --> 01:35:37,210
this. Why would you go with

3583
01:35:37,210 --> 01:35:38,890
that as the final picture of

3584
01:35:38,890 --> 01:35:39,420
her?

3585
01:35:39,420 --> 01:35:49,550
Love that. Watch the future.

3586
01:35:49,550 --> 01:35:53,360
And I forgot to fucking add any

3587
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:57,780
hot sizzle points there. Doesn't

3588
01:35:57,780 --> 01:35:58,060
matter.

3589
01:35:58,460 --> 01:36:00,640
Doesn't matter. There's still

3590
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,770
plenty more where that came

3591
01:36:02,770 --> 01:36:05,260
from as we transition here from

3592
01:36:05,260 --> 01:36:05,640
I see

3593
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,440
I was going to go into Netcafe

3594
01:36:08,440 --> 01:36:11,240
but Larry Maggots the Maggot

3595
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,340
man on Windows 95 which is

3596
01:36:14,340 --> 01:36:16,020
something we've seen before.

3597
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:18,440
I think I can't imagine us not

3598
01:36:18,440 --> 01:36:21,490
of having selected a Windows 95

3599
01:36:21,490 --> 01:36:24,640
thumbnail or anything like that.

3600
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,600
E3 special hasn't been clicked.

3601
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,260
Wild Bill Steely but it's I

3602
01:36:32,260 --> 01:36:35,820
think 1996 E3.

3603
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:38,140
It has to have been seen. It

3604
01:36:38,140 --> 01:36:40,160
has to have been seen.

3605
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:42,230
Let's have a quick quick quick

3606
01:36:42,230 --> 01:36:43,760
quick quick quick quick quick

3607
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,650
look. I think I remember this

3608
01:36:45,650 --> 01:36:46,300
book.

3609
01:36:47,300 --> 01:36:49,800
Thank you very much there. Shafi.com

3610
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,430
is up for sale. Would you

3611
01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:53,330
consider purchasing it to act

3612
01:36:53,330 --> 01:36:54,420
as a custodian?

3613
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:56,650
I wouldn't. I'd rather see it

3614
01:36:56,650 --> 01:36:58,560
in the hands of a Shafi.

3615
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:00,720
You know someone who's going to

3616
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,660
do it justice. Maybe really.

3617
01:37:02,660 --> 01:37:03,660
You know I just think it

3618
01:37:03,660 --> 01:37:05,160
belongs to him you know.

3619
01:37:06,700 --> 01:37:08,050
I'm just someone who likes his

3620
01:37:08,050 --> 01:37:10,800
oeuvre. His oeuvre and his

3621
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:11,920
stuffs.

3622
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:13,360
You know I don't want to be a

3623
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,420
custodian or anything like that.

3624
01:37:16,700 --> 01:37:17,360
If this is rubbish. If we've

3625
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,520
seen it before it's going off.

3626
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:21,130
There might be some good stuff

3627
01:37:21,130 --> 01:37:22,920
in it. With it being E3 you

3628
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:23,400
know.

3629
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:25,800
Ever getting back on the pace

3630
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,590
train of Silent Hill 1. Kalinsky.

3631
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:28,460
Thanks for the tip.

3632
01:37:29,220 --> 01:37:31,120
It's just the emulator stopped

3633
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,420
running it.

3634
01:37:32,540 --> 01:37:34,290
And I could fucking look. I

3635
01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:35,680
could give it a go.

3636
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:36,940
But it's so depressing.

3637
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:38,760
And they're remaking it aren't

3638
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:39,280
they?

3639
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:40,750
They're remaking it so it could

3640
01:37:40,750 --> 01:37:41,720
be out next year.

3641
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:44,460
I'm not sure I'd bother my arse

3642
01:37:44,460 --> 01:37:46,380
playing the original.

3643
01:37:46,900 --> 01:37:47,900
Or finishing it even.

3644
01:37:47,900 --> 01:37:56,820
Yeah I've seen that.

3645
01:37:57,380 --> 01:38:00,060
This was a bad audio episode.

3646
01:38:01,060 --> 01:38:02,430
Yeah we had to go to. That's

3647
01:38:02,430 --> 01:38:03,140
why I haven't clicked it.

3648
01:38:03,340 --> 01:38:05,550
Had to go to archive.com just

3649
01:38:05,550 --> 01:38:05,840
to get it.

3650
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:07,840
And even then the audio was naff.

3651
01:38:10,180 --> 01:38:10,900
Look at that.

3652
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:12,520
Maggie Cannon can't even hear

3653
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:13,740
what she's saying.

3654
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,690
It's just got all the interstitial

3655
01:38:17,690 --> 01:38:20,140
studio voiceover from Stu.

3656
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,810
But we don't have any of the

3657
01:38:21,810 --> 01:38:22,900
people audio.

3658
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,240
Maggie Cannon.

3659
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:41,080
And then boom.

3660
01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:43,360
And then boom.

3661
01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:46,670
Is this an archive.org

3662
01:38:46,670 --> 01:38:48,200
situation?

3663
01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:49,480
State of the web.

3664
01:38:50,020 --> 01:38:50,800
Web startups.

3665
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,000
That's just a load of web

3666
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:52,720
startups.

3667
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,540
Net games.

3668
01:38:57,540 --> 01:39:26,780
News.

3669
01:39:26,780 --> 01:39:28,310
This week at the Net Cafe,

3670
01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:30,100
games online. Want to play an

3671
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:31,950
RPG on the web? This is the new

3672
01:39:31,950 --> 01:39:33,810
EverQuest from Sony. It's as

3673
01:39:33,810 --> 01:39:35,830
good as it gets online. Meet Issa

3674
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:37,920
Stamos, the producer of Berserk's

3675
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,830
newest online game, What's the

3676
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:41,580
Big Idea? It's a TV game show

3677
01:39:41,580 --> 01:39:43,790
on the net. Bill Gates does it.

3678
01:39:43,790 --> 01:39:45,720
Warren Buffett does it. Why don't

3679
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:46,740
you do it?

3680
01:39:47,020 --> 01:39:48,180
Warren Buffett. We only talked

3681
01:39:48,180 --> 01:39:49,400
about him the other day.

3682
01:39:56,020 --> 01:39:58,300
I've seen it. Seen it. Can't

3683
01:39:58,300 --> 01:40:00,200
forget Gilbert. Back to the

3684
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,390
drawing board on that one. I'm

3685
01:40:02,390 --> 01:40:04,560
afraid, lads. I think we go to

3686
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,410
1998 and there's some fantastic

3687
01:40:07,410 --> 01:40:10,540
thumbnails there. I don't know.

3688
01:40:10,540 --> 01:40:13,100
Oh yeah, there was also, I just

3689
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:15,560
need to dip into this here, the

3690
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,960
playlist that was sent to me as

3691
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,230
a content gold mine treasure

3692
01:40:20,230 --> 01:40:21,160
trove.

3693
01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:22,840
Today we're going to discuss

3694
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,160
the hidden danger.

3695
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,800
None other than your man,

3696
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,130
Stuart, from the Net Cafe. But

3697
01:40:30,130 --> 01:40:32,620
in nowadays, he's a San

3698
01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:36,680
Francisco Bay Area probate realtor.

3699
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,720
And this is him nowadays.

3700
01:40:40,380 --> 01:40:41,880
In hiring a local real estate

3701
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,950
agent or friend in a probate

3702
01:40:43,950 --> 01:40:45,820
and trust situation.

3703
01:40:46,020 --> 01:40:47,670
Some of you are thinking about

3704
01:40:47,670 --> 01:40:49,700
a probate and trust situation.

3705
01:40:50,060 --> 01:40:51,020
Hiring a local real estate

3706
01:40:51,020 --> 01:40:52,460
agent that you may have known

3707
01:40:52,460 --> 01:40:54,160
for a few decades, or perhaps a

3708
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:55,780
family friend or a family

3709
01:40:55,780 --> 01:40:57,000
member with a real estate

3710
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:57,740
license.

3711
01:40:57,740 --> 01:41:00,040
So he really made good of his

3712
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,440
career post Net Cafe and he's

3713
01:41:02,440 --> 01:41:04,920
doing this realtor stuff.

3714
01:41:04,980 --> 01:41:06,940
Tell you that this could create

3715
01:41:06,940 --> 01:41:08,160
more problems.

3716
01:41:08,660 --> 01:41:09,810
Choosing the right real estate

3717
01:41:09,810 --> 01:41:11,320
agent for a probate or trust

3718
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:12,850
sale isn't just about knowing

3719
01:41:12,850 --> 01:41:14,080
the neighborhood.

3720
01:41:14,620 --> 01:41:16,600
While a probate or the opposite,

3721
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:17,820
a reprobate.

3722
01:41:17,820 --> 01:41:19,940
Local experience is valuable.

3723
01:41:19,940 --> 01:41:21,820
Handling complex transactions

3724
01:41:21,820 --> 01:41:23,790
like these require specialized

3725
01:41:23,790 --> 01:41:24,820
experience.

3726
01:41:25,020 --> 01:41:26,900
Without it, you risk delays,

3727
01:41:26,900 --> 01:41:28,200
liability and missed

3728
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:29,500
opportunities.

3729
01:41:29,660 --> 01:41:31,460
And unfortunately, I've seen a

3730
01:41:31,460 --> 01:41:33,120
lot of those happen over the

3731
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:34,500
past 21 years.

3732
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,220
In this video, I'll share with

3733
01:41:36,220 --> 01:41:37,890
you the key dangers of working

3734
01:41:37,890 --> 01:41:39,570
with someone unfamiliar with

3735
01:41:39,570 --> 01:41:41,400
probate and trust sales and how

3736
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,110
hiring a seasoned expert can

3737
01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:44,780
make all the difference.

3738
01:41:44,980 --> 01:41:47,350
Let's ensure your property sale

3739
01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:49,350
is smooth, successful and

3740
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:50,560
stress free.

3741
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,040
In my 21 years of experience, I've

3742
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:54,780
seen a lot of deals go off the

3743
01:41:54,780 --> 01:41:56,920
rail that no one anticipated.

3744
01:41:57,260 --> 01:41:58,110
My goal in this video is to

3745
01:41:58,110 --> 01:41:59,220
share with...

3746
01:41:59,220 --> 01:42:00,370
There really is no other

3747
01:42:00,370 --> 01:42:01,520
content from him on that

3748
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:02,960
particular video there.

3749
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:05,120
Cyborg, there's other stuff

3750
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,290
here than this little thing

3751
01:42:07,290 --> 01:42:08,880
that G-Man sent to us.

3752
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:11,910
But I wouldn't mind getting a

3753
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:14,560
good Net Cafe in...

3754
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,820
Before a cook report.

3755
01:42:18,260 --> 01:42:20,560
Stuart Shaffey PCTV promo.

3756
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:22,650
You don't have any other Net

3757
01:42:22,650 --> 01:42:25,380
Cafe in that list there, G-Man.

3758
01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:26,990
So I'll just have a look here

3759
01:42:26,990 --> 01:42:28,760
and see first before moving on

3760
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:29,400
to that.

3761
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:31,140
Group therapy.

3762
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,620
Jobs and careers.

3763
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:34,980
Making money.

3764
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:36,760
Portals.

3765
01:42:37,780 --> 01:42:38,920
One called Sex.

3766
01:42:39,460 --> 01:42:40,660
It's a bit early for that.

3767
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:42,880
Cyber Chat.

3768
01:42:42,980 --> 01:42:44,200
I think that's being seen.

3769
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,400
The Hollywood connection.

3770
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,080
Sismoviecritic.com.

3771
01:42:51,500 --> 01:42:52,700
HSX.com.

3772
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:54,800
Film.com.

3773
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:55,720
Portals.

3774
01:42:55,860 --> 01:42:57,410
Big buzzword in the late 90s

3775
01:42:57,410 --> 01:42:58,200
was portal.

3776
01:42:58,380 --> 01:42:59,860
Every website wanted to become

3777
01:42:59,860 --> 01:43:01,840
a place people went to first so

3778
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,400
they could monetize the traffic.

3779
01:43:07,580 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3780
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3781
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3782
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3783
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3784
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3785
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3786
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3787
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3788
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780
He looks intense.

3789
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:10,920
He looks intense.

3790
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,680
He looks intense.

3791
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:14,360
He looks intense.

3792
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:18,680
He looks intense.

3793
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:23,340
Quality is rough.

3794
01:43:23,340 --> 01:43:27,440
Portals.

3795
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:29,440
Portals.

3796
01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:31,620
This week at the internet cafe.

3797
01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:32,440
Portals.

3798
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:33,800
What's a portal anyway?

3799
01:43:34,260 --> 01:43:35,550
Seems everyone on the net wants

3800
01:43:35,550 --> 01:43:37,440
to be one including Netscape.

3801
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:38,880
NetCenter's Mike Homer will

3802
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,020
tell us why giving away

3803
01:43:40,020 --> 01:43:41,520
websites is a better business

3804
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,020
than giving away software.

3805
01:43:43,700 --> 01:44:10,900
It's great to have maggots.

3806
01:44:10,900 --> 01:44:12,840
Money will tell us why and we'll

3807
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,260
take you to hot bot a search

3808
01:44:14,260 --> 01:44:16,150
engine that still believes that

3809
01:44:16,150 --> 01:44:17,560
a good search engine is a

3810
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,200
terrible thing to waste.

3811
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:20,060
Portals.

3812
01:44:20,060 --> 01:44:20,060
Portals.

3813
01:44:20,060 --> 01:44:22,020
This week at the internet cafe.

3814
01:44:23,020 --> 01:44:24,280
The net cafe is made possible

3815
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,300
in part by Cybersmith.

3816
01:44:26,740 --> 01:44:27,450
Wired for fun and learning with

3817
01:44:27,450 --> 01:44:28,450
locations in Cambridge,

3818
01:44:28,450 --> 01:44:29,570
Massachusetts, Palo Alto,

3819
01:44:29,570 --> 01:44:30,840
California, and White Plains,

3820
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:31,420
New York.

3821
01:44:32,260 --> 01:44:33,440
And by TechWeb for up to the

3822
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,620
minute technology news.

3823
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:38,980
So we're talking about portals

3824
01:44:38,980 --> 01:44:40,230
and Andrew I know in your other

3825
01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:41,530
life you work with HotWired and

3826
01:44:41,530 --> 01:44:42,830
HotBot and you should have been

3827
01:44:42,830 --> 01:44:43,980
involved in this issue.

3828
01:44:43,980 --> 01:44:45,500
So kind of give us a little bit

3829
01:44:45,500 --> 01:44:47,050
of an education here. What

3830
01:44:47,050 --> 01:44:48,020
really is a portal?

3831
01:44:48,020 --> 01:44:49,280
Well, I think a portal is

3832
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:50,660
probably more of a business

3833
01:44:50,660 --> 01:44:52,210
term than a consumer term. A

3834
01:44:52,210 --> 01:44:54,110
portal, think of a window on a

3835
01:44:54,110 --> 01:44:55,100
ship, right?

3836
01:44:55,860 --> 01:44:56,790
Basically, it's a place that

3837
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:58,380
people will come to first.

3838
01:44:58,380 --> 01:45:00,310
I love the atmosphere as well.

3839
01:45:00,310 --> 01:45:02,820
It's a nighttime event in Cybersmith.

3840
01:45:02,820 --> 01:45:04,180
Maybe even seasonal. Maybe

3841
01:45:04,180 --> 01:45:05,880
Christmas. I'm not sure. That

3842
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,340
could be a bit of tinsel there.

3843
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,880
What the hell is that there? I

3844
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,080
don't like this coming up and

3845
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,200
show me this selection of stuff.

3846
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,120
Prince Harry, Jimmy Savile,

3847
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,040
Blazing Saddles,

3848
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,120
Blazing Savile,

3849
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:25,620
Father Ted,

3850
01:45:26,620 --> 01:45:29,240
and then Murders, 20 years on.

3851
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,120
...of the internet.

3852
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:31,440
Right.

3853
01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:32,380
Hopefully it's a place...

3854
01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:32,860
Right.

3855
01:45:32,980 --> 01:45:33,620
...to catch...

3856
01:45:33,620 --> 01:45:34,870
It's a place that people will

3857
01:45:34,870 --> 01:45:36,200
come to first when...

3858
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,040
When it was Blazing Saddles...

3859
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,280
...suggested because of Jimmy

3860
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,100
Savile, or was there some sort

3861
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:43,520
of connection there?

3862
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:44,720
...going to the internet. Right.

3863
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:45,740
Hopefully it's a place that

3864
01:45:45,740 --> 01:45:46,750
catches a lot of traffic and

3865
01:45:46,750 --> 01:45:47,780
keeps people coming back by

3866
01:45:47,780 --> 01:45:49,070
providing different services.

3867
01:45:49,070 --> 01:45:50,440
You know, kind of like...

3868
01:45:50,440 --> 01:45:51,990
Like a Yahoo, a Net Center...

3869
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:53,330
Yeah, kind of like what AOL was

3870
01:45:53,330 --> 01:45:55,140
before the web... Jimmy Savile.

3871
01:45:55,140 --> 01:45:56,480
...AOL was your one-stop

3872
01:45:56,480 --> 01:45:57,360
inclusive place.

3873
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:58,880
And why does it matter? I mean,

3874
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,520
why do people want to be portals?

3875
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:01,630
Well, it matters for business

3876
01:46:01,630 --> 01:46:02,770
because the more you get people

3877
01:46:02,770 --> 01:46:03,640
to come back...

3878
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,640
Why do people want to be portals?

3879
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:06,250
I can continue to come back.

3880
01:46:06,250 --> 01:46:07,010
The more traffic, the more...

3881
01:46:07,010 --> 01:46:07,640
dollars, money...

3882
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:08,830
The more they'll look at your

3883
01:46:08,830 --> 01:46:10,010
advertising and that's big

3884
01:46:10,010 --> 01:46:10,520
bucks.

3885
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:11,020
Money.

3886
01:46:11,020 --> 01:46:11,980
What do you think about that? I

3887
01:46:11,980 --> 01:46:12,830
mean, would you hang out in a

3888
01:46:12,830 --> 01:46:13,960
portal or do that kind of thing?

3889
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:14,320
Or is it...

3890
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,620
No, I think the whole issue of

3891
01:46:15,620 --> 01:46:16,920
portals is, you know, you have

3892
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,120
to have a sticky portal now,

3893
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:19,490
right? So you have to get them

3894
01:46:19,490 --> 01:46:20,360
to hang around.

3895
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:21,760
Hold you in there. You can't

3896
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:22,800
get away. Right.

3897
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,240
Like flies to fly paper. So

3898
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:25,800
that's the whole next step.

3899
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:27,000
As Andrew says, it's a business.

3900
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:27,880
Well, we'll find out more

3901
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:28,320
tonight.

3902
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,160
And when Jim was speaking there,

3903
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,000
it's nice to have that

3904
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,000
background action.

3905
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,000
A car goes racing by.

3906
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,110
Hold you in there. You can't

3907
01:46:38,110 --> 01:46:39,000
get away. Right.

3908
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,150
And it flies to fly paper. So

3909
01:46:40,150 --> 01:46:41,200
that's the whole step.

3910
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,200
Wait for it there. Wow.

3911
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,880
Wow. Little truck. Well, we'll

3912
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:45,080
find out more tonight.

3913
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,090
It's the atmosphere. It's the

3914
01:46:47,090 --> 01:46:48,730
atmospheric and a lovely

3915
01:46:48,730 --> 01:46:50,950
transition there, as we can see.

3916
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:55,800
A multi-diagonal wipe or a...

3917
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,300
what would you call that? I don't

3918
01:46:58,300 --> 01:47:01,150
know. Not a... it's not a wipe

3919
01:47:01,150 --> 01:47:02,950
or a fade. Looks like a bear

3920
01:47:02,950 --> 01:47:05,680
claw. A rip or a tear. Tiger

3921
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:11,960
mall wipe. Digi-rave. Digi-bat.

3922
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,380
So that's the whole next step.

3923
01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:14,950
As Andrew says, it's a business.

3924
01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:16,100
Well, we'll find out more

3925
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:16,840
tonight.

3926
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:19,230
So, dear, you're one of the co-founders

3927
01:47:19,230 --> 01:47:21,090
of Excite, a website that is, I

3928
01:47:21,090 --> 01:47:22,600
guess, according to the

3929
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,070
terminology of today, is

3930
01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:26,160
considered to be a portal site.

3931
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,240
The world in the day. Portal.

3932
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:27,840
Yeah. There it is.

3933
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,170
And the Dutch angle is in full

3934
01:47:30,170 --> 01:47:32,600
effect here. MTV, eat your

3935
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,140
heart out. And a lovely scene

3936
01:47:35,140 --> 01:47:37,710
there. You can see this fella

3937
01:47:37,710 --> 01:47:40,280
going hard at the monitor.

3938
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:41,840
Again, at the end of the day.

3939
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,310
As I always like to remind

3940
01:47:43,310 --> 01:47:45,160
people, ensconced inside a

3941
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:45,720
cabinet.

3942
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:47,400
It'd be hard to really

3943
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,860
understand whether or not that's

3944
01:47:49,860 --> 01:47:52,110
going to have ample room to let

3945
01:47:52,110 --> 01:47:53,910
the heat sink out of that

3946
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:54,860
monitor.

3947
01:47:55,180 --> 01:47:56,630
Or is that going to decrease

3948
01:47:56,630 --> 01:47:58,460
monitor life? I think it might

3949
01:47:58,460 --> 01:48:00,100
decrease monitor life, but they

3950
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:01,480
probably had the money for it.

3951
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:02,880
It's like, you know, community

3952
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,070
portal, the whole nine yards.

3953
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:07,030
What? And then you've got those

3954
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:10,620
CCTV sort of strange voyeuristic

3955
01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:12,600
shots from the side. And is

3956
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,300
that like a little monkey there?

3957
01:48:15,940 --> 01:48:17,940
It looks like, see, just from

3958
01:48:17,940 --> 01:48:19,750
here, it looks like a dog's

3959
01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:21,700
face. That looks like a dog's

3960
01:48:21,700 --> 01:48:23,380
nose and a dog's eyes and an

3961
01:48:23,380 --> 01:48:23,980
ear.

3962
01:48:26,460 --> 01:48:28,410
But then when you zoom in, it

3963
01:48:28,410 --> 01:48:30,440
does, it looks like a dog is on

3964
01:48:30,440 --> 01:48:32,820
the back of a human. Like, that's

3965
01:48:32,820 --> 01:48:34,190
the human there using the

3966
01:48:34,190 --> 01:48:35,810
computer. And then it's got

3967
01:48:35,810 --> 01:48:37,620
like a little dog on its back.

3968
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:40,920
More will be revealed, I

3969
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:42,810
imagine, I hope, as the scene

3970
01:48:42,810 --> 01:48:43,660
unwinds.

3971
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,540
For those of us who are

3972
01:48:45,540 --> 01:48:47,240
familiar with the concept of

3973
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,000
portal sites and who have seen

3974
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:50,830
the likes of Yahoo and AOL and

3975
01:48:50,830 --> 01:48:52,040
Excite, how would you

3976
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:53,780
differentiate what Excite is

3977
01:48:53,780 --> 01:48:55,540
doing compared to Yahoo, for

3978
01:48:55,540 --> 01:48:56,520
example?

3979
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:58,540
I'd really focus on two areas.

3980
01:48:58,540 --> 01:48:59,870
Those areas are personalization

3981
01:48:59,870 --> 01:49:00,660
and community.

3982
01:49:01,340 --> 01:49:02,200
So personalization is the

3983
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,880
notion that you can make a web

3984
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,850
experience that's entirely your

3985
01:49:05,850 --> 01:49:06,360
own.

3986
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:07,220
Crouser.

3987
01:49:07,220 --> 01:49:08,370
Remember, each time you come

3988
01:49:08,370 --> 01:49:09,390
back and you decide what that's

3989
01:49:09,390 --> 01:49:10,490
going to look like. And then

3990
01:49:10,490 --> 01:49:11,480
community, the notion of

3991
01:49:11,480 --> 01:49:12,650
interacting with other people

3992
01:49:12,650 --> 01:49:13,100
online.

3993
01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:14,740
The Crousemeister.

3994
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:16,300
One thing that I find extremely

3995
01:49:16,300 --> 01:49:17,870
frustrating with sites is that

3996
01:49:17,870 --> 01:49:19,480
in order for me to personalize,

3997
01:49:19,480 --> 01:49:20,740
I have to go through all of

3998
01:49:20,740 --> 01:49:22,180
these screens and it takes me

3999
01:49:22,180 --> 01:49:23,520
lots of time to do that.

4000
01:49:24,020 --> 01:49:25,110
So I'm not completely convinced

4001
01:49:25,110 --> 01:49:26,650
that personalization is what I

4002
01:49:26,650 --> 01:49:28,260
want. Why? Are you doing

4003
01:49:28,260 --> 01:49:30,410
anything that makes it more palatable

4004
01:49:30,410 --> 01:49:31,000
for me?

4005
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,040
Well, one of the ways we

4006
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:33,310
differentiate ourselves in

4007
01:49:33,310 --> 01:49:34,570
personalization is the fact

4008
01:49:34,570 --> 01:49:35,780
that we do something called

4009
01:49:35,780 --> 01:49:37,260
creeping personalization.

4010
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:37,920
Creeping.

4011
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,530
I know it sounds bad, but it

4012
01:49:39,530 --> 01:49:40,940
makes it a lot easier.

4013
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:42,010
Is this a geek term? This is

4014
01:49:42,010 --> 01:49:42,520
creeping.

4015
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:42,900
No.

4016
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:44,440
It's going to be okay. Don't

4017
01:49:44,440 --> 01:49:45,460
worry about it.

4018
01:49:45,460 --> 01:49:46,120
It's just a Joe term.

4019
01:49:46,140 --> 01:49:46,940
All right, all right, all right.

4020
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:48,740
Well, creeping personalization...

4021
01:49:48,740 --> 01:49:49,850
They could have called it

4022
01:49:49,850 --> 01:49:51,350
something better. All right,

4023
01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:52,880
all right. It's just a Joe term,

4024
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:53,500
he says.

4025
01:49:54,440 --> 01:49:55,190
Personalization. I know it

4026
01:49:55,190 --> 01:49:56,060
sounds bad.

4027
01:49:56,180 --> 01:49:57,370
It sounds bad, but it's really,

4028
01:49:57,370 --> 01:49:58,520
it makes it a lot easier.

4029
01:49:58,740 --> 01:49:59,530
Is this a geek term? This is

4030
01:49:59,530 --> 01:50:00,080
creeping.

4031
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:00,420
No.

4032
01:50:00,540 --> 01:50:00,900
Oh, okay.

4033
01:50:00,900 --> 01:50:01,740
It's just a Joe term.

4034
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:02,520
All right, all right, all right.

4035
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,340
A Joe term.

4036
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:04,710
Well, creeping personalization

4037
01:50:04,710 --> 01:50:05,850
is most sites require you to

4038
01:50:05,850 --> 01:50:06,970
fill out this huge form before

4039
01:50:06,970 --> 01:50:08,070
you even get to see what your

4040
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:09,500
personalized page looks like.

4041
01:50:09,500 --> 01:50:10,430
It drives me crazy. It drives a

4042
01:50:10,430 --> 01:50:11,740
lot of people crazy. And so

4043
01:50:11,740 --> 01:50:13,160
what we did instead is we give

4044
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:14,630
you a default page, a page that

4045
01:50:14,630 --> 01:50:16,020
has news, stock, sports,

4046
01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:17,240
weather, horoscope.

4047
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:18,540
May not be personalized to you.

4048
01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:19,300
Don't worry about it.

4049
01:50:19,300 --> 01:50:20,080
It gives you a sense of what

4050
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,160
you're going to see. And then

4051
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,130
beyond that, in order to

4052
01:50:22,130 --> 01:50:23,450
personalize, we don't require

4053
01:50:23,450 --> 01:50:24,580
you to fill out a big form.

4054
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:25,980
Give us your zip code today and

4055
01:50:25,980 --> 01:50:27,090
we'll give you personalized

4056
01:50:27,090 --> 01:50:28,420
weather, personalized sports

4057
01:50:28,420 --> 01:50:29,590
course. Give us your birthday

4058
01:50:29,590 --> 01:50:30,650
the next day, we'll give you a

4059
01:50:30,650 --> 01:50:31,800
personalized horoscope.

4060
01:50:32,180 --> 01:50:33,130
So again, the notion is you can

4061
01:50:33,130 --> 01:50:34,130
give just little bits of

4062
01:50:34,130 --> 01:50:35,350
information at a time, go at

4063
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:36,730
your own pace. It makes it much

4064
01:50:36,730 --> 01:50:38,000
easier to personalize.

4065
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:38,940
So through experience, I can

4066
01:50:38,940 --> 01:50:39,880
basically learn what it is.

4067
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:40,940
Well, I didn't like it this way.

4068
01:50:40,940 --> 01:50:41,820
I might want to change it. I

4069
01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:42,900
can tweak it over time.

4070
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:43,900
Go at your own pace. See what

4071
01:50:43,900 --> 01:50:44,920
you're going to get before you

4072
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:45,590
even have to give any

4073
01:50:45,590 --> 01:50:46,320
information.

4074
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:47,780
So now, portal sites, when I

4075
01:50:47,780 --> 01:50:49,120
think about them, I think about

4076
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:50,270
chat rooms. I think about

4077
01:50:50,270 --> 01:50:51,700
search engines. I think about

4078
01:50:51,700 --> 01:50:52,220
free mail.

4079
01:50:53,420 --> 01:50:54,570
When you think about chat rooms,

4080
01:50:54,570 --> 01:50:56,760
you think about what? Search

4081
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,440
engines, free mail. And you don't

4082
01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:00,980
tend to think about the...

4083
01:51:00,980 --> 01:51:01,860
Maybe even personalized

4084
01:51:01,860 --> 01:51:03,960
homepage. Personalized homepage

4085
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:04,940
community.

4086
01:51:05,260 --> 01:51:06,140
Are you doing all of those

4087
01:51:06,140 --> 01:51:07,580
things? Are you focusing on a

4088
01:51:07,580 --> 01:51:09,140
small number of those things?

4089
01:51:09,300 --> 01:51:10,350
Well, three of the four things

4090
01:51:10,350 --> 01:51:11,570
you mentioned there are really

4091
01:51:11,570 --> 01:51:12,940
around this notion of community,

4092
01:51:12,940 --> 01:51:14,160
which is about people using the

4093
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,270
internet to connect with one

4094
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:16,180
another online.

4095
01:51:16,300 --> 01:51:17,300
And typically, the word

4096
01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:18,550
community means chat and email

4097
01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:19,880
and bulletin boards and instant

4098
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:21,420
messaging. All things that we

4099
01:51:21,420 --> 01:51:22,960
offer. All stuff that consumers

4100
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:23,400
love.

4101
01:51:23,660 --> 01:51:24,510
We're trying to take it to the

4102
01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:25,680
next level with a product that

4103
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:27,360
we actually call Excite Communities.

4104
01:51:27,420 --> 01:51:28,660
And what that is, is chat is

4105
01:51:28,660 --> 01:51:29,830
like a cocktail party of

4106
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:31,420
thousands, where it's great for

4107
01:51:31,420 --> 01:51:32,830
meeting people, but it's not

4108
01:51:32,830 --> 01:51:34,390
very good for having meaningful

4109
01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:35,400
discussions.

4110
01:51:36,220 --> 01:51:36,770
That's very unlike an intimate

4111
01:51:36,770 --> 01:51:38,050
dinner party, where you can

4112
01:51:38,050 --> 01:51:39,420
control who's coming to that

4113
01:51:39,420 --> 01:51:40,630
dinner party and control the

4114
01:51:40,630 --> 01:51:41,960
topic of conversation.

4115
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:43,150
Excite Communities is much more

4116
01:51:43,150 --> 01:51:44,480
like the intimate dinner party.

4117
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:46,400
Okay, so can you explain to me

4118
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,650
what I... I'll take it a step

4119
01:51:47,650 --> 01:51:48,000
further.

4120
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:49,640
Walk me down the path.

4121
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:50,060
Certainly.

4122
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,420
She's like, it sounds shit.

4123
01:51:52,540 --> 01:51:53,570
Can you try and make it sound

4124
01:51:53,570 --> 01:51:54,040
better?

4125
01:51:54,380 --> 01:51:55,420
Excite Communities is...

4126
01:51:55,420 --> 01:51:57,720
Mom's snaps of Joe.

4127
01:51:58,220 --> 01:51:59,880
So maybe that's his...

4128
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:00,840
Maybe he's called Joe, this

4129
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:01,160
fella.

4130
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:02,750
Because he said it's kind of a

4131
01:52:02,750 --> 01:52:03,480
Joe term.

4132
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:04,660
You know, the creep.

4133
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:05,740
The creep and stuff.

4134
01:52:06,580 --> 01:52:07,340
You and I could set up a

4135
01:52:07,340 --> 01:52:07,880
community.

4136
01:52:08,300 --> 01:52:09,210
And only you and I could get

4137
01:52:09,210 --> 01:52:10,500
into that community.

4138
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:11,350
And once we're in that

4139
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:12,480
community, we could share a

4140
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:13,120
calendar.

4141
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:14,190
You could post where you're

4142
01:52:14,190 --> 01:52:15,260
going on that calendar.

4143
01:52:15,420 --> 01:52:15,540
I could post...

4144
01:52:15,540 --> 01:52:16,150
So you can collaborate with

4145
01:52:16,150 --> 01:52:16,580
somebody else.

4146
01:52:16,580 --> 01:52:16,980
Absolutely.

4147
01:52:16,980 --> 01:52:17,560
Okay, I got you.

4148
01:52:17,740 --> 01:52:19,200
You can share an address book

4149
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:20,760
of relevant contacts for each

4150
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:21,260
of us.

4151
01:52:21,340 --> 01:52:22,340
We can share photo albums.

4152
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:23,600
So it's great for families who

4153
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:24,750
are maybe spread across the

4154
01:52:24,750 --> 01:52:25,800
country as a way to stay in

4155
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:26,320
touch.

4156
01:52:26,620 --> 01:52:27,820
It's great for small businesses

4157
01:52:27,820 --> 01:52:28,870
that maybe need to have

4158
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:30,250
multiple people in the office

4159
01:52:30,250 --> 01:52:30,880
coordinate

4160
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,180
around a calendar or an address

4161
01:52:32,180 --> 01:52:32,560
book.

4162
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,220
It's even great for events.

4163
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:35,940
If you're planning a wedding,

4164
01:52:35,940 --> 01:52:37,520
one thing you could do is have

4165
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,250
the address book of hotels near

4166
01:52:39,250 --> 01:52:40,500
where your event is going to be

4167
01:52:40,500 --> 01:52:41,860
or a calendar of all the events

4168
01:52:41,860 --> 01:52:43,220
leading up to the wedding.

4169
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:44,950
So when I think about a great

4170
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:47,060
portal site for personalization

4171
01:52:47,060 --> 01:52:49,340
and community, Excite.com.

4172
01:52:49,460 --> 01:52:49,860
Absolutely.

4173
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:52,440
For URLs of today's featured

4174
01:52:52,440 --> 01:52:54,990
websites, just go to the Net

4175
01:52:54,990 --> 01:52:57,640
Cafe site at CNPTV.com.

4176
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:00,070
Well, Charles, you have founded

4177
01:53:00,070 --> 01:53:01,720
CitySearch.com.

4178
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:02,720
CitySearch.com.

4179
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:09,800
Lovely spring-loaded stew.

4180
01:53:13,060 --> 01:53:14,540
It's cheeky.

4181
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:21,950
Well, Charles, you have founded

4182
01:53:21,950 --> 01:53:30,200
CitySearch.com, which is what?

4183
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,080
CitySearch is where to go and

4184
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:33,480
what to do in your community.

4185
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,200
It helps people find more out

4186
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,000
about their city in areas like

4187
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:38,580
arts and entertainment,

4188
01:53:38,580 --> 01:53:40,380
community, recreation, or

4189
01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:41,300
shopping.

4190
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:42,360
All right, so it's really kind

4191
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:43,470
of a collection of sites then,

4192
01:53:43,470 --> 01:53:44,490
depending on what city you live

4193
01:53:44,490 --> 01:53:44,820
in?

4194
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:46,300
Actually, most of CitySearch

4195
01:53:46,300 --> 01:53:47,840
has created original content by

4196
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:49,260
our own editorial team rather

4197
01:53:49,260 --> 01:53:50,820
than a compilation of links.

4198
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:52,280
All right, so say we're in the

4199
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:53,670
Bay Area right now, and I want

4200
01:53:53,670 --> 01:53:55,160
to find out what's going on.

4201
01:53:55,220 --> 01:53:56,640
Is that why I would go to CitySearch?

4202
01:53:56,740 --> 01:53:57,810
Find out what's going on, what's

4203
01:53:57,810 --> 01:53:58,690
there to do tonight, and

4204
01:53:58,690 --> 01:53:59,380
restaurants?

4205
01:53:59,620 --> 01:53:59,940
Absolutely.

4206
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:01,900
CitySearch has 500 Italian

4207
01:54:01,900 --> 01:54:03,300
restaurants online.

4208
01:54:03,440 --> 01:54:04,180
We have every movie.

4209
01:54:04,180 --> 01:54:04,740
Just for San Francisco?

4210
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:05,420
Absolutely.

4211
01:54:05,620 --> 01:54:05,840
All right.

4212
01:54:05,980 --> 01:54:06,870
Every bit of theater,

4213
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:08,260
recreation, including mountain

4214
01:54:08,260 --> 01:54:09,470
biking, pretty much anything

4215
01:54:09,470 --> 01:54:10,590
you might want to do out in the

4216
01:54:10,590 --> 01:54:11,620
San Francisco area.

4217
01:54:11,700 --> 01:54:12,700
Now, we're sort of talking

4218
01:54:12,700 --> 01:54:14,000
about portals in this show.

4219
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:15,110
Do you think of CitySearch as a

4220
01:54:15,110 --> 01:54:16,140
portal, a kind of starting

4221
01:54:16,140 --> 01:54:17,110
point where if I live in the

4222
01:54:17,110 --> 01:54:18,210
Bay Area, I could go there and

4223
01:54:18,210 --> 01:54:19,190
find out anything I needed

4224
01:54:19,190 --> 01:54:20,180
through CitySearch?

4225
01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:21,420
Yeah, portal's a funny word.

4226
01:54:21,500 --> 01:54:22,980
I think CitySearch is a local

4227
01:54:22,980 --> 01:54:23,600
portal.

4228
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:24,940
We help people organize their

4229
01:54:24,940 --> 01:54:25,920
local experience.

4230
01:54:26,060 --> 01:54:27,150
I think geography is the most

4231
01:54:27,150 --> 01:54:28,610
important organizing principle

4232
01:54:28,610 --> 01:54:30,130
for people's behavior, and that's

4233
01:54:30,130 --> 01:54:31,460
what CitySearch is about.

4234
01:54:31,460 --> 01:54:32,550
Well, that's funny because we

4235
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:33,770
think of the net as anti-geography

4236
01:54:33,770 --> 01:54:34,240
in a way.

4237
01:54:34,300 --> 01:54:35,200
The whole bit of the net is you

4238
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,180
can be talking to somebody

4239
01:54:36,180 --> 01:54:37,180
across the street or around the

4240
01:54:37,180 --> 01:54:38,150
world, and it's all the same

4241
01:54:38,150 --> 01:54:39,280
thing, but you're saying, no,

4242
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:40,300
where you are...

4243
01:54:40,300 --> 01:54:42,350
These towels for your session

4244
01:54:42,350 --> 01:54:44,450
in Cybersmith at the back, or

4245
01:54:44,450 --> 01:54:46,210
maybe they're shirts and

4246
01:54:46,210 --> 01:54:48,520
merchandise, I'm not sure.

4247
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:51,240
But it could be hot inside that

4248
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,100
net caffeine, Cybersmith.

4249
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:53,950
Physically, really still

4250
01:54:53,950 --> 01:54:54,820
matters even on the web.

4251
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:56,290
People spend 95% of their time

4252
01:54:56,290 --> 01:54:58,010
and their money within 10 or 15

4253
01:54:58,010 --> 01:54:59,080
miles of their homes.

4254
01:54:59,460 --> 01:55:00,280
It's still the most relevant

4255
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:01,060
thing for them.

4256
01:55:01,540 --> 01:55:02,030
All right, now, if I go on to

4257
01:55:02,030 --> 01:55:03,140
CitySearch, let's say we're in

4258
01:55:03,140 --> 01:55:04,120
San Francisco, what are the

4259
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:05,420
kinds of things I could find?

4260
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:06,690
Is it just the what's going on

4261
01:55:06,690 --> 01:55:07,980
stuff, or is there more?

4262
01:55:08,140 --> 01:55:09,100
No, actually quite a bit more.

4263
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:09,980
There's a sauna in the back.

4264
01:55:09,980 --> 01:55:11,110
It would include quite a bit of

4265
01:55:11,110 --> 01:55:12,290
dense information on what's

4266
01:55:12,290 --> 01:55:13,480
happening in your community.

4267
01:55:13,860 --> 01:55:14,780
In some of our cities, we have

4268
01:55:14,780 --> 01:55:15,680
school lunches.

4269
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:17,620
We have church sermons.

4270
01:55:17,620 --> 01:55:19,650
We have sales and coupons, what's

4271
01:55:19,650 --> 01:55:21,530
happening in the city, as well

4272
01:55:21,530 --> 01:55:22,640
as recreation.

4273
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:23,480
So it's not just arts and

4274
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:24,240
entertainment.

4275
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:25,720
Really dense, what's happening

4276
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:26,730
in the city, but in a much

4277
01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:28,320
broader sense than just aiming.

4278
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:29,980
Now, I haven't noticed a lot of

4279
01:55:29,980 --> 01:55:31,200
ads in CitySearch.

4280
01:55:31,300 --> 01:55:32,210
I mean, what's the business

4281
01:55:32,210 --> 01:55:32,760
model here?

4282
01:55:32,860 --> 01:55:33,700
Yeah, the business model is

4283
01:55:33,700 --> 01:55:34,680
different from most Internet

4284
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:35,200
companies.

4285
01:55:35,420 --> 01:55:36,460
We sell sites to small and

4286
01:55:36,460 --> 01:55:38,400
medium-sized businesses, full

4287
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:39,710
interactive sites, and then we

4288
01:55:39,710 --> 01:55:40,840
host them in this high-traffic

4289
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:41,400
environment.

4290
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:42,760
All right, so your content is

4291
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:44,240
coming primarily from partners

4292
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:45,480
in each of these cities.

4293
01:55:45,580 --> 01:55:46,120
Is that the deal?

4294
01:55:46,500 --> 01:55:47,890
Our content comes from partners

4295
01:55:47,890 --> 01:55:48,880
in some cities.

4296
01:55:49,060 --> 01:55:49,980
Like newspapers?

4297
01:55:50,340 --> 01:55:50,460
Yeah.

4298
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:51,950
We're partnered with the LA

4299
01:55:51,950 --> 01:55:53,580
Times in LA or Washington Post

4300
01:55:53,580 --> 01:55:54,600
in Washington.

4301
01:55:55,060 --> 01:55:55,680
In other cities, we own and

4302
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,020
operate the city ourselves, and

4303
01:55:57,020 --> 01:55:58,210
the content comes from our own

4304
01:55:58,210 --> 01:55:59,180
editorial team.

4305
01:55:59,620 --> 01:56:00,770
All right, how many cities does

4306
01:56:00,770 --> 01:56:02,080
CitySearch cover at the moment?

4307
01:56:02,220 --> 01:56:03,660
We're in 18 cities that are

4308
01:56:03,660 --> 01:56:05,060
either up or underway, and

4309
01:56:05,060 --> 01:56:06,780
those include cities in Europe,

4310
01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:08,420
in Scandinavia, in Canada, as

4311
01:56:08,420 --> 01:56:10,040
well as the South Pacific.

4312
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:11,650
How big does a city have to be

4313
01:56:11,650 --> 01:56:13,170
to economically get it to be a

4314
01:56:13,170 --> 01:56:14,440
CitySearch city?

4315
01:56:14,580 --> 01:56:15,630
I think you're not going to get

4316
01:56:15,630 --> 01:56:17,220
below the top 25 or something?

4317
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:18,320
Actually, we think we can get

4318
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:19,320
smaller than that, although we

4319
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:20,360
don't really know for sure.

4320
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,680
Today, the smallest CitySearch

4321
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:23,600
city is about 750,000 people.

4322
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:24,840
There are many attractive

4323
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:25,380
cities.

4324
01:56:25,820 --> 01:56:27,520
CitySearch still exists,

4325
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:28,460
Matthew.

4326
01:56:28,740 --> 01:56:32,240
Is it CitySearch.com?

4327
01:56:33,740 --> 01:56:34,410
You get below the smallest 350

4328
01:56:34,410 --> 01:56:36,180
or 500,000.

4329
01:56:36,500 --> 01:56:37,570
You've got some competition out

4330
01:56:37,570 --> 01:56:38,040
there.

4331
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:38,870
There are other people sort of

4332
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:39,640
doing similar things.

4333
01:56:40,580 --> 01:56:42,220
What's distinctive about CitySearch?

4334
01:56:42,700 --> 01:56:44,070
CitySearch is genuinely created

4335
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:44,780
locally.

4336
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:46,460
It's not a hodgepodge of links

4337
01:56:46,460 --> 01:56:47,760
to other people's sites.

4338
01:56:48,220 --> 01:56:49,480
It's created by local editors.

4339
01:56:51,540 --> 01:56:54,920
Is CitySearch all one word?

4340
01:56:58,640 --> 01:56:59,980
Design for this medium.

4341
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,840
CitySearch stories.

4342
01:57:14,340 --> 01:57:15,970
That's a bit of a downgrade

4343
01:57:15,970 --> 01:57:17,550
there, unless you go into a

4344
01:57:17,550 --> 01:57:18,880
particular city.

4345
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:21,330
I was hoping to see more than

4346
01:57:21,330 --> 01:57:22,120
that.

4347
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:24,530
But as you said there, it looks

4348
01:57:24,530 --> 01:57:25,320
shite.

4349
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,400
It's more of like a rubbish

4350
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,380
kind of directory now.

4351
01:57:32,540 --> 01:57:34,670
Whereas back in its heyday, it

4352
01:57:34,670 --> 01:57:36,670
was really, really something

4353
01:57:36,670 --> 01:57:37,320
else.

4354
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:38,980
As you can see, a lot of work

4355
01:57:38,980 --> 01:57:40,900
has gone into that website.

4356
01:57:40,900 --> 01:57:42,840
Involving local people.

4357
01:57:43,540 --> 01:57:44,300
Hall of stats.

4358
01:57:44,300 --> 01:57:46,120
Including local media companies.

4359
01:57:46,500 --> 01:57:47,110
Most of the other folks

4360
01:57:47,110 --> 01:57:48,540
actually try and create their

4361
01:57:48,540 --> 01:57:49,470
sites from some central

4362
01:57:49,470 --> 01:57:50,120
location.

4363
01:57:50,660 --> 01:57:51,490
Is there a sort of community

4364
01:57:51,490 --> 01:57:53,480
building aspect also to CitySearch?

4365
01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:54,400
Is there chat?

4366
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:55,950
Are there classifieds and stuff

4367
01:57:55,950 --> 01:57:56,640
like that?

4368
01:57:56,700 --> 01:57:57,180
Yeah, absolutely.

4369
01:57:57,420 --> 01:57:58,040
In fact, there's a lot of

4370
01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:59,100
community in CitySearch.

4371
01:57:59,220 --> 01:58:01,240
We have, in San Francisco alone,

4372
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,670
1,200 community partners who

4373
01:58:03,670 --> 01:58:05,700
put up their calendar of events

4374
01:58:05,700 --> 01:58:06,620
or their newsletter.

4375
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:07,770
Pretty much anything that's

4376
01:58:07,770 --> 01:58:08,720
happening in those local

4377
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:09,620
community groups.

4378
01:58:09,620 --> 01:58:10,410
There, the geography really

4379
01:58:10,410 --> 01:58:11,260
doesn't make a lot of sense.

4380
01:58:11,340 --> 01:58:12,120
You want to talk to people you

4381
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:12,900
can really deal with.

4382
01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:13,120
Exactly.

4383
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:13,840
Not somebody in Europe

4384
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:14,340
somewhere.

4385
01:58:14,340 --> 01:58:15,570
From the Omega Boys Club to the

4386
01:58:15,570 --> 01:58:16,140
Easter Seals.

4387
01:58:16,140 --> 01:58:24,480
The Omega Boys Club to the

4388
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:30,080
Easter Seals.

4389
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,880
The Easter Seals.

4390
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:39,240
Omega Boys Club.

4391
01:58:39,300 --> 01:58:40,340
I don't want to search that.

4392
01:58:41,180 --> 01:58:42,740
Easter Seals.

4393
01:58:44,020 --> 01:58:45,170
I don't know if I want to

4394
01:58:45,170 --> 01:58:46,660
search the Easter Seals.

4395
01:58:49,300 --> 01:58:49,520
Easter Seals Disability and

4396
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,940
Community Services.

4397
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:54,220
Omega Boys.

4398
01:59:00,340 --> 01:59:04,780
Websites?

4399
01:59:04,780 --> 01:59:07,060
At cnptv.com.

4400
01:59:08,260 --> 01:59:10,330
David, Hotbot is a great search

4401
01:59:10,330 --> 01:59:11,460
engine.

4402
01:59:11,500 --> 01:59:11,980
Hotbot.

4403
01:59:13,980 --> 01:59:14,840
Got a hotbot.

4404
01:59:14,940 --> 01:59:16,840
What is it about Hotbot that's

4405
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:18,360
made it so popular?

4406
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,510
That was an interesting push in

4407
01:59:20,510 --> 01:59:21,980
and then zoom out.

4408
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:24,360
One example of it.

4409
01:59:24,740 --> 01:59:26,270
What is it about Hotbot that's

4410
01:59:26,270 --> 01:59:27,660
in lots of awards?

4411
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:28,540
Started there.

4412
01:59:28,540 --> 01:59:29,440
One example of it.

4413
01:59:29,780 --> 01:59:31,600
What is it about Hotbot that's

4414
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:33,220
made it so popular?

4415
01:59:33,580 --> 01:59:35,120
And it's just teasing us here.

4416
01:59:35,180 --> 01:59:36,370
We don't know what he looks

4417
01:59:36,370 --> 01:59:37,770
like yet, but we're going to

4418
01:59:37,770 --> 01:59:38,820
get a reverse angle.

4419
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:40,020
I'm sure of that.

4420
01:59:41,020 --> 01:59:41,180
Yes.

4421
01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:42,760
You're so.

4422
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:44,040
And there we have it.

4423
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,500
The focus of what we do at Hotbot

4424
01:59:45,500 --> 01:59:45,940
is to.

4425
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,460
David underscore Pritchard.

4426
01:59:48,820 --> 01:59:49,480
Ladies and gentlemen.

4427
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:51,410
Focus on the idea of providing

4428
01:59:51,410 --> 01:59:53,090
a better and better search

4429
01:59:53,090 --> 01:59:54,640
service for people.

4430
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:56,870
And that's been our focus since

4431
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:57,680
launch.

4432
01:59:58,360 --> 01:59:59,420
We concentrate on providing

4433
01:59:59,420 --> 02:00:00,660
people with the most

4434
02:00:00,660 --> 02:00:02,640
comprehensive database of the

4435
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:03,060
web.

4436
02:00:03,540 --> 02:00:04,050
That means providing people

4437
02:00:04,050 --> 02:00:04,610
with the most comprehensive web

4438
02:00:04,610 --> 02:00:04,840
pages.

4439
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,040
He might have even been on it

4440
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:06,580
before.

4441
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:08,020
As many web pages as we can.

4442
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:09,270
We provide an index of about

4443
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:10,780
110 million web pages.

4444
02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:12,470
Whereas other search engines

4445
02:00:12,470 --> 02:00:14,480
index smaller slices of the web.

4446
02:00:14,860 --> 02:00:16,420
But more than that, we focus on

4447
02:00:16,420 --> 02:00:18,040
the detail that we index of

4448
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:19,280
those web pages.

4449
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:20,960
What that means that we can do

4450
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:22,900
is allow people to refine their

4451
02:00:22,900 --> 02:00:24,760
search much more accurately.

4452
02:00:25,820 --> 02:00:26,530
For instance, if you were

4453
02:00:26,530 --> 02:00:28,870
looking for information on iMac,

4454
02:00:28,870 --> 02:00:31,040
you could start by searching on

4455
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:31,640
iMac.

4456
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,270
But if you wanted recent

4457
02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:35,380
information, you could bring a

4458
02:00:35,380 --> 02:00:36,870
couple of interesting

4459
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:38,810
situations at the back of the

4460
02:00:38,810 --> 02:00:39,740
room here.

4461
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,100
A bit of a ponytail greaser

4462
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:44,480
with a suit on.

4463
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:47,410
Don't know what his game is or

4464
02:00:47,410 --> 02:00:49,460
what he's about.

4465
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:52,000
Maybe they're from the

4466
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:53,410
university because this would

4467
02:00:53,410 --> 02:00:56,020
have been near enough Stanford.

4468
02:00:56,020 --> 02:00:58,010
I think it's near Stanford

4469
02:00:58,010 --> 02:01:00,490
University Cybersmith Cafe in

4470
02:01:00,490 --> 02:01:01,420
Palo Alto.

4471
02:01:02,420 --> 02:01:04,210
So you'd have a varying and

4472
02:01:04,210 --> 02:01:07,910
wide array of tech, you know,

4473
02:01:07,910 --> 02:01:10,180
types coming in here.

4474
02:01:11,180 --> 02:01:11,780
These are all the guys that are

4475
02:01:11,780 --> 02:01:13,430
probably really rich now, you

4476
02:01:13,430 --> 02:01:15,380
know, the tech titans of today.

4477
02:01:16,420 --> 02:01:18,780
These were up and coming lads.

4478
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:20,560
And he's got like a little file

4479
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:22,350
effects or briefcase with him

4480
02:01:22,350 --> 02:01:23,080
as well.

4481
02:01:24,620 --> 02:01:24,930
If you wanted recent

4482
02:01:24,930 --> 02:01:26,210
information, you could, for

4483
02:01:26,210 --> 02:01:28,210
instance, say, I only want web

4484
02:01:28,210 --> 02:01:29,980
pages that were updated in the

4485
02:01:29,980 --> 02:01:31,360
past 21 days.

4486
02:01:32,020 --> 02:01:33,200
You can easily do that on Hotbot

4487
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:34,860
using pull-down menus.

4488
02:01:35,020 --> 02:01:36,020
So you don't need to know

4489
02:01:36,020 --> 02:01:37,590
complex Boolean instructions to

4490
02:01:37,590 --> 02:01:39,240
construct that sort of query.

4491
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:41,500
Of the high stools.

4492
02:01:42,900 --> 02:01:44,240
And look at all the rigging of

4493
02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:47,250
the equipment that needed to be

4494
02:01:47,250 --> 02:01:48,120
done.

4495
02:01:48,260 --> 02:01:49,610
They make it look like it's a

4496
02:01:49,610 --> 02:01:51,150
nice ad hoc situation, but a

4497
02:01:51,150 --> 02:01:52,620
lot of work went into it.

4498
02:01:52,620 --> 02:01:56,120
It looks so natural here.

4499
02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:57,120
At least for me is that I get a

4500
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:57,780
lot of...

4501
02:01:57,780 --> 02:01:59,430
And as you can see, a couple of

4502
02:01:59,430 --> 02:02:00,440
cyber guides.

4503
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:02,970
Blue shirted cyber guides

4504
02:02:02,970 --> 02:02:05,940
escaping into a side hatch.

4505
02:02:06,060 --> 02:02:07,810
I mean, I often say side hatch

4506
02:02:07,810 --> 02:02:08,340
a lot.

4507
02:02:08,420 --> 02:02:10,260
You might say, you know, you

4508
02:02:10,260 --> 02:02:11,440
don't...

4509
02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,030
It doesn't really warrant the

4510
02:02:13,030 --> 02:02:14,490
usage of the word side hatch

4511
02:02:14,490 --> 02:02:15,920
when you do use it a lot.

4512
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:18,480
But this really is a side hatch

4513
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:20,930
situation because you see it

4514
02:02:20,930 --> 02:02:22,120
flip open.

4515
02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:22,810
That's one of the big things

4516
02:02:22,810 --> 02:02:23,500
about search engines.

4517
02:02:23,500 --> 02:02:24,000
At least for me is that I get a

4518
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:24,380
lot of...

4519
02:02:24,380 --> 02:02:24,880
A couple of cyber guides.

4520
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:25,720
I get a lot of...

4521
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:26,480
Then go through.

4522
02:02:26,820 --> 02:02:28,010
He's after putting a fucking

4523
02:02:28,010 --> 02:02:29,080
note on his back.

4524
02:02:29,660 --> 02:02:30,980
Do you know, as a joke, maybe?

4525
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:32,160
See that?

4526
02:02:34,020 --> 02:02:35,390
Is that like an Easter egg for

4527
02:02:35,390 --> 02:02:37,340
us to witness?

4528
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:38,940
Do you know, with the I'm

4529
02:02:38,940 --> 02:02:40,610
stupid written on a disc or

4530
02:02:40,610 --> 02:02:42,300
something on his back?

4531
02:02:43,340 --> 02:02:43,960
Kick me.

4532
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:46,160
I get a lot of...

4533
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:46,360
Boom.

4534
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:47,980
Look at that.

4535
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:49,830
That's the cyber guides having

4536
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:50,720
a bit of fun.

4537
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:51,380
You know, I tell...

4538
02:02:51,380 --> 02:02:53,320
Type something in.

4539
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:54,680
And I may not...

4540
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:56,520
But that fun could turn nasty

4541
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,410
at some stage, you know, if

4542
02:02:58,410 --> 02:02:59,230
your man doesn't know he's

4543
02:02:59,230 --> 02:02:59,480
being

4544
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:00,280
labeled like that.

4545
02:03:00,380 --> 02:03:01,160
Use the query of...

4546
02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:04,660
Cyber bullying, says Glyn there.

4547
02:03:05,100 --> 02:03:06,360
And we've just...

4548
02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:07,820
We bore witness to it.

4549
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:09,200
So you never really know what

4550
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:10,540
you're likely to see here.

4551
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:11,980
I thought it was just going to

4552
02:03:11,980 --> 02:03:13,320
be a side hatch special.

4553
02:03:13,460 --> 02:03:14,820
I'm a big fan of the side hatch.

4554
02:03:14,900 --> 02:03:15,440
You know that.

4555
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:16,830
I'm always going on about side

4556
02:03:16,830 --> 02:03:18,400
hatch this, side hatch that.

4557
02:03:19,340 --> 02:03:21,160
But it just turns out that when

4558
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:22,980
we do see this particular side

4559
02:03:22,980 --> 02:03:24,680
hatch incident here in the

4560
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:26,810
background, that we have some

4561
02:03:26,810 --> 02:03:29,750
ominous cyber guide cyber

4562
02:03:29,750 --> 02:03:30,940
bullying.

4563
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:34,040
There.

4564
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:35,020
Look at that.

4565
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:36,800
And it looks like it's a CD, so

4566
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:37,720
you'd feel it.

4567
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:38,460
But maybe it's not.

4568
02:03:38,540 --> 02:03:39,700
It's a foily sticker.

4569
02:03:42,140 --> 02:03:43,420
Onto the back hatch.

4570
02:03:43,420 --> 02:03:44,060
Something in.

4571
02:03:44,140 --> 02:03:44,960
I may not use the query

4572
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,260
appropriately or use the right

4573
02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:46,840
language.

4574
02:03:47,140 --> 02:03:47,760
And did...

4575
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:49,150
You can see there a bit of a

4576
02:03:49,150 --> 02:03:50,400
smile, a wry smile.

4577
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:53,420
I think he or she, it's hard to

4578
02:03:53,420 --> 02:03:56,100
really decipher from this

4579
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:57,520
distance.

4580
02:03:57,700 --> 02:04:00,200
And with that level of pixelation

4581
02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:01,240
has...

4582
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:02,640
They know that something's up.

4583
02:04:02,940 --> 02:04:04,050
Did you just stick something on

4584
02:04:04,050 --> 02:04:04,620
me there?

4585
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:06,960
As they were going backstage to

4586
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,330
the coffee dock where there's a

4587
02:04:09,330 --> 02:04:11,750
veritable array of, you know,

4588
02:04:11,750 --> 02:04:14,070
vanilla essence and different

4589
02:04:14,070 --> 02:04:16,320
flavorings for the coffees as

4590
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:16,980
well.

4591
02:04:16,980 --> 02:04:18,020
And then when I do, I get all

4592
02:04:18,020 --> 02:04:19,200
of this irrelevant stuff.

4593
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:20,160
But he hasn't found out yet.

4594
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:21,740
A lot of the features that you

4595
02:04:21,740 --> 02:04:23,240
have allow me to be much more

4596
02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:24,840
precise on my searching.

4597
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:26,350
That's what we're trying to do

4598
02:04:26,350 --> 02:04:27,730
is to find more and more ways

4599
02:04:27,730 --> 02:04:29,820
in which we allow the user to...

4600
02:04:29,820 --> 02:04:30,920
Who's starting off with 110

4601
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:31,560
million webpages.

4602
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:32,420
That's a lot of webpages.

4603
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:32,680
Right.

4604
02:04:32,860 --> 02:04:33,750
And they need to find the sort

4605
02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:34,850
of the two or three out of that

4606
02:04:34,850 --> 02:04:36,220
110 million, the two or three

4607
02:04:36,220 --> 02:04:37,340
that suit their needs.

4608
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,330
And look at this slow zoom out

4609
02:04:40,330 --> 02:04:43,720
and Dutch angle combination.

4610
02:04:45,180 --> 02:04:45,620
In the advanced search page,

4611
02:04:45,620 --> 02:04:47,450
you can easily use it and pull

4612
02:04:47,450 --> 02:04:49,740
down menu that suit their needs.

4613
02:04:50,580 --> 02:04:51,040
And so, for instance, if you

4614
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,460
were interested in knowing what

4615
02:04:52,460 --> 02:04:53,690
people in Africa are saying

4616
02:04:53,690 --> 02:04:54,740
about iMac...

4617
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:56,250
What are people in Africa

4618
02:04:56,250 --> 02:04:57,600
saying about iMac?

4619
02:04:57,620 --> 02:04:58,720
You can easily use it and pull

4620
02:04:58,720 --> 02:04:59,870
down menu, search suggests

4621
02:04:59,870 --> 02:05:00,860
websites in Africa.

4622
02:05:01,180 --> 02:05:02,280
And so the combination of those

4623
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:03,760
features, the fact that we know

4624
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:05,170
a lot of information about

4625
02:05:05,170 --> 02:05:06,260
those pages and that we index

4626
02:05:06,260 --> 02:05:07,620
all of those pages allows us to

4627
02:05:07,620 --> 02:05:08,940
help users to quickly hone in

4628
02:05:08,940 --> 02:05:09,980
on what they do.

4629
02:05:10,220 --> 02:05:11,270
So it seems it's a combination

4630
02:05:11,270 --> 02:05:12,510
of the amount of information

4631
02:05:12,510 --> 02:05:13,900
that you're retrieving and then

4632
02:05:13,900 --> 02:05:14,860
the way in which you're

4633
02:05:14,860 --> 02:05:15,640
searching.

4634
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:16,320
The detail.

4635
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:17,970
So now Hotbot is really focused

4636
02:05:17,970 --> 02:05:19,120
as a search engine.

4637
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:20,290
But, you know, the topic is

4638
02:05:20,290 --> 02:05:21,020
portal sites.

4639
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:22,260
Would you define Hotbot as a

4640
02:05:22,260 --> 02:05:23,520
portal site or just a search

4641
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:24,060
engine?

4642
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:25,060
Hotbot is what one might

4643
02:05:25,060 --> 02:05:26,580
describe as a navigation portal.

4644
02:05:27,700 --> 02:05:30,100
We have some 8 million or so...

4645
02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:32,160
I remember hearing about Hotbot.

4646
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,390
But I doubt it's still going

4647
02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:35,020
now.

4648
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:37,720
Hotbot.

4649
02:05:39,060 --> 02:05:41,440
And again, it's one of those

4650
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:45,380
risky search terms slash clicks.

4651
02:05:45,540 --> 02:05:46,190
You don't know what you're

4652
02:05:46,190 --> 02:05:46,740
going to get.

4653
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,160
If that website has been decommissioned,

4654
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:50,780
who knows what the new Hotbot

4655
02:05:50,780 --> 02:05:51,200
is.

4656
02:05:53,020 --> 02:05:54,500
It's an AI story generator,

4657
02:05:54,500 --> 02:05:55,000
look.

4658
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:57,880
It's an AI situation.

4659
02:05:59,060 --> 02:06:00,050
See, a lot of these old domain

4660
02:06:00,050 --> 02:06:02,340
names that were popular back in

4661
02:06:02,340 --> 02:06:04,610
the day have probably just been

4662
02:06:04,610 --> 02:06:06,860
now co-opted and bought by some

4663
02:06:06,860 --> 02:06:08,220
AI business.

4664
02:06:11,980 --> 02:06:12,670
Or maybe it's just pivoted to

4665
02:06:12,670 --> 02:06:14,780
AI, look.

4666
02:06:15,980 --> 02:06:18,580
Canadian web search engine.

4667
02:06:20,580 --> 02:06:21,580
Hotbot.com.

4668
02:06:21,580 --> 02:06:25,140
Sale of the domain name.

4669
02:06:25,860 --> 02:06:28,180
In 2023, the aforementioned VPN

4670
02:06:28,180 --> 02:06:28,940
company.

4671
02:06:29,460 --> 02:06:29,980
Pivoted.

4672
02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:30,880
Didn't I tell you?

4673
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:31,880
Pivoted.

4674
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:32,580
Take it down.

4675
02:06:33,340 --> 02:06:35,500
Pivoted to offering an AI-based

4676
02:06:35,500 --> 02:06:37,700
web search feature.

4677
02:06:38,580 --> 02:06:40,240
Inspired by, however, not

4678
02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:43,210
officially affiliated with the

4679
02:06:43,210 --> 02:06:47,240
domain's original usage in 1996.

4680
02:06:51,020 --> 02:06:52,740
Lysos owned it.

4681
02:06:52,740 --> 02:06:55,950
Sold the fucker for 155 grand

4682
02:06:55,950 --> 02:06:58,100
to an unnamed buyer.

4683
02:06:59,700 --> 02:07:01,890
Afterwards, the Hotbot domain

4684
02:07:01,890 --> 02:07:03,770
became home to an unrelated

4685
02:07:03,770 --> 02:07:05,580
shopping search site.

4686
02:07:05,580 --> 02:07:09,660
Ending the 20-year history of

4687
02:07:09,660 --> 02:07:12,260
the original site.

4688
02:07:12,260 --> 02:07:13,430
But nobody cared about it

4689
02:07:13,430 --> 02:07:15,120
because in 2018, the same

4690
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:16,720
domain was put under new

4691
02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:17,380
ownership and became an

4692
02:07:17,380 --> 02:07:18,780
unrelated privacy-focused

4693
02:07:18,780 --> 02:07:19,320
search.

4694
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:25,690
Then 2020, the hotbot domain is

4695
02:07:25,690 --> 02:07:29,560
controlled by a VPN company

4696
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:33,680
based in the Seychelles.

4697
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,460
And now it's pivoted.

4698
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:36,720
Take it down.

4699
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:37,960
Pivoted to AI.

4700
02:07:38,340 --> 02:07:39,460
I'm not going to click on it.

4701
02:07:40,940 --> 02:07:41,740
AI search.

4702
02:07:41,940 --> 02:07:43,830
How are you going to compete

4703
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:46,390
with the big boys of Google and

4704
02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:47,240
whoever else?

4705
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:48,230
I don't think that's going to

4706
02:07:48,230 --> 02:07:49,180
work out well for them.

4707
02:07:49,180 --> 02:07:51,680
I wouldn't be surprised if in a

4708
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:53,790
few months' time after the

4709
02:07:53,790 --> 02:07:55,630
proposed AI crash, we see

4710
02:07:55,630 --> 02:07:57,970
another entry here in the sale

4711
02:07:57,970 --> 02:07:59,800
of the domain name.

4712
02:07:59,900 --> 02:08:03,090
And the saga of hotbot.com will

4713
02:08:03,090 --> 02:08:05,080
continue at pace.

4714
02:08:08,580 --> 02:08:10,260
Unique users that come to hotbot

4715
02:08:10,260 --> 02:08:11,440
in any given month.

4716
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:12,930
And the focus of the service

4717
02:08:12,930 --> 02:08:14,560
that we're providing to those

4718
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:16,400
people is navigation, allowing

4719
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:17,950
them to find their way around

4720
02:08:17,950 --> 02:08:18,660
the web.

4721
02:08:20,220 --> 02:08:20,910
The number one rated search

4722
02:08:20,910 --> 02:08:22,640
engine, Justin.

4723
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:24,650
So this is 98, even before

4724
02:08:24,650 --> 02:08:26,660
Google had become the big, big

4725
02:08:26,660 --> 02:08:27,480
player.

4726
02:08:27,700 --> 02:08:28,790
That's at the core of what we

4727
02:08:28,790 --> 02:08:29,120
do.

4728
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:30,560
We do provide other services

4729
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:32,000
for people, like we provide

4730
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:33,320
free email for people.

4731
02:08:33,500 --> 02:08:34,270
We also allow people to

4732
02:08:34,270 --> 02:08:35,880
construct their own 10 pages.

4733
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:35,900
You had hotbot.

4734
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:38,200
You had askjeeves.com.

4735
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:39,420
Lysos.

4736
02:08:40,180 --> 02:08:40,920
Alta Vista.

4737
02:08:41,420 --> 02:08:43,070
But Google, you know, all those

4738
02:08:43,070 --> 02:08:45,390
websites that I just mentioned

4739
02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:46,780
there, they all had these

4740
02:08:46,780 --> 02:08:48,740
fucking web pages that looked

4741
02:08:48,740 --> 02:08:49,660
like this.

4742
02:08:49,660 --> 02:08:51,510
But Google just had a search

4743
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:53,500
bar and the word Google on it,

4744
02:08:53,500 --> 02:08:55,260
which set it apart from the

4745
02:08:55,260 --> 02:08:55,840
rest.

4746
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:58,010
They knew that the algorithm

4747
02:08:58,010 --> 02:09:00,220
they had spoke for itself.

4748
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:01,310
Allow people to construct their

4749
02:09:01,310 --> 02:09:01,960
own homepages.

4750
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:03,130
They didn't have to fucking add

4751
02:09:03,130 --> 02:09:04,400
all these whistles and bells.

4752
02:09:05,140 --> 02:09:06,610
But the focus of what we're

4753
02:09:06,610 --> 02:09:08,290
doing is to provide users with

4754
02:09:08,290 --> 02:09:09,780
a richer and richer search

4755
02:09:09,780 --> 02:09:10,760
experience.

4756
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:12,700
So if you would compare Yahoo,

4757
02:09:12,700 --> 02:09:14,770
Excite, Lycos, and all of these

4758
02:09:14,770 --> 02:09:16,700
other portal sites, and you'd

4759
02:09:16,700 --> 02:09:18,950
say, okay, well, how does Hotbot

4760
02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:19,860
compare?

4761
02:09:20,060 --> 02:09:21,030
It's the focus on the search

4762
02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:21,540
engine.

4763
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:22,220
Is that...

4764
02:09:22,220 --> 02:09:23,360
That's what really sets us

4765
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:23,800
apart.

4766
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:25,230
Both in our minds, so that

4767
02:09:25,230 --> 02:09:26,590
informs our strategy as a

4768
02:09:26,590 --> 02:09:28,410
company, but also, I think, in

4769
02:09:28,410 --> 02:09:29,680
the minds of users.

4770
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:31,310
And when they...the people that

4771
02:09:31,310 --> 02:09:32,990
use Hotbot say that they really

4772
02:09:32,990 --> 02:09:34,700
appreciate that we continue to

4773
02:09:34,700 --> 02:09:36,370
focus on providing people with

4774
02:09:36,370 --> 02:09:37,900
the best search engine.

4775
02:09:37,940 --> 02:09:39,480
We've got an interface that

4776
02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:41,220
really focuses around the idea

4777
02:09:41,220 --> 02:09:42,760
of helping people navigate

4778
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:44,230
their way around the web,

4779
02:09:44,230 --> 02:09:45,930
providing what are sometimes

4780
02:09:45,930 --> 02:09:47,500
complex search tools.

4781
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,130
But in an interface that's very

4782
02:09:49,130 --> 02:09:49,960
easy to use.

4783
02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:51,070
So the beginners on the web

4784
02:09:51,070 --> 02:09:52,410
like to use Hotbot because they

4785
02:09:52,410 --> 02:09:53,630
can use these pull-down menus

4786
02:09:53,630 --> 02:09:55,360
and point-and-click interfaces.

4787
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:57,520
The advanced users, people who

4788
02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:58,650
are themselves building

4789
02:09:58,650 --> 02:09:59,860
websites, like to use this

4790
02:09:59,860 --> 02:10:01,170
because we provide an array of

4791
02:10:01,170 --> 02:10:02,230
tools that allow them to

4792
02:10:02,230 --> 02:10:03,560
quickly find the information

4793
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:05,040
that they're looking for.

4794
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:06,450
So the ultimate navigation

4795
02:10:06,450 --> 02:10:06,960
portal.

4796
02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:08,720
Music fade up.

4797
02:10:10,020 --> 02:10:10,620
All right, Larry Maggots back

4798
02:10:10,620 --> 02:10:12,240
with us here at Cybers.

4799
02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:13,600
And it's great to see the Maggots

4800
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:14,360
man himself.

4801
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:16,380
Larry Maggots back to tell us

4802
02:10:16,380 --> 02:10:18,200
about some tech stuff.

4803
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:19,070
I'm talking about portals,

4804
02:10:19,070 --> 02:10:19,750
Larry, and a couple of

4805
02:10:19,750 --> 02:10:20,610
questions I'd want to ask you

4806
02:10:20,610 --> 02:10:21,200
from...

4807
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:22,900
And in this case, portals.

4808
02:10:22,900 --> 02:10:23,880
The user's point of view,

4809
02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:24,460
number one.

4810
02:10:25,180 --> 02:10:26,470
You know, if I'm using Netscape,

4811
02:10:26,470 --> 02:10:28,020
it defaults, I end up in NetCenter.

4812
02:10:28,740 --> 02:10:29,640
Do I lose something as a user

4813
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,180
by just staying there?

4814
02:10:31,300 --> 02:10:32,850
Or should I go off to the Yahoo's

4815
02:10:32,850 --> 02:10:34,060
or someplace else?

4816
02:10:34,180 --> 02:10:35,390
Well, it's not that you lose

4817
02:10:35,390 --> 02:10:36,060
anything.

4818
02:10:36,140 --> 02:10:37,370
It's just that you're sort of

4819
02:10:37,370 --> 02:10:38,980
corralled into Netscape's

4820
02:10:38,980 --> 02:10:39,940
definition of what they want

4821
02:10:39,940 --> 02:10:40,580
you to see.

4822
02:10:40,660 --> 02:10:41,540
And, you know, these portals

4823
02:10:41,540 --> 02:10:42,410
are controlled by business

4824
02:10:42,410 --> 02:10:43,140
relationships.

4825
02:10:43,300 --> 02:10:44,540
I hate to break it to the world.

4826
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:46,230
But it's no accident that one

4827
02:10:46,230 --> 02:10:48,160
particular computer network or

4828
02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:50,040
one particular news service is

4829
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:50,820
on there.

4830
02:10:51,340 --> 02:10:52,770
And so what you're really

4831
02:10:52,770 --> 02:10:54,740
losing is the variety of the myriad

4832
02:10:54,740 --> 02:10:56,720
of material that's on the web.

4833
02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:58,020
So don't be necessarily content

4834
02:10:58,020 --> 02:10:59,260
with just using that default

4835
02:10:59,260 --> 02:11:00,220
portal, if you will.

4836
02:11:00,220 --> 02:11:01,210
Right. I would not only go to

4837
02:11:01,210 --> 02:11:02,280
other portals, but I would also

4838
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:03,220
seek out sites directly.

4839
02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:04,530
I mean, seek out the really

4840
02:11:04,530 --> 02:11:05,960
interesting news sites.

4841
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:07,500
Get in there and type your WWs.

4842
02:11:07,500 --> 02:11:10,250
And do the searches. The portals

4843
02:11:10,250 --> 02:11:14,380
will take you to interesting

4844
02:11:14,380 --> 02:11:16,000
places.

4845
02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:17,060
Last point. You mentioned the

4846
02:11:17,060 --> 02:11:17,760
business answer.

4847
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:19,250
Last point already. We've only

4848
02:11:19,250 --> 02:11:20,600
just got to fucking Larry.

4849
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,550
We want a good three-minute

4850
02:11:22,550 --> 02:11:24,040
Larry chunk here.

4851
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:26,280
We don't want in and out within

4852
02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:27,920
a minute and a half.

4853
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:29,400
This is a good guest.

4854
02:11:30,300 --> 02:11:31,460
Thank you very much. Feast of

4855
02:11:31,460 --> 02:11:32,820
Immaculate Channel.

4856
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:34,420
Very kind of you there.

4857
02:11:34,740 --> 02:11:35,720
It concerns me a bit.

4858
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:36,540
And some of us who remember...

4859
02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:37,500
Are you out of purgatory?

4860
02:11:37,700 --> 02:11:38,920
I haven't checked yet.

4861
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:40,100
But I will.

4862
02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:42,040
Maybe I'll just check right now

4863
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:43,720
and see if my channel still has

4864
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:44,940
the strike on it.

4865
02:11:44,940 --> 02:11:48,230
If I go into studio mode on the

4866
02:11:48,230 --> 02:11:51,950
YouTube site there, it should

4867
02:11:51,950 --> 02:11:53,140
tell me.

4868
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:54,780
Studio mode.

4869
02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:58,100
Bear with me here.

4870
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:00,450
If you go to studio and then

4871
02:12:00,450 --> 02:12:01,800
dashboard.

4872
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:02,820
And I have...

4873
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:05,560
Yeah, there is no warning on it.

4874
02:12:05,860 --> 02:12:06,880
There is no warning on it.

4875
02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:08,950
The channel is back in fully

4876
02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:10,080
good stead.

4877
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:12,960
Thank you so much for everybody

4878
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:15,500
for your continued support

4879
02:12:15,500 --> 02:12:18,880
throughout that terrible period

4880
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,360
where I was under the cosh.

4881
02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:24,490
Damocles of YouTube re-education

4882
02:12:24,490 --> 02:12:26,200
program hanging over the

4883
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:27,100
channel.

4884
02:12:27,420 --> 02:12:28,530
And now it seems that

4885
02:12:28,530 --> 02:12:30,900
everything is fine and working

4886
02:12:30,900 --> 02:12:31,800
to scratch.

4887
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:33,390
And I think maybe people were

4888
02:12:33,390 --> 02:12:34,930
getting annoyed there that I

4889
02:12:34,930 --> 02:12:35,960
was streaming.

4890
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:37,680
Or at least Fontaine was.

4891
02:12:38,380 --> 02:12:39,520
Not so long ago.

4892
02:12:40,300 --> 02:12:41,800
The Thanksgiving Day Parade.

4893
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:44,610
I think it's my two cents is

4894
02:12:44,610 --> 02:12:47,130
that if you're streaming an

4895
02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:49,290
Associated Press or a Reuters

4896
02:12:49,290 --> 02:12:51,830
feed or whatever news agency is

4897
02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:54,270
doing something live like the

4898
02:12:54,270 --> 02:12:56,420
Robotics World Cup over in

4899
02:12:56,420 --> 02:12:58,780
China a few months ago.

4900
02:12:58,780 --> 02:13:01,160
I think when it's something

4901
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:02,340
like that.

4902
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:05,060
Now correct me if I'm wrong.

4903
02:13:05,340 --> 02:13:07,710
But I don't think the algorithm

4904
02:13:07,710 --> 02:13:08,580
can sense.

4905
02:13:09,860 --> 02:13:10,220
Because that content is

4906
02:13:10,220 --> 02:13:11,810
happening live on those

4907
02:13:11,810 --> 02:13:13,900
channels and then it's going on

4908
02:13:13,900 --> 02:13:15,280
live on mine say.

4909
02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:17,120
I don't think they can tell

4910
02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:19,010
because they don't have the

4911
02:13:19,010 --> 02:13:19,680
data.

4912
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:21,920
The data still hasn't been

4913
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,480
uploaded and stored as a viable

4914
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:26,880
video which they can content

4915
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:28,160
match then.

4916
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:29,060
Do you know?

4917
02:13:29,420 --> 02:13:30,840
The only way that you'll get

4918
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:32,320
done I think is if you're

4919
02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:34,370
actually really going after the

4920
02:13:34,370 --> 02:13:36,270
big boys and rebroadcasting a

4921
02:13:36,270 --> 02:13:38,800
legacy media television station.

4922
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:40,600
Or a football soccer game or

4923
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:42,080
something like that.

4924
02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:43,280
Whereby.

4925
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:44,920
Those lads.

4926
02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:46,720
I don't know how they do it.

4927
02:13:47,260 --> 02:13:48,740
But they have the money.

4928
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:49,740
They have deep pockets.

4929
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:51,740
And they're able to content

4930
02:13:51,740 --> 02:13:53,180
match on the fly.

4931
02:13:54,300 --> 02:13:56,420
And that's happened before with

4932
02:13:56,420 --> 02:13:57,280
DAZN.

4933
02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:58,180
Got multiple.

4934
02:13:59,460 --> 02:14:00,530
Copyright strikes for something

4935
02:14:00,530 --> 02:14:01,440
like that.

4936
02:14:01,540 --> 02:14:03,380
Not strikes but I got something.

4937
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:04,670
Something happened like you

4938
02:14:04,670 --> 02:14:05,080
know.

4939
02:14:06,020 --> 02:14:07,740
But when it's a newscast.

4940
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:09,620
Of some robots kicking a

4941
02:14:09,620 --> 02:14:11,200
fucking football in China.

4942
02:14:11,560 --> 02:14:11,920
Live.

4943
02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:13,620
I think that's.

4944
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:14,950
I don't think they have the

4945
02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:16,340
tech available to be able to

4946
02:14:16,340 --> 02:14:17,420
fucking do that.

4947
02:14:17,540 --> 02:14:17,720
You know.

4948
02:14:17,900 --> 02:14:19,190
I could be wrong but up until

4949
02:14:19,190 --> 02:14:19,740
now it.

4950
02:14:19,940 --> 02:14:21,080
It doesn't seem to have.

4951
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:22,100
Had.

4952
02:14:22,220 --> 02:14:23,910
I didn't get any problems with

4953
02:14:23,910 --> 02:14:24,860
that stuff.

4954
02:14:24,940 --> 02:14:25,120
You know.

4955
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:26,780
That said.

4956
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:27,300
I do.

4957
02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:28,310
I would have just got rid of

4958
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:29,440
the video straight away.

4959
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:31,000
Remember the Grammys there.

4960
02:14:31,220 --> 02:14:31,660
Last year.

4961
02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:32,960
Even the Grammys live stream.

4962
02:14:33,060 --> 02:14:34,910
But that wasn't an official

4963
02:14:34,910 --> 02:14:35,700
Grammy.

4964
02:14:36,620 --> 02:14:37,060
Joint.

4965
02:14:37,580 --> 02:14:38,280
That would have been.

4966
02:14:38,340 --> 02:14:39,840
Reuters at the Grammys.

4967
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:42,380
Or Associated Press at the Grammys.

4968
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:42,680
You know.

4969
02:14:42,740 --> 02:14:44,160
It's a third party content

4970
02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:45,040
situation.

4971
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:46,120
So.

4972
02:14:46,660 --> 02:14:46,920
You know.

4973
02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:48,180
It is what it is.

4974
02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:48,960
I think still.

4975
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:50,500
Some of the stuff does fall

4976
02:14:50,500 --> 02:14:51,880
within the remit of.

4977
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:53,900
Of fair use.

4978
02:14:53,980 --> 02:14:55,000
If you're stopping it.

4979
02:14:55,220 --> 02:14:56,640
And saying stuff about it.

4980
02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:57,080
And criticizing.

4981
02:14:57,800 --> 02:14:59,080
But you're up against robots.

4982
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:00,060
You know.

4983
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:01,020
They might not even.

4984
02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:03,280
It won't even get to that level.

4985
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:04,360
Of.

4986
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:05,400
Of discussion.

4987
02:15:05,700 --> 02:15:06,260
With a robot.

4988
02:15:06,440 --> 02:15:07,440
Robot will just kill you.

4989
02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:10,640
But we're okay.

4990
02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:12,200
We're doing fine now anyways.

4991
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:13,830
Remember the populous days of

4992
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:14,460
the web.

4993
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:15,880
And as for Net Cafe.

4994
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:18,800
And as for Computer Chronicles.

4995
02:15:19,220 --> 02:15:20,260
That's public domain.

4996
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:21,700
That's Stuart Shafé.

4997
02:15:22,220 --> 02:15:23,820
You see all the adverts within.

4998
02:15:24,020 --> 02:15:24,200
You know.

4999
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:25,880
Buy the tape for 32 quid.

5000
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:27,140
We've got the Shafé letter.

5001
02:15:28,140 --> 02:15:29,500
There would have been product

5002
02:15:29,500 --> 02:15:30,420
placement in it.

5003
02:15:30,820 --> 02:15:31,740
He would have made.

5004
02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:33,260
The money and just thought.

5005
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:33,640
Fuck it.

5006
02:15:33,700 --> 02:15:33,880
You know.

5007
02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:35,560
You can watch all those shows.

5008
02:15:35,860 --> 02:15:37,410
Are we televisionizing the web

5009
02:15:37,410 --> 02:15:37,880
now?

5010
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:38,980
We're going to see five or six.

5011
02:15:39,380 --> 02:15:40,340
The next thing.

5012
02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:42,340
On the horizon.

5013
02:15:42,540 --> 02:15:42,800
Would be.

5014
02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:44,410
If he's ever asked about doing

5015
02:15:44,410 --> 02:15:44,740
it.

5016
02:15:44,900 --> 02:15:45,780
Would be to then.

5017
02:15:46,100 --> 02:15:47,060
Redigitize.

5018
02:15:47,980 --> 02:15:49,540
Using new technology.

5019
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:50,520
To upscale.

5020
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:52,720
All the original tapes.

5021
02:15:54,180 --> 02:15:54,440
You know.

5022
02:15:54,580 --> 02:15:55,600
That would be fantastic.

5023
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:57,460
That really would be fantastic.

5024
02:15:57,820 --> 02:15:58,840
But that's not going to happen.

5025
02:15:58,960 --> 02:15:59,880
For a good few years.

5026
02:15:59,880 --> 02:16:00,480
I don't think.

5027
02:16:01,300 --> 02:16:02,000
Until it's.

5028
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:03,240
Really old media.

5029
02:16:03,800 --> 02:16:04,900
And people see the.

5030
02:16:04,980 --> 02:16:05,760
The worth in it.

5031
02:16:06,180 --> 02:16:07,340
The worth in doing that.

5032
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:08,340
No one's going to do that.

5033
02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:09,640
It would be a.

5034
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:09,940
You know.

5035
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:10,680
4K.

5036
02:16:11,220 --> 02:16:12,660
4K computer chronicles.

5037
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:13,300
You know.

5038
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:14,840
We can only dream.

5039
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:16,420
Of that level of detail.

5040
02:16:16,820 --> 02:16:17,360
It'd be like.

5041
02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:18,600
Watching it all again.

5042
02:16:18,660 --> 02:16:19,380
For the first time.

5043
02:16:19,700 --> 02:16:21,100
And seeing so much.

5044
02:16:21,740 --> 02:16:22,520
Detail in it.

5045
02:16:24,160 --> 02:16:25,440
It's the stuff of dreams.

5046
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:25,940
Like you know.

5047
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:26,760
But I don't think that's going

5048
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:26,980
to.

5049
02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:28,180
We mightn't see it in our

5050
02:16:28,180 --> 02:16:28,860
lifetime.

5051
02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:30,820
What is interesting.

5052
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:31,340
Is that.

5053
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:33,640
In maybe 20 or 30 years.

5054
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:36,600
There'll be decent enough.

5055
02:16:37,060 --> 02:16:38,180
Films and stuff.

5056
02:16:38,460 --> 02:16:40,020
That have lost their.

5057
02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:41,280
You know.

5058
02:16:41,300 --> 02:16:42,080
After a hundred years.

5059
02:16:42,180 --> 02:16:42,560
I think you.

5060
02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:44,240
That the copyright goes then.

5061
02:16:44,300 --> 02:16:45,200
And you can fucking use it.

5062
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:45,860
The same way that.

5063
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:47,420
People can use like.

5064
02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:48,180
Mickey Mouse.

5065
02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:49,440
Is image.

5066
02:16:49,980 --> 02:16:51,060
From Steamboat Willie.

5067
02:16:51,640 --> 02:16:53,420
Because that's an old situation.

5068
02:16:53,580 --> 02:16:54,040
And I think.

5069
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:55,500
There's another cartoon.

5070
02:16:55,740 --> 02:16:56,240
Coming out.

5071
02:16:56,480 --> 02:16:56,980
Soon enough.

5072
02:16:57,080 --> 02:16:57,960
Or that's going to break.

5073
02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:58,640
A hundred years.

5074
02:16:58,980 --> 02:16:59,820
And people are going to be able.

5075
02:16:59,820 --> 02:17:00,960
To use images of like.

5076
02:17:01,540 --> 02:17:01,820
I don't know.

5077
02:17:01,900 --> 02:17:02,240
Garfield.

5078
02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:02,800
I can't remember.

5079
02:17:02,980 --> 02:17:03,900
What the fucking cartoon is.

5080
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:04,840
Not Garfield anyway.

5081
02:17:04,940 --> 02:17:05,560
It's something else.

5082
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:06,620
But.

5083
02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:08,420
Interesting times.

5084
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:09,440
For the future.

5085
02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:10,380
Do you know.

5086
02:17:10,700 --> 02:17:11,300
Maybe potentially.

5087
02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:11,800
I'd still.

5088
02:17:12,020 --> 02:17:12,480
Hopefully.

5089
02:17:12,620 --> 02:17:13,520
If I'm still here.

5090
02:17:13,960 --> 02:17:15,240
And I've used the software.

5091
02:17:15,420 --> 02:17:16,330
That we've seen on the previous

5092
02:17:16,330 --> 02:17:16,800
episode.

5093
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:18,180
I've made my will and testament.

5094
02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:18,800
And all that stuff.

5095
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:19,520
But hopefully.

5096
02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:20,580
I'm still around.

5097
02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:22,340
In the future.

5098
02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:24,120
To be able to live stream.

5099
02:17:24,320 --> 02:17:24,640
As.

5100
02:17:25,460 --> 02:17:25,820
You know.

5101
02:17:25,880 --> 02:17:27,440
An old age pensioner.

5102
02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:29,420
Watching movies.

5103
02:17:30,300 --> 02:17:31,440
Without any worry.

5104
02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:32,300
About copyright.

5105
02:17:32,540 --> 02:17:32,980
Whatsoever.

5106
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:35,700
You know.

5107
02:17:36,460 --> 02:17:37,820
Looking forward to that day.

5108
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:38,840
If it ever happens.

5109
02:17:39,060 --> 02:17:39,960
Hopefully it does happen.

5110
02:17:39,960 --> 02:17:41,080
Works called portals.

5111
02:17:41,180 --> 02:17:42,760
And big corporate control.

5112
02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:44,040
Over what we do in the world.

5113
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:44,580
Well in a sense.

5114
02:17:44,660 --> 02:17:45,120
We are in a sense.

5115
02:17:45,180 --> 02:17:45,680
We're not in a sense.

5116
02:17:45,680 --> 02:17:46,240
We're television.

5117
02:17:46,420 --> 02:17:46,680
I think.

5118
02:17:46,780 --> 02:17:47,180
And the thing that.

5119
02:17:47,500 --> 02:17:48,760
That the popular sites.

5120
02:17:48,760 --> 02:17:49,520
Are going to be few and far

5121
02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:49,920
between.

5122
02:17:50,120 --> 02:17:50,160
Yeah.

5123
02:17:50,420 --> 02:17:51,660
But there are still going to be.

5124
02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:52,080
Thousands.

5125
02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:52,820
In fact millions.

5126
02:17:52,820 --> 02:17:53,760
Of websites out there.

5127
02:17:53,860 --> 02:17:54,540
And there are not.

5128
02:17:54,620 --> 02:17:55,720
Millions of television stations.

5129
02:17:55,840 --> 02:17:56,000
Yeah.

5130
02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:56,780
Choices there.

5131
02:17:56,860 --> 02:17:57,100
Yeah.

5132
02:17:57,100 --> 02:17:58,040
To seek it out now.

5133
02:17:58,300 --> 02:17:58,520
Larry.

5134
02:17:58,600 --> 02:17:58,960
Thank you.

5135
02:17:59,040 --> 02:17:59,380
My pleasure.

5136
02:17:59,840 --> 02:18:01,040
It's a fast Larry.

5137
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:02,410
I don't like it when it's a

5138
02:18:02,410 --> 02:18:03,080
fast Larry.

5139
02:18:03,420 --> 02:18:04,900
It needs to be a good.

5140
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:06,600
Solid.

5141
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:08,080
Larry.

5142
02:18:08,380 --> 02:18:09,000
And it was just.

5143
02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:09,760
And look at that.

5144
02:18:09,940 --> 02:18:11,520
Blue steel there from DeVries.

5145
02:18:11,780 --> 02:18:12,360
We've seen him.

5146
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:12,800
And that's.

5147
02:18:13,020 --> 02:18:15,620
The shades of the current DeVries.

5148
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:16,980
In there.

5149
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:19,220
Sort of a Chris Hansen.

5150
02:18:20,580 --> 02:18:21,940
Vibe about him as well.

5151
02:18:22,540 --> 02:18:24,040
The shades of the.

5152
02:18:24,660 --> 02:18:26,320
The video that we've seen.

5153
02:18:26,840 --> 02:18:28,220
Of himself there.

5154
02:18:28,340 --> 02:18:29,720
When he's gone about reprobates.

5155
02:18:31,300 --> 02:18:32,380
Today we're going to discuss.

5156
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:34,090
Sorry there for blasting the

5157
02:18:34,090 --> 02:18:34,700
audio.

5158
02:18:35,340 --> 02:18:36,180
But you can see.

5159
02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:38,920
He's there.

5160
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:39,740
And he's.

5161
02:18:40,960 --> 02:18:41,420
You know.

5162
02:18:41,460 --> 02:18:41,840
Time.

5163
02:18:42,340 --> 02:18:43,140
Has passed.

5164
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:44,560
And now he's here.

5165
02:18:44,640 --> 02:18:45,580
We got a close up.

5166
02:18:45,640 --> 02:18:46,900
We got a closer shot of him

5167
02:18:46,900 --> 02:18:47,460
there.

5168
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:49,620
We don't.

5169
02:18:49,700 --> 02:18:50,920
But there's some nice imagery

5170
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:51,320
there.

5171
02:18:51,500 --> 02:18:52,780
Of a load of dollar bills.

5172
02:18:56,260 --> 02:18:57,000
Best price.

5173
02:18:57,320 --> 02:18:58,300
They may lack the project.

5174
02:18:58,500 --> 02:18:58,960
Oh, it's best.

5175
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:00,460
In the shortest time possible.

5176
02:19:00,680 --> 02:19:02,140
And for the best price.

5177
02:19:02,860 --> 02:19:04,640
Lovely animation there.

5178
02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:05,860
Yeah.

5179
02:19:05,900 --> 02:19:07,240
So it's a Chris Hansen.

5180
02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:08,160
Slash.

5181
02:19:09,820 --> 02:19:10,260
Horatio.

5182
02:19:10,740 --> 02:19:12,240
From CSI.

5183
02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:14,480
He's about to put the shades on.

5184
02:19:17,420 --> 02:19:18,200
Lovely stuff.

5185
02:19:19,020 --> 02:19:20,040
Net Cafe site.

5186
02:19:20,480 --> 02:19:22,320
CNPCV.com.

5187
02:19:23,720 --> 02:19:24,540
Justin Hall.

5188
02:19:24,720 --> 02:19:26,300
You are somewhat of a visionary.

5189
02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:27,520
At least I think with the in

5190
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:28,480
crowd of the web.

5191
02:19:28,660 --> 02:19:29,060
Oh wow.

5192
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:30,020
And I'm going to give you that

5193
02:19:30,020 --> 02:19:30,600
title anyway.

5194
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:31,100
Oh wow.

5195
02:19:31,220 --> 02:19:32,650
And you created I think one of

5196
02:19:32,650 --> 02:19:33,380
the first.

5197
02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:34,630
We could say it was a portal

5198
02:19:34,630 --> 02:19:35,100
site.

5199
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:35,640
Kind of.

5200
02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:36,400
And we haven't.

5201
02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:38,220
We haven't gone for the full.

5202
02:19:39,140 --> 02:19:41,760
Frontal shot of Mr. Hall here.

5203
02:19:41,860 --> 02:19:42,520
But we have.

5204
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:46,520
The voyeuristic CCTV angle.

5205
02:19:47,300 --> 02:19:48,490
And he does a funny little

5206
02:19:48,490 --> 02:19:50,500
thing with his hand here.

5207
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:51,780
You created I think one of the

5208
02:19:51,780 --> 02:19:52,240
first.

5209
02:19:52,260 --> 02:19:53,140
Don't know what that means.

5210
02:19:53,260 --> 02:19:54,130
I'm going to give you that

5211
02:19:54,130 --> 02:19:54,700
title anyway.

5212
02:19:55,260 --> 02:19:56,470
And you created I think one of

5213
02:19:56,470 --> 02:19:57,340
the first.

5214
02:19:57,480 --> 02:19:58,590
We could say it was a portal

5215
02:19:58,590 --> 02:19:59,060
site.

5216
02:19:59,140 --> 02:20:00,480
Kind of back in the web's

5217
02:20:00,480 --> 02:20:01,380
beginning.

5218
02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:03,020
Links to the underground.

5219
02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:04,180
Or links from the underground.

5220
02:20:04,180 --> 02:20:04,500
Okay.

5221
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:07,080
Yeah that was January 1994.

5222
02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:07,980
And what it was.

5223
02:20:07,980 --> 02:20:08,700
He's a young fella.

5224
02:20:09,060 --> 02:20:09,840
Justin Hall.

5225
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:11,040
And when I was surfing.

5226
02:20:11,140 --> 02:20:11,940
I was coming across all this

5227
02:20:11,940 --> 02:20:12,280
stuff.

5228
02:20:12,340 --> 02:20:13,060
And I didn't know if other

5229
02:20:13,060 --> 02:20:13,920
people were seeing it.

5230
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:15,200
So it was kind of a one man

5231
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:16,760
portal in 1994.

5232
02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:17,540
It was kind of.

5233
02:20:17,540 --> 02:20:18,400
So it was a list basically.

5234
02:20:18,820 --> 02:20:20,120
Of links that you like.

5235
02:20:20,220 --> 02:20:20,940
There was value add.

5236
02:20:21,020 --> 02:20:22,200
There was content going on.

5237
02:20:22,260 --> 02:20:23,290
Because I would commentate on

5238
02:20:23,290 --> 02:20:23,800
the links.

5239
02:20:23,960 --> 02:20:24,900
And you would find that there

5240
02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:25,480
was a niche.

5241
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:26,900
Thank you very much there.

5242
02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:28,180
Lovely jumper.

5243
02:20:28,620 --> 02:20:29,600
And John Wayne.

5244
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:30,940
Thank you very much there.

5245
02:20:31,620 --> 02:20:32,760
For the tip.

5246
02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:33,740
Congrats on completing.

5247
02:20:33,740 --> 02:20:34,800
Your global corporation

5248
02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:35,380
assigned.

5249
02:20:35,500 --> 02:20:36,700
Re-education program.

5250
02:20:36,960 --> 02:20:37,600
All hail.

5251
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:39,380
Our tech overlords.

5252
02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:40,000
It was out there.

5253
02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:40,900
It wasn't.

5254
02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:42,420
It had a slant to it.

5255
02:20:42,500 --> 02:20:43,980
And it had a guiding function.

5256
02:20:44,120 --> 02:20:44,640
Provided.

5257
02:20:44,820 --> 02:20:45,420
In that if you.

5258
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:47,360
If your taste correlated with

5259
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:47,940
mine.

5260
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:49,340
I've just seen a great name.

5261
02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:50,300
That passed.

5262
02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:51,940
Might have passed us by there.

5263
02:20:52,420 --> 02:20:53,120
If you're.

5264
02:20:53,220 --> 02:20:54,020
Unless you're an eagle eye

5265
02:20:54,020 --> 02:20:54,440
cherry.

5266
02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:56,920
Jesse Stackgold.

5267
02:20:57,560 --> 02:20:58,080
Sarah.

5268
02:20:58,460 --> 02:20:59,500
Stackgold Sarah.

5269
02:20:59,960 --> 02:21:00,560
Hyphenated.

5270
02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:02,000
At MIT.

5271
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:08,040
Notoriously underrepresented.

5272
02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:09,080
Provided.

5273
02:21:09,080 --> 02:21:09,640
Provided.

5274
02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:10,440
In that if you.

5275
02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:12,430
If your taste correlated with

5276
02:21:12,430 --> 02:21:13,000
mine.

5277
02:21:13,140 --> 02:21:13,720
You would find.

5278
02:21:14,380 --> 02:21:14,760
Satisfying results.

5279
02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:15,460
Satisfying results.

5280
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:16,880
And that was one of the first

5281
02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:17,240
sites.

5282
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:18,460
That by my recollection.

5283
02:21:18,540 --> 02:21:19,640
To do something like that.

5284
02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:20,810
And obviously other folks have

5285
02:21:20,810 --> 02:21:21,240
come in.

5286
02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:22,540
And around the same time.

5287
02:21:22,700 --> 02:21:24,360
And now they're big business.

5288
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:25,600
And portals.

5289
02:21:25,700 --> 02:21:26,940
And all this crazy terms going

5290
02:21:26,940 --> 02:21:27,240
on.

5291
02:21:28,020 --> 02:21:28,520
Well I don't know if I was a

5292
02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:29,120
portal.

5293
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:30,270
Because one of the things that

5294
02:21:30,270 --> 02:21:31,400
I think is really exciting.

5295
02:21:31,400 --> 02:21:32,580
About the portals today.

5296
02:21:32,940 --> 02:21:34,580
Is that they really do.

5297
02:21:34,960 --> 02:21:35,830
Strive to match you up with

5298
02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:36,720
other people.

5299
02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:38,110
A study came out from Carnegie

5300
02:21:38,110 --> 02:21:39,520
Mellon University today.

5301
02:21:39,660 --> 02:21:40,640
Saying that web surfing.

5302
02:21:41,140 --> 02:21:41,580
And internet.

5303
02:21:41,720 --> 02:21:42,320
Time on the internet.

5304
02:21:42,420 --> 02:21:43,620
Is a depressing activity.

5305
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:43,900
Like.

5306
02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:44,840
You know I saw that.

5307
02:21:44,860 --> 02:21:45,200
That's right.

5308
02:21:45,260 --> 02:21:46,160
If you do that you will end up.

5309
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:47,440
I saw that.

5310
02:21:48,060 --> 02:21:49,100
They're on about portals.

5311
02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:49,720
I still.

5312
02:21:49,860 --> 02:21:50,930
I know we're 20 minutes into

5313
02:21:50,930 --> 02:21:51,760
the episode here.

5314
02:21:51,860 --> 02:21:52,580
70 minutes.

5315
02:21:52,580 --> 02:21:53,720
I'm still not sure.

5316
02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:55,100
What a fucking portal is.

5317
02:21:55,540 --> 02:21:55,780
People.

5318
02:21:56,020 --> 02:21:57,210
A study came out from Carnegie

5319
02:21:57,210 --> 02:21:58,640
Mellon University today.

5320
02:21:58,760 --> 02:21:59,740
Saying that web surfing.

5321
02:22:00,260 --> 02:22:00,680
And internet.

5322
02:22:00,820 --> 02:22:01,420
Time on the internet.

5323
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:02,720
Is a depressing activity.

5324
02:22:02,920 --> 02:22:03,020
Like.

5325
02:22:03,160 --> 02:22:03,940
You know I saw that.

5326
02:22:03,960 --> 02:22:04,300
That's right.

5327
02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:04,840
If you do that.

5328
02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:05,760
You will end up just a little

5329
02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:06,540
bit more depressed.

5330
02:22:06,660 --> 02:22:07,780
Than you were before you got on.

5331
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:08,420
And so I think.

5332
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:09,200
What people.

5333
02:22:09,500 --> 02:22:10,890
Will you be thinking of getting

5334
02:22:10,890 --> 02:22:11,820
a warzone win.

5335
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:13,760
For the Omega boys at Christmas.

5336
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:15,200
Minister.

5337
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:17,840
Maybe I missed the name.

5338
02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:18,700
Art McGee.

5339
02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:19,800
Back there.

5340
02:22:20,660 --> 02:22:22,400
On that stick gold.

5341
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:26,960
Art McGee's last.

5342
02:22:27,160 --> 02:22:27,820
Art McGee.

5343
02:22:28,660 --> 02:22:30,300
Is another great name there.

5344
02:22:30,420 --> 02:22:30,840
What was it?

5345
02:22:30,940 --> 02:22:31,400
Stack gold.

5346
02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:32,840
Jesse Stickgold.

5347
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:33,080
Sarah.

5348
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:33,980
I beg your pardon.

5349
02:22:34,820 --> 02:22:36,120
And Art McGee.

5350
02:22:36,700 --> 02:22:38,660
Somebody says they're nicknamed.

5351
02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:40,020
The other folks have come in.

5352
02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:41,300
And around the same time.

5353
02:22:41,480 --> 02:22:43,180
And now they're big business.

5354
02:22:43,400 --> 02:22:44,380
And portals.

5355
02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:45,690
And all this crazy terms going

5356
02:22:45,690 --> 02:22:46,000
on.

5357
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:47,360
Well I don't know if I was at

5358
02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:47,880
Portal.

5359
02:22:47,960 --> 02:22:48,620
Because one of the things.

5360
02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:50,160
That I think is really exciting.

5361
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:51,360
About the portals today.

5362
02:22:51,540 --> 02:22:52,080
Is that.

5363
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:52,900
They really.

5364
02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:55,080
Really exciting about the portals.

5365
02:22:55,260 --> 02:22:56,640
Do strive to match you up with

5366
02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:57,580
other people.

5367
02:22:57,840 --> 02:22:59,000
A study came out from Carnegie

5368
02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:00,420
Mellon University today.

5369
02:23:00,540 --> 02:23:01,520
Saying that web surfing.

5370
02:23:02,020 --> 02:23:02,460
And internet.

5371
02:23:02,620 --> 02:23:03,200
Time on the internet.

5372
02:23:03,300 --> 02:23:04,500
Is a depressing activity.

5373
02:23:04,740 --> 02:23:04,800
Like.

5374
02:23:04,940 --> 02:23:05,720
You know I saw that.

5375
02:23:05,720 --> 02:23:06,080
That's right.

5376
02:23:06,140 --> 02:23:06,620
If you do that.

5377
02:23:06,660 --> 02:23:07,540
You will end up just a little

5378
02:23:07,540 --> 02:23:08,320
bit more depressed.

5379
02:23:08,500 --> 02:23:09,540
Than you were before you got on.

5380
02:23:09,640 --> 02:23:10,180
And so I think.

5381
02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:11,020
It's true.

5382
02:23:11,020 --> 02:23:11,720
We're trying to do that.

5383
02:23:11,720 --> 02:23:13,140
To remedy this.

5384
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:14,860
Is to hook people up.

5385
02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:15,660
Instant messaging.

5386
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:16,240
Email.

5387
02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:16,960
All this stuff.

5388
02:23:17,080 --> 02:23:17,920
Get people online.

5389
02:23:18,020 --> 02:23:18,860
Personal web pages.

5390
02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:20,540
They're not really selling us.

5391
02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:20,880
You know.

5392
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:22,420
Telling us out the box there.

5393
02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:23,460
That it's a depressing.

5394
02:23:24,280 --> 02:23:25,060
Thing to be doing.

5395
02:23:25,140 --> 02:23:25,820
Going on the internet.

5396
02:23:25,960 --> 02:23:26,320
The show.

5397
02:23:26,440 --> 02:23:27,460
The show's geared towards

5398
02:23:27,460 --> 02:23:27,960
people.

5399
02:23:28,020 --> 02:23:28,940
Who are going on the internet.

5400
02:23:28,940 --> 02:23:30,000
Was the problem with links.

5401
02:23:30,180 --> 02:23:32,580
To links.net.

5402
02:23:32,660 --> 02:23:33,320
Links from the underground.

5403
02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:34,340
Was that it.

5404
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:35,580
It was a solo activity.

5405
02:23:35,660 --> 02:23:36,400
I was doing all this.

5406
02:23:36,500 --> 02:23:37,400
But people would write in.

5407
02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:38,450
And I had nowhere to put their

5408
02:23:38,450 --> 02:23:38,860
stuff.

5409
02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:39,550
And I knew that all these

5410
02:23:39,550 --> 02:23:39,920
people.

5411
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:40,740
Were buzzing around it.

5412
02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:41,840
But there was no way for them.

5413
02:23:41,840 --> 02:23:42,780
To kind of get together.

5414
02:23:42,860 --> 02:23:43,900
And talk about what was going

5415
02:23:43,900 --> 02:23:44,160
on.

5416
02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:44,440
And so.

5417
02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:44,540
Okay.

5418
02:23:44,580 --> 02:23:45,280
Now I get a sense.

5419
02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:46,060
You're leading into.

5420
02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:46,840
I'm leading into.

5421
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:47,800
Your new site here.

5422
02:23:47,800 --> 02:23:48,080
That's right.

5423
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:48,480
Okay.

5424
02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:49,440
Which is more permeable.

5425
02:23:49,620 --> 02:23:50,360
Which is what's exciting.

5426
02:23:50,580 --> 02:23:52,260
Because it's just a structure.

5427
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:53,320
And a lot of other people.

5428
02:23:53,460 --> 02:23:54,580
Have built what's actually.

5429
02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:55,500
You know.

5430
02:23:55,500 --> 02:23:56,000
The walls.

5431
02:23:56,140 --> 02:23:56,640
If it's a building.

5432
02:23:56,740 --> 02:23:57,760
I put up the framework.

5433
02:23:57,880 --> 02:23:58,920
Everybody else did the stuff.

5434
02:23:59,000 --> 02:23:59,920
That's inside of it.

5435
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:01,080
So let's start with the name.

5436
02:24:01,380 --> 02:24:02,440
Bud.com.

5437
02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:03,880
What does Bud.com mean?

5438
02:24:03,880 --> 02:24:04,820
It's extremely short.

5439
02:24:05,140 --> 02:24:06,440
Sounds like they said Bud.com.

5440
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:07,820
But it's Bud.com.

5441
02:24:07,960 --> 02:24:08,320
Memorable.

5442
02:24:09,020 --> 02:24:09,420
Friendly.

5443
02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:09,700
Right.

5444
02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:09,980
I mean.

5445
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:11,100
It has the.

5446
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:11,860
It's memorable.

5447
02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:12,600
It's friendly.

5448
02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:13,820
It's a friendly site.

5449
02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:14,960
It's nice and friendly.

5450
02:24:15,960 --> 02:24:17,000
Bud.com.

5451
02:24:17,820 --> 02:24:19,080
Is it still going?

5452
02:24:22,300 --> 02:24:23,980
It's always a risky one.

5453
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:24,360
Isn't it?

5454
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:25,220
We don't know.

5455
02:24:25,860 --> 02:24:26,120
Yeah.

5456
02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:26,500
It's.

5457
02:24:26,540 --> 02:24:28,110
It's exactly as you think it

5458
02:24:28,110 --> 02:24:28,820
would be.

5459
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:31,980
It's a weed site.

5460
02:24:33,740 --> 02:24:35,000
Selling Gange.

5461
02:24:36,820 --> 02:24:37,420
Probably.

5462
02:24:37,660 --> 02:24:38,820
Vape pens.

5463
02:24:39,780 --> 02:24:40,880
And THC.

5464
02:24:40,960 --> 02:24:41,680
Ah flower.

5465
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:43,280
Grinders.

5466
02:24:43,940 --> 02:24:44,720
Lava cake.

5467
02:24:44,880 --> 02:24:45,640
Delta eight.

5468
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:46,600
Moon rocks.

5469
02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:48,980
With the obligatory.

5470
02:24:49,180 --> 02:24:50,560
Take me to your dealer.

5471
02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:52,280
Stoner alien.

5472
02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:53,920
From area.

5473
02:24:54,120 --> 02:24:54,840
Fifty one.

5474
02:24:55,660 --> 02:25:00,040
Big stones.

5475
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:01,340
It says.

5476
02:25:02,340 --> 02:25:03,240
Moon dust.

5477
02:25:05,460 --> 02:25:06,320
Or you can get yourself a bag

5478
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:08,540
of happy nights.

5479
02:25:08,880 --> 02:25:09,460
With a Z.

5480
02:25:10,120 --> 02:25:12,020
And then a few other.

5481
02:25:12,280 --> 02:25:13,440
Follow up Zeds.

5482
02:25:14,120 --> 02:25:15,380
To create the.

5483
02:25:15,380 --> 02:25:16,260
The sleep.

5484
02:25:16,820 --> 02:25:17,440
Sign.

5485
02:25:17,540 --> 02:25:18,240
The sleep signal.

5486
02:25:18,580 --> 02:25:19,120
Of Zeds.

5487
02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:21,400
And there's some blood moon

5488
02:25:21,400 --> 02:25:21,940
orange.

5489
02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:22,840
Happy nights.

5490
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:25,040
Delta nine plus CBD.

5491
02:25:26,180 --> 02:25:28,580
200 milligram blood moons.

5492
02:25:30,580 --> 02:25:31,620
Melatonin.

5493
02:25:32,040 --> 02:25:33,680
Plus delta nine.

5494
02:25:34,540 --> 02:25:35,560
Happy days.

5495
02:25:36,400 --> 02:25:37,260
Limited edition.

5496
02:25:38,740 --> 02:25:40,300
Or how about this.

5497
02:25:40,380 --> 02:25:42,500
Get yourself a bag of Piff Raider.

5498
02:25:43,500 --> 02:25:44,960
F2 Piff Raider.

5499
02:25:45,500 --> 02:25:46,880
Or West Coast.

5500
02:25:47,380 --> 02:25:48,680
Golden Haze.

5501
02:25:50,680 --> 02:25:51,150
Do you want a bag of fucking

5502
02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:53,020
polar bears man?

5503
02:25:54,880 --> 02:25:55,880
Have you got any of that marine

5504
02:25:55,880 --> 02:25:57,320
layer left?

5505
02:25:59,320 --> 02:26:00,840
Fucking anxiety on it.

5506
02:26:02,180 --> 02:26:03,720
My head's wrecked from all that

5507
02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:05,110
fucking marine layer you gave

5508
02:26:05,110 --> 02:26:05,480
me.

5509
02:26:07,980 --> 02:26:08,050
Might just take the edge off

5510
02:26:08,050 --> 02:26:10,790
with a bit of jungle cake delta

5511
02:26:10,790 --> 02:26:12,020
nine hash.

5512
02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:13,880
Infused pre-roll.

5513
02:26:13,880 --> 02:26:16,660
And then you've got a temple

5514
02:26:16,660 --> 02:26:17,520
ball.

5515
02:26:18,060 --> 02:26:18,780
Pressed.

5516
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:21,380
Hashman do.

5517
02:26:22,060 --> 02:26:22,460
Hitman.

5518
02:26:22,460 --> 02:26:24,060
By none other.

5519
02:26:24,620 --> 02:26:26,020
Than Hitman Hash.

5520
02:26:31,660 --> 02:26:32,700
Hitman Hash.

5521
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:35,280
It's like a killer has entered

5522
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:36,500
your brain.

5523
02:26:38,500 --> 02:26:40,360
And he's fucking taking you out.

5524
02:26:41,660 --> 02:26:42,430
And then you've got all your

5525
02:26:42,430 --> 02:26:43,760
accessories.

5526
02:26:44,580 --> 02:26:45,020
Merch.

5527
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:46,260
If you really want to.

5528
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:48,100
Advertise the fact that you're

5529
02:26:48,100 --> 02:26:49,020
a drug user.

5530
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:51,880
Rolling Derby.

5531
02:26:51,880 --> 02:26:54,580
Hash.

5532
02:26:54,940 --> 02:26:56,410
Just going around with a shirt

5533
02:26:56,410 --> 02:26:57,860
that says Hash on it.

5534
02:26:59,420 --> 02:27:00,120
You'll definitely be the toast

5535
02:27:00,120 --> 02:27:02,120
of the town wearing that.

5536
02:27:03,820 --> 02:27:04,340
Smoke.

5537
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:06,280
Fuego.

5538
02:27:06,600 --> 02:27:07,820
I wonder were Lego.

5539
02:27:08,740 --> 02:27:09,880
Consulted about that.

5540
02:27:10,660 --> 02:27:11,890
It's hard to really imagine

5541
02:27:11,890 --> 02:27:12,920
they were.

5542
02:27:13,820 --> 02:27:15,580
Or even North Face.

5543
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:17,040
Blunt.

5544
02:27:17,440 --> 02:27:18,700
To the face.

5545
02:27:20,700 --> 02:27:22,080
Blunt to the face.

5546
02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:25,440
And the list goes on and on.

5547
02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:29,140
A stoner astronaut.

5548
02:27:29,140 --> 02:27:29,280
A stoner astronaut.

5549
02:27:30,900 --> 02:27:32,160
Locked to his chair.

5550
02:27:33,500 --> 02:27:34,540
And I don't know what's with

5551
02:27:34,540 --> 02:27:35,840
the skulls.

5552
02:27:36,040 --> 02:27:36,340
Like you know.

5553
02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:37,960
The kind of.

5554
02:27:38,620 --> 02:27:40,030
Linking it to a sort of death

5555
02:27:40,030 --> 02:27:40,780
state.

5556
02:27:42,320 --> 02:27:43,780
Whatever it is you're smoking.

5557
02:27:43,780 --> 02:27:44,990
Or whatever it is that you're

5558
02:27:44,990 --> 02:27:45,280
on.

5559
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:47,220
You're just going to be like.

5560
02:27:47,340 --> 02:27:48,550
You're as good as a fucking

5561
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:49,080
skull.

5562
02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:49,920
On a couch.

5563
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:50,900
On a chair.

5564
02:27:52,140 --> 02:27:53,390
But you've got a space suit on

5565
02:27:53,390 --> 02:27:54,380
as well.

5566
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:55,300
Taking up space.

5567
02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:56,220
It's a laugh.

5568
02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:57,700
It's a fun and friendly way.

5569
02:27:58,160 --> 02:27:59,920
To show that you do use drugs.

5570
02:27:59,980 --> 02:28:00,280
You know.

5571
02:28:00,540 --> 02:28:01,460
And hi again.

5572
02:28:01,660 --> 02:28:02,060
Again.

5573
02:28:02,060 --> 02:28:03,140
I'm not sure whether or not.

5574
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:03,600
Heineken.

5575
02:28:04,400 --> 02:28:05,020
Could even.

5576
02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:06,860
Launch a successful suit.

5577
02:28:06,940 --> 02:28:08,240
Because it might actually be.

5578
02:28:09,780 --> 02:28:10,980
It might have.

5579
02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:12,940
Just twisted it enough.

5580
02:28:13,060 --> 02:28:13,940
That it doesn't.

5581
02:28:14,940 --> 02:28:15,560
Encroach.

5582
02:28:15,700 --> 02:28:16,520
On any copyright.

5583
02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:19,460
Just doobit.

5584
02:28:20,320 --> 02:28:21,880
The Nike swoosh.

5585
02:28:22,180 --> 02:28:24,320
Which has turned into a joint.

5586
02:28:25,140 --> 02:28:25,560
There.

5587
02:28:25,700 --> 02:28:26,780
Doesn't really make sense.

5588
02:28:26,900 --> 02:28:27,260
Because.

5589
02:28:28,940 --> 02:28:30,340
It's like the Nike swoosh.

5590
02:28:30,340 --> 02:28:31,140
Has started there.

5591
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:32,440
And then that's the end of the

5592
02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:32,940
joint.

5593
02:28:33,060 --> 02:28:33,840
You'd think the end of the

5594
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:34,220
joint.

5595
02:28:34,220 --> 02:28:34,980
Would be there.

5596
02:28:35,180 --> 02:28:36,080
And then you smoke.

5597
02:28:36,140 --> 02:28:37,460
At the beginning of the swoosh.

5598
02:28:39,040 --> 02:28:40,080
Doesn't make sense.

5599
02:28:40,160 --> 02:28:40,480
But I mean.

5600
02:28:40,540 --> 02:28:41,660
I don't really think.

5601
02:28:41,960 --> 02:28:43,080
Any purveyors.

5602
02:28:43,220 --> 02:28:44,140
Of such merch.

5603
02:28:45,020 --> 02:28:46,040
Or any merchants.

5604
02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:46,880
Would be.

5605
02:28:47,120 --> 02:28:47,940
That bothered.

5606
02:28:48,040 --> 02:28:48,580
About that.

5607
02:28:48,620 --> 02:28:48,940
To be honest.

5608
02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:50,200
If you've made the leap.

5609
02:28:50,300 --> 02:28:51,340
To buying that shirt.

5610
02:28:51,420 --> 02:28:52,160
For $19.

5611
02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:54,720
I don't think.

5612
02:28:54,780 --> 02:28:56,280
Your critical faculties.

5613
02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:57,260
Are really going.

5614
02:28:57,260 --> 02:28:58,180
To be stretched.

5615
02:28:58,720 --> 02:28:59,600
So far.

5616
02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:00,680
As to really.

5617
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:01,100
Go.

5618
02:29:01,220 --> 02:29:01,700
Do you know what.

5619
02:29:01,700 --> 02:29:03,020
It doesn't really make sense.

5620
02:29:06,140 --> 02:29:07,180
Smoking doinks.

5621
02:29:07,860 --> 02:29:09,040
For Dunkin Donuts.

5622
02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:11,580
And there's.

5623
02:29:11,660 --> 02:29:12,580
There's a lot of stuff.

5624
02:29:12,680 --> 02:29:13,220
There as well.

5625
02:29:13,300 --> 02:29:14,300
Some Christmas stuff.

5626
02:29:14,440 --> 02:29:15,020
For the season.

5627
02:29:15,140 --> 02:29:15,640
That's in it.

5628
02:29:17,480 --> 02:29:17,880
Marijuana.

5629
02:29:17,880 --> 02:29:21,080
And look at that.

5630
02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:24,220
Family would love that.

5631
02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:25,350
If you turned up to Christmas

5632
02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:25,980
Day dinner.

5633
02:29:26,680 --> 02:29:27,560
With that.

5634
02:29:28,300 --> 02:29:28,660
You know.

5635
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:29,440
Wearing that.

5636
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:31,060
How.

5637
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:31,940
How are things.

5638
02:29:32,300 --> 02:29:32,620
Hi.

5639
02:29:33,480 --> 02:29:33,940
How are.

5640
02:29:34,060 --> 02:29:34,400
Grand.

5641
02:29:34,960 --> 02:29:35,400
Grandma.

5642
02:29:35,620 --> 02:29:36,200
Granddad.

5643
02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:37,120
How are things.

5644
02:29:37,120 --> 02:29:38,660
And your cousins.

5645
02:29:38,860 --> 02:29:39,440
That you haven't seen.

5646
02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:39,980
For a while.

5647
02:29:41,360 --> 02:29:41,980
You just.

5648
02:29:41,980 --> 02:29:42,560
You're wearing.

5649
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:43,440
You're wearing Santa Claus.

5650
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:45,520
Getting baked.

5651
02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:47,760
And then it's just.

5652
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:49,520
It devolves into a meme.

5653
02:29:49,880 --> 02:29:50,400
Realm.

5654
02:29:50,880 --> 02:29:51,220
Jumper.

5655
02:29:51,320 --> 02:29:51,760
Christmas.

5656
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:52,960
Jumper.

5657
02:29:53,320 --> 02:29:53,880
Situation.

5658
02:29:54,100 --> 02:29:55,000
I haven't seen any.

5659
02:29:55,080 --> 02:29:55,780
AI stuff.

5660
02:29:55,940 --> 02:29:56,480
But then again.

5661
02:29:56,480 --> 02:29:57,180
It might be.

5662
02:29:57,300 --> 02:29:58,460
That might be an AI.

5663
02:29:59,400 --> 02:29:59,840
Situation.

5664
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:01,500
You know.

5665
02:30:01,580 --> 02:30:02,120
Hanging out.

5666
02:30:02,220 --> 02:30:03,120
Eating Christmas dinner.

5667
02:30:05,780 --> 02:30:06,720
Wearing that.

5668
02:30:10,220 --> 02:30:11,760
But that's Bud.com.

5669
02:30:12,380 --> 02:30:12,720
It's.

5670
02:30:12,780 --> 02:30:13,620
It's amazing to see.

5671
02:30:13,720 --> 02:30:14,960
The way these things develop.

5672
02:30:14,960 --> 02:30:15,440
Isn't it?

5673
02:30:15,740 --> 02:30:15,980
You know.

5674
02:30:16,020 --> 02:30:16,860
It started off.

5675
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:17,620
As a nice.

5676
02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:19,800
Airplanes are dangerous.

5677
02:30:19,940 --> 02:30:20,300
Phobia.

5678
02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:21,360
Provoking machines.

5679
02:30:21,460 --> 02:30:22,220
Whose primary purpose.

5680
02:30:22,300 --> 02:30:23,000
Is the nefarious.

5681
02:30:23,440 --> 02:30:23,820
And dangerous.

5682
02:30:23,900 --> 02:30:24,340
The physical.

5683
02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:25,200
Properties.

5684
02:30:25,300 --> 02:30:25,900
Given the government.

5685
02:30:26,280 --> 02:30:27,240
Doesn't have anything.

5686
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:28,240
To do with weed.

5687
02:30:30,240 --> 02:30:31,080
The stuff.

5688
02:30:31,160 --> 02:30:32,080
That's inside of it.

5689
02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:33,300
And let's start with the name.

5690
02:30:33,580 --> 02:30:34,580
Bud.com.

5691
02:30:34,780 --> 02:30:36,060
What does Bud.com mean?

5692
02:30:36,060 --> 02:30:36,500
It's extremely.

5693
02:30:36,500 --> 02:30:37,060
Thank you very much.

5694
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:38,180
Choo Choo Magoo.

5695
02:30:38,260 --> 02:30:38,660
Short.

5696
02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:39,360
Memorable.

5697
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:40,520
Friendly.

5698
02:30:40,600 --> 02:30:40,760
Right.

5699
02:30:40,840 --> 02:30:41,060
I mean.

5700
02:30:41,420 --> 02:30:42,520
It has a multitude.

5701
02:30:42,700 --> 02:30:43,460
It's friendly.

5702
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:44,080
Of meaning.

5703
02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:45,640
So it's a kind of common word.

5704
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:46,620
In a different community.

5705
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:46,980
And no.

5706
02:30:47,020 --> 02:30:48,840
No lawsuits from Anheuser-Busch.

5707
02:30:49,020 --> 02:30:49,140
For that.

5708
02:30:49,160 --> 02:30:49,300
No.

5709
02:30:49,380 --> 02:30:50,620
They offered me money for it.

5710
02:30:50,660 --> 02:30:51,580
A couple years ago.

5711
02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:52,100
And I said.

5712
02:30:52,200 --> 02:30:52,580
I wasn't interested.

5713
02:30:52,580 --> 02:30:52,960
So I mean.

5714
02:30:53,060 --> 02:30:54,200
It could have been a Budweiser

5715
02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:54,840
situation.

5716
02:30:54,940 --> 02:30:56,340
It was on all my business cards.

5717
02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:57,020
It's.

5718
02:30:57,420 --> 02:30:58,120
I'm getting.

5719
02:30:58,220 --> 02:30:58,720
I'm getting.

5720
02:30:58,720 --> 02:31:00,300
Fucking deja vu here.

5721
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:03,960
But I swear.

5722
02:31:04,280 --> 02:31:04,500
I could.

5723
02:31:04,580 --> 02:31:05,570
I don't think I've ever seen

5724
02:31:05,570 --> 02:31:06,300
this episode.

5725
02:31:06,420 --> 02:31:06,660
But I.

5726
02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:07,220
I don't know.

5727
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:08,480
I'm just getting deja vu there.

5728
02:31:08,860 --> 02:31:09,660
Manheuser-Busch.

5729
02:31:09,780 --> 02:31:12,880
The Budweiser boys.

5730
02:31:13,200 --> 02:31:13,800
Smart move.

5731
02:31:13,960 --> 02:31:14,900
Maybe they were mentioned

5732
02:31:14,900 --> 02:31:15,440
before.

5733
02:31:15,580 --> 02:31:16,620
In some other capacity.

5734
02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:17,100
I think.

5735
02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:17,820
It's short.

5736
02:31:17,940 --> 02:31:18,260
And it's.

5737
02:31:18,340 --> 02:31:18,580
You know.

5738
02:31:18,620 --> 02:31:19,140
It's got some.

5739
02:31:19,720 --> 02:31:20,520
Personality to it.

5740
02:31:20,580 --> 02:31:21,400
But it's also like.

5741
02:31:21,460 --> 02:31:22,200
A young plant.

5742
02:31:22,340 --> 02:31:22,520
Okay.

5743
02:31:22,520 --> 02:31:22,600
Right.

5744
02:31:22,600 --> 02:31:23,410
If you want to take it at this

5745
02:31:23,410 --> 02:31:23,760
point.

5746
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:24,060
Okay.

5747
02:31:24,060 --> 02:31:24,740
And you're.

5748
02:31:24,740 --> 02:31:24,760
Bud.

5749
02:31:24,760 --> 02:31:25,820
Bud.com is right now.

5750
02:31:26,440 --> 02:31:26,520
Yeah.

5751
02:31:26,520 --> 02:31:27,400
Now tell me though.

5752
02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:28,200
You say.

5753
02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:29,850
You've got a community aspect

5754
02:31:29,850 --> 02:31:30,340
to it.

5755
02:31:30,340 --> 02:31:31,160
This is the moment.

5756
02:31:31,520 --> 02:31:32,770
He had the idea to get into

5757
02:31:32,770 --> 02:31:33,780
real estate.

5758
02:31:35,060 --> 02:31:35,500
There.

5759
02:31:35,780 --> 02:31:36,700
Says Calvin.

5760
02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:37,820
At this moment.

5761
02:31:37,940 --> 02:31:39,340
In this particular interview.

5762
02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:40,020
And you can tell.

5763
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:40,220
He's.

5764
02:31:40,260 --> 02:31:41,240
He's too clean cut.

5765
02:31:41,940 --> 02:31:43,210
He's too much of a hot prospect

5766
02:31:43,210 --> 02:31:44,040
for the future.

5767
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:44,280
To.

5768
02:31:44,360 --> 02:31:45,200
To remain.

5769
02:31:45,860 --> 02:31:46,920
Tethered to this.

5770
02:31:46,980 --> 02:31:48,040
Netcafé show.

5771
02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:48,440
What.

5772
02:31:48,500 --> 02:31:49,480
What are you doing that.

5773
02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:49,840
You know.

5774
02:31:49,900 --> 02:31:50,680
Is maybe bringing people

5775
02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:51,280
together now.

5776
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:52,560
That the other site didn't do.

5777
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:52,760
Well.

5778
02:31:52,820 --> 02:31:53,680
I think if you look at the

5779
02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:54,780
front page of Bud.com.

5780
02:31:54,860 --> 02:31:55,360
You see that.

5781
02:31:55,900 --> 02:31:56,900
You don't even know who put it

5782
02:31:56,900 --> 02:31:57,680
together.

5783
02:31:58,120 --> 02:31:59,460
To know that I put it together.

5784
02:31:59,460 --> 02:32:00,340
You'd have to go to my other

5785
02:32:00,340 --> 02:32:00,760
web page.

5786
02:32:00,860 --> 02:32:01,380
So it's.

5787
02:32:01,380 --> 02:32:02,240
It's an open structure.

5788
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:03,160
It's not branded.

5789
02:32:03,380 --> 02:32:04,480
It's not got a name.

5790
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:05,580
Other than its own entity.

5791
02:32:05,940 --> 02:32:06,980
And when you go to that entity.

5792
02:32:07,140 --> 02:32:07,700
You're seeing.

5793
02:32:08,020 --> 02:32:08,820
Names of all the people.

5794
02:32:09,700 --> 02:32:09,900
Oh.

5795
02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:10,960
1998.

5796
02:32:11,540 --> 02:32:12,820
Osama bin Laden.

5797
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:14,460
Class of 85.

5798
02:32:18,040 --> 02:32:18,880
Look at that.

5799
02:32:20,200 --> 02:32:20,920
A prelude.

5800
02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:22,260
Even before.

5801
02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:23,340
He had done.

5802
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:25,830
That crazy fucking thing that

5803
02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:26,640
he did.

5804
02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:30,120
He was a hyper link.

5805
02:32:30,440 --> 02:32:31,000
Hyper text.

5806
02:32:31,140 --> 02:32:32,460
Markup language link.

5807
02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:35,560
On a weird site called Bud.com.

5808
02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:37,910
So we're coming full circle

5809
02:32:37,910 --> 02:32:38,620
here.

5810
02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:39,660
Do you know.

5811
02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:40,900
This once.

5812
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:41,320
You know.

5813
02:32:41,380 --> 02:32:42,530
We're laughing at some of the

5814
02:32:42,530 --> 02:32:43,140
products.

5815
02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:44,140
That they have here.

5816
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:46,660
Zaza slut.

5817
02:32:47,900 --> 02:32:48,300
And.

5818
02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:50,220
Weed in the wrestling font.

5819
02:32:51,320 --> 02:32:51,480
But.

5820
02:32:51,860 --> 02:32:52,640
Little known fact.

5821
02:32:52,720 --> 02:32:53,480
Back in the day.

5822
02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:55,480
This site had something about

5823
02:32:55,480 --> 02:32:56,720
bin Laden on it.

5824
02:32:56,860 --> 02:32:58,200
Before he'd even done.

5825
02:32:58,740 --> 02:33:00,080
The fucking bad thing.

5826
02:33:02,220 --> 02:33:02,620
But he was being built up

5827
02:33:02,620 --> 02:33:03,800
anyway.

5828
02:33:03,900 --> 02:33:04,080
You know.

5829
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:05,980
He was being.

5830
02:33:06,940 --> 02:33:07,420
Primed.

5831
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:08,120
Shall we say.

5832
02:33:08,180 --> 02:33:09,780
Because I remember even in 1998.

5833
02:33:10,140 --> 02:33:10,480
Maybe.

5834
02:33:10,700 --> 02:33:11,400
Hearing about him.

5835
02:33:12,140 --> 02:33:12,520
Then.

5836
02:33:13,700 --> 02:33:14,560
So he wasn't.

5837
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:15,560
He wasn't like a.

5838
02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:17,130
It wasn't a fresh new name on

5839
02:33:17,130 --> 02:33:17,940
the scene.

5840
02:33:18,020 --> 02:33:19,140
When 9-11 happened.

5841
02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:19,840
It was like.

5842
02:33:19,960 --> 02:33:20,500
All right.

5843
02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:21,460
That's that book.

5844
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:22,700
That was going on about a few

5845
02:33:22,700 --> 02:33:23,360
years ago.

5846
02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:26,020
When they did an airstrike.

5847
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:27,060
I think.

5848
02:33:27,180 --> 02:33:28,100
Out in North Africa.

5849
02:33:28,260 --> 02:33:29,260
Or somewhere like that.

5850
02:33:29,260 --> 02:33:31,300
I remember Bill Clinton.

5851
02:33:31,300 --> 02:33:32,220
Being on the telly.

5852
02:33:32,460 --> 02:33:32,860
Going.

5853
02:33:33,380 --> 02:33:33,780
Today.

5854
02:33:33,940 --> 02:33:35,360
We've done some airstrikes.

5855
02:33:36,180 --> 02:33:36,380
Blah.

5856
02:33:36,400 --> 02:33:36,500
Blah.

5857
02:33:36,540 --> 02:33:36,840
Blah.

5858
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:38,560
It's this bin Laden guy.

5859
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:41,580
And then he came on the scene.

5860
02:33:41,780 --> 02:33:41,900
You know.

5861
02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:42,920
I don't need to tell you what

5862
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:43,640
happened next.

5863
02:33:43,760 --> 02:33:44,980
We all know what happened there.

5864
02:33:45,060 --> 02:33:45,400
Don't we.

5865
02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:46,580
In the stuff that comprises.

5866
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:47,120
Bud.com.

5867
02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:48,100
So there's links out to the.

5868
02:33:48,380 --> 02:33:49,380
And saving.

5869
02:33:50,020 --> 02:33:51,180
Private Ryan's.

5870
02:33:51,620 --> 02:33:52,680
And there you have it.

5871
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:52,980
I mean.

5872
02:33:53,160 --> 02:33:53,420
Look.

5873
02:33:53,560 --> 02:33:55,010
Some strange stuff on this

5874
02:33:55,010 --> 02:33:56,420
fucking Bud.com.

5875
02:33:57,040 --> 02:33:57,580
I tell you.

5876
02:33:57,680 --> 02:33:58,480
Death is good.

5877
02:33:58,580 --> 02:33:59,940
By Ethan Belland.

5878
02:34:00,540 --> 02:34:02,100
Or Ethan Broadband.

5879
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:06,080
Y2K offer.

5880
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:09,900
It's crazy isn't it?

5881
02:34:09,900 --> 02:34:10,740
There's no pieces of writing.

5882
02:34:10,860 --> 02:34:11,280
There's poems.

5883
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:12,610
What else are we going to find

5884
02:34:12,610 --> 02:34:13,040
here?

5885
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:16,760
Plastic Seed by Luness.

5886
02:34:18,220 --> 02:34:20,060
What is a Geek by Misuba.

5887
02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:22,160
Who are these people?

5888
02:34:22,300 --> 02:34:22,400
What.

5889
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:24,460
Who are all these guys?

5890
02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:25,280
Darby.

5891
02:34:26,020 --> 02:34:26,660
Lotta Cash.

5892
02:34:26,780 --> 02:34:27,120
Jenny.

5893
02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:27,820
Decker.

5894
02:34:27,980 --> 02:34:28,600
Al Decker.

5895
02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:30,000
Eve Bradford.

5896
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:30,780
Buy Bubble.

5897
02:34:32,700 --> 02:34:33,660
Bin Laden.

5898
02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:36,380
Stories of pieces of music.

5899
02:34:36,700 --> 02:34:37,640
That people have put together.

5900
02:34:37,740 --> 02:34:38,540
And all that stuff.

5901
02:34:38,680 --> 02:34:40,110
It has the name of the creators

5902
02:34:40,110 --> 02:34:40,580
on it.

5903
02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:41,480
Promotently.

5904
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:42,120
It's an original.

5905
02:34:42,120 --> 02:34:43,680
It's an original piece of work.

5906
02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:44,160
Yeah.

5907
02:34:44,200 --> 02:34:44,380
Well.

5908
02:34:44,500 --> 02:34:45,100
Or it's.

5909
02:34:45,100 --> 02:34:45,900
It's their.

5910
02:34:46,140 --> 02:34:47,220
Take on something.

5911
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:48,490
That is someone else's original

5912
02:34:48,490 --> 02:34:49,180
piece of work.

5913
02:34:49,260 --> 02:34:49,860
But it's their.

5914
02:34:50,140 --> 02:34:50,340
You know.

5915
02:34:50,400 --> 02:34:51,640
Everybody's putting their stamp

5916
02:34:51,640 --> 02:34:52,200
on things.

5917
02:34:52,300 --> 02:34:54,080
And that looks ominous as well.

5918
02:34:54,420 --> 02:34:55,020
I don't know.

5919
02:34:55,180 --> 02:34:55,640
Am I.

5920
02:34:55,740 --> 02:34:57,100
Am I going too far here?

5921
02:34:59,600 --> 02:35:00,820
Something a little bit.

5922
02:35:00,980 --> 02:35:02,250
That's another like a drug

5923
02:35:02,250 --> 02:35:04,000
reference from the 90s.

5924
02:35:04,060 --> 02:35:04,300
You know.

5925
02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:05,140
Like those.

5926
02:35:06,820 --> 02:35:07,980
Those clothes that you could

5927
02:35:07,980 --> 02:35:08,940
get that were banned.

5928
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:10,880
That said spliffy on them.

5929
02:35:11,020 --> 02:35:11,660
Or eclipse.

5930
02:35:12,660 --> 02:35:13,400
Or naff.

5931
02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:14,460
Naff 54.

5932
02:35:14,900 --> 02:35:15,540
And kind of giving you their

5933
02:35:15,540 --> 02:35:16,240
perspective.

5934
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:17,780
And what's great is that all

5935
02:35:17,780 --> 02:35:18,400
those.

5936
02:35:18,660 --> 02:35:19,580
Each link.

5937
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:19,920
Right.

5938
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:20,620
Is two links.

5939
02:35:20,680 --> 02:35:22,000
That letter sent home from the

5940
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:22,900
primary school.

5941
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:23,600
To the parents.

5942
02:35:23,740 --> 02:35:24,700
That said these jackets are

5943
02:35:24,700 --> 02:35:25,440
going around.

5944
02:35:25,700 --> 02:35:26,630
And they're not allowed in

5945
02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:27,160
school.

5946
02:35:27,980 --> 02:35:28,910
And it just had a picture of a

5947
02:35:28,910 --> 02:35:30,700
fucking stoner on them.

5948
02:35:31,740 --> 02:35:31,900
You know.

5949
02:35:31,960 --> 02:35:33,300
But kids were wearing them.

5950
02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:34,280
What would.

5951
02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:35,940
Where were the parents?

5952
02:35:36,620 --> 02:35:37,380
And if they were there.

5953
02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:37,840
They were just.

5954
02:35:38,380 --> 02:35:39,180
They didn't care.

5955
02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:40,180
The parents didn't care.

5956
02:35:40,180 --> 02:35:41,020
Because you get the.

5957
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:41,930
The thing that they're talking

5958
02:35:41,930 --> 02:35:42,220
about.

5959
02:35:42,320 --> 02:35:42,940
That's out on the web.

5960
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:44,200
That's part of internet culture.

5961
02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:45,700
Very Silent Hill.

5962
02:35:45,800 --> 02:35:46,680
Captain Hicks.

5963
02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:48,280
Link.

5964
02:35:48,420 --> 02:35:48,600
Because.

5965
02:35:48,600 --> 02:35:54,320
Very bizarre stuff indeed.

5966
02:35:57,600 --> 02:35:58,500
Sort of like.

5967
02:35:58,600 --> 02:35:59,000
A fucking.

5968
02:35:59,960 --> 02:36:00,920
Mr. Ben.

5969
02:36:01,820 --> 02:36:02,560
Situation there.

5970
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:05,020
And then.

5971
02:36:05,660 --> 02:36:06,700
A Silent Hill.

5972
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:07,600
Face.

5973
02:36:08,300 --> 02:36:08,780
You get the.

5974
02:36:08,820 --> 02:36:09,710
The thing that they're talking

5975
02:36:09,710 --> 02:36:10,000
about.

5976
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:10,720
That's out on the web.

5977
02:36:10,820 --> 02:36:11,960
That's part of internet culture.

5978
02:36:12,600 --> 02:36:14,040
And you get their link.

5979
02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:14,620
To their personal.

5980
02:36:14,740 --> 02:36:15,960
Step inside.

5981
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:17,220
My parlor.

5982
02:36:17,220 --> 02:36:20,260
Web page.

5983
02:36:20,340 --> 02:36:21,120
So you get the mingling.

5984
02:36:21,260 --> 02:36:22,220
Of personal perspective.

5985
02:36:22,220 --> 02:36:22,660
Of the people.

5986
02:36:22,780 --> 02:36:23,600
Who are putting in stuff.

5987
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:24,360
The other readers.

5988
02:36:24,860 --> 02:36:25,480
And you're getting.

5989
02:36:25,640 --> 02:36:26,040
Whatever it is.

5990
02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:26,320
You know.

5991
02:36:26,380 --> 02:36:27,660
And then on the front of house.

5992
02:36:27,720 --> 02:36:28,440
It's this guy.

5993
02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:30,440
Who seems like.

5994
02:36:30,580 --> 02:36:31,060
A nice.

5995
02:36:31,140 --> 02:36:31,920
Affable fella.

5996
02:36:32,780 --> 02:36:33,060
You know.

5997
02:36:33,400 --> 02:36:34,080
But who knows.

5998
02:36:34,140 --> 02:36:34,720
What kind of.

5999
02:36:34,880 --> 02:36:35,780
Darkness lurks.

6000
02:36:35,940 --> 02:36:36,860
Behind the portal.

6001
02:36:36,860 --> 02:36:37,900
That he's trying to.

6002
02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:38,800
Get us to.

6003
02:36:39,060 --> 02:36:39,860
To get inside.

6004
02:36:40,020 --> 02:36:40,620
Step inside.

6005
02:36:40,620 --> 02:36:41,160
My portal.

6006
02:36:41,320 --> 02:36:41,920
They're talking about.

6007
02:36:42,060 --> 02:36:42,660
So it sounds like you've

6008
02:36:42,660 --> 02:36:42,980
created.

6009
02:36:43,260 --> 02:36:44,340
The alternate portal.

6010
02:36:44,540 --> 02:36:44,900
If you will.

6011
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:45,560
So we'll have.

6012
02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:46,680
The alternate portal.

6013
02:36:46,780 --> 02:36:47,540
To go check it out.

6014
02:36:48,220 --> 02:36:49,720
For URLs of today's.

6015
02:36:49,780 --> 02:36:50,700
Featured websites.

6016
02:36:51,100 --> 02:36:51,620
Just go to.

6017
02:36:51,620 --> 02:36:52,840
The net cafe site.

6018
02:36:53,100 --> 02:36:55,120
At cnctv.com

6019
02:36:55,120 --> 02:36:56,900
All right.

6020
02:36:56,920 --> 02:36:57,180
Mike.

6021
02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:57,560
You are.

6022
02:36:57,820 --> 02:36:58,560
All right.

6023
02:36:58,640 --> 02:36:59,340
And back out.

6024
02:36:59,340 --> 02:37:00,520
Out of that darkness.

6025
02:37:01,380 --> 02:37:02,460
Comes the light.

6026
02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:04,100
Step out of the.

6027
02:37:04,220 --> 02:37:04,800
The dark.

6028
02:37:05,080 --> 02:37:05,360
Parler.

6029
02:37:06,320 --> 02:37:07,060
And let's.

6030
02:37:07,220 --> 02:37:08,540
Let's go back to that.

6031
02:37:08,660 --> 02:37:09,180
Look at that.

6032
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:10,880
Is there anything more.

6033
02:37:11,540 --> 02:37:12,520
Reassuringly safe.

6034
02:37:13,720 --> 02:37:14,960
Than a fucking cut.

6035
02:37:15,060 --> 02:37:15,840
A transition.

6036
02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:17,080
Of static.

6037
02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:18,400
You know.

6038
02:37:18,780 --> 02:37:19,540
As if to kind of.

6039
02:37:19,740 --> 02:37:20,140
Embody.

6040
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:20,640
And.

6041
02:37:21,780 --> 02:37:22,220
Represent.

6042
02:37:22,620 --> 02:37:23,400
The dark.

6043
02:37:23,740 --> 02:37:24,100
Void.

6044
02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:25,120
That we've just been in.

6045
02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:26,880
And then frame.

6046
02:37:27,600 --> 02:37:28,300
Into that.

6047
02:37:28,880 --> 02:37:29,400
Lightness.

6048
02:37:29,720 --> 02:37:30,040
Heaven.

6049
02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:31,960
Reassurance.

6050
02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:33,520
Stew.

6051
02:37:36,020 --> 02:37:38,140
Just go to the net cafe site.

6052
02:37:38,500 --> 02:37:40,420
At cnctv.com

6053
02:37:40,420 --> 02:37:42,180
All right.

6054
02:37:42,180 --> 02:37:42,460
Mike.

6055
02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:43,540
You are a vice president.

6056
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:44,820
And you're the manager.

6057
02:37:44,980 --> 02:37:45,560
Of net center.

6058
02:37:45,560 --> 02:37:46,400
As I understand it.

6059
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:47,300
Which is netscape's.

6060
02:37:47,480 --> 02:37:48,860
Move into the portal business.

6061
02:37:48,860 --> 02:37:49,060
Right.

6062
02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:49,180
I mean.

6063
02:37:49,180 --> 02:37:50,140
We're talking about portals.

6064
02:37:50,400 --> 02:37:51,260
Is this what you're trying to

6065
02:37:51,260 --> 02:37:51,820
do with me?

6066
02:37:52,280 --> 02:37:52,340
We're.

6067
02:37:53,280 --> 02:37:56,680
We're talking about portals.

6068
02:37:58,740 --> 02:37:59,140
Oh.

6069
02:37:59,140 --> 02:37:59,920
What a build up.

6070
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:01,500
Go to the net cafe site.

6071
02:38:01,660 --> 02:38:03,780
At cnctv.com

6072
02:38:03,780 --> 02:38:05,540
All right.

6073
02:38:05,540 --> 02:38:05,820
Mike.

6074
02:38:05,860 --> 02:38:06,880
You are a vice president.

6075
02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:07,500
At netscape.

6076
02:38:07,580 --> 02:38:08,200
And you're the manager.

6077
02:38:08,200 --> 02:38:08,920
Of net center.

6078
02:38:08,920 --> 02:38:09,760
As I understand it.

6079
02:38:09,760 --> 02:38:10,660
Which is netscape's.

6080
02:38:10,660 --> 02:38:12,200
Move into the portal business.

6081
02:38:12,200 --> 02:38:12,400
Right.

6082
02:38:12,460 --> 02:38:12,540
I mean.

6083
02:38:12,540 --> 02:38:13,480
We're talking about portals.

6084
02:38:13,480 --> 02:38:14,480
Is this what you're trying to

6085
02:38:14,480 --> 02:38:15,300
do with net center?

6086
02:38:15,300 --> 02:38:15,800
Yes.

6087
02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:16,340
That's right.

6088
02:38:16,340 --> 02:38:17,740
Build out our entire set of

6089
02:38:17,740 --> 02:38:19,260
services on the website.

6090
02:38:19,260 --> 02:38:21,760
So that the portal site net

6091
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:22,680
center.

6092
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:23,980
Can be a one stop shop for all

6093
02:38:23,980 --> 02:38:25,080
of netscape users.

6094
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:25,080
Okay.

6095
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:26,040
You've got this huge advantage.

6096
02:38:26,040 --> 02:38:27,070
Because a lot of people using

6097
02:38:27,070 --> 02:38:27,900
netscape browser.

6098
02:38:27,900 --> 02:38:29,240
It defaults to netscape.

6099
02:38:29,240 --> 02:38:30,400
Which is now net center.

6100
02:38:31,680 --> 02:38:31,880
Give us a little bit of the

6101
02:38:31,880 --> 02:38:34,080
strategy behind this evolution.

6102
02:38:34,220 --> 02:38:35,370
I mean netscape sort of was a

6103
02:38:35,370 --> 02:38:36,340
software company.

6104
02:38:36,340 --> 02:38:37,480
And then a browser company.

6105
02:38:37,480 --> 02:38:38,550
And now you're really in the

6106
02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:39,860
content business on the web.

6107
02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:40,340
Yeah.

6108
02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:41,340
We started out.

6109
02:38:41,420 --> 02:38:42,260
As you know.

6110
02:38:42,400 --> 02:38:43,430
Really selling the browser

6111
02:38:43,430 --> 02:38:44,340
primarily in 95.

6112
02:38:44,340 --> 02:38:44,460
Netscape.

6113
02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:46,200
And expanded the product line.

6114
02:38:46,540 --> 02:38:47,840
To include servers.

6115
02:38:48,080 --> 02:38:49,160
And then enterprise software.

6116
02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:49,440
Right.

6117
02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:50,720
In 96 and 97.

6118
02:38:51,100 --> 02:38:52,460
All along that time.

6119
02:38:52,780 --> 02:38:54,310
We were improving the services

6120
02:38:54,310 --> 02:38:55,760
we offered on the site.

6121
02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:57,100
So back in 95.

6122
02:38:57,100 --> 02:38:58,470
We started selling our first

6123
02:38:58,470 --> 02:38:58,800
ads.

6124
02:38:58,860 --> 02:38:59,970
And we brought live our general

6125
02:38:59,970 --> 02:39:00,360
store.

6126
02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:01,650
And we started our search

6127
02:39:01,650 --> 02:39:02,300
program.

6128
02:39:02,480 --> 02:39:04,170
And we added individual

6129
02:39:04,170 --> 02:39:06,320
services throughout the whole

6130
02:39:06,320 --> 02:39:06,920
period.

6131
02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:08,420
And it's great to have the CCTV

6132
02:39:08,420 --> 02:39:10,200
voyeuristic angle here as well.

6133
02:39:10,200 --> 02:39:12,580
Because this guy is going hard

6134
02:39:12,580 --> 02:39:14,540
on the hand gestures.

6135
02:39:15,240 --> 02:39:17,220
And he's taking the game to Stu.

6136
02:39:17,220 --> 02:39:19,470
We know that Stu loves to do

6137
02:39:19,470 --> 02:39:20,900
the hand gestures.

6138
02:39:21,040 --> 02:39:24,200
But this guy, Mr. Homer, is

6139
02:39:24,200 --> 02:39:26,260
also a big hand man.

6140
02:39:27,180 --> 02:39:28,540
Look at the hand work.

6141
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:29,900
The hand play.

6142
02:39:30,620 --> 02:39:33,190
And he can already sense a bit

6143
02:39:33,190 --> 02:39:35,300
of, you know, Stu.

6144
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:36,840
You can see there.

6145
02:39:36,880 --> 02:39:37,640
That cut there.

6146
02:39:37,780 --> 02:39:38,440
Into that.

6147
02:39:38,500 --> 02:39:38,980
He's doing it.

6148
02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:40,460
He's doing a Stu claw.

6149
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:43,540
Which is a patented Stu move.

6150
02:39:44,540 --> 02:39:45,790
So that's already going to put

6151
02:39:45,790 --> 02:39:47,000
the willies.

6152
02:39:49,060 --> 02:39:49,860
Up Stu.

6153
02:39:50,660 --> 02:39:52,140
For want of a better phrase.

6154
02:39:52,200 --> 02:39:53,260
It's going to give him the willies.

6155
02:39:53,340 --> 02:39:53,700
Should I say.

6156
02:39:53,700 --> 02:39:55,770
We added individual services

6157
02:39:55,770 --> 02:39:57,370
throughout the whole period

6158
02:39:57,370 --> 02:39:59,660
from 95 to the middle of 97.

6159
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:01,690
What we did in the middle of 97

6160
02:40:01,690 --> 02:40:03,490
is we expanded that into a set

6161
02:40:03,490 --> 02:40:05,000
of services that was.

6162
02:40:05,080 --> 02:40:06,720
It's called the doggy paddle.

6163
02:40:07,160 --> 02:40:08,880
And it works because he's a new

6164
02:40:08,880 --> 02:40:10,000
dog in town.

6165
02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:11,240
He's a new big dog in town.

6166
02:40:11,380 --> 02:40:12,210
I like the way this is

6167
02:40:12,210 --> 02:40:13,600
developing here as well.

6168
02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:14,920
We've.

6169
02:40:15,300 --> 02:40:16,000
We're really.

6170
02:40:16,100 --> 02:40:17,380
It took a while to get into it.

6171
02:40:17,420 --> 02:40:18,960
But we're getting in there.

6172
02:40:19,020 --> 02:40:20,220
We're getting into the Net Cafe

6173
02:40:20,220 --> 02:40:20,560
world.

6174
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:21,590
Sometimes it takes a bit of

6175
02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:22,400
time, you know.

6176
02:40:22,860 --> 02:40:23,780
And then it just.

6177
02:40:23,880 --> 02:40:25,320
It begins to work.

6178
02:40:25,460 --> 02:40:26,640
It just starts to flow.

6179
02:40:26,920 --> 02:40:28,280
A lot broader under a single

6180
02:40:28,280 --> 02:40:28,960
sign up.

6181
02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:29,320
So that.

6182
02:40:29,320 --> 02:40:29,880
And I have to say.

6183
02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:30,320
We can essentially.

6184
02:40:30,480 --> 02:40:32,890
You go and save the best to

6185
02:40:32,890 --> 02:40:33,800
last.

6186
02:40:33,980 --> 02:40:36,410
Begin collecting members of Net

6187
02:40:36,410 --> 02:40:37,300
Center.

6188
02:40:37,340 --> 02:40:37,520
Right.

6189
02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:38,540
And then add to the whole

6190
02:40:38,540 --> 02:40:39,100
service.

6191
02:40:39,140 --> 02:40:39,280
All right.

6192
02:40:39,320 --> 02:40:40,170
Now when you collect these

6193
02:40:40,170 --> 02:40:41,080
members at Net Center.

6194
02:40:41,240 --> 02:40:42,240
Now they're going toe to toe

6195
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:43,380
with the hand gestures.

6196
02:40:43,720 --> 02:40:45,020
Because Stu is back in.

6197
02:40:45,740 --> 02:40:46,510
Pickets to make money in some

6198
02:40:46,510 --> 02:40:47,380
way, right?

6199
02:40:47,660 --> 02:40:48,410
I mean what's the business

6200
02:40:48,410 --> 02:40:49,000
model here?

6201
02:40:49,300 --> 02:40:50,360
It's twofold.

6202
02:40:50,500 --> 02:40:52,040
I mean on the one hand if we're

6203
02:40:52,040 --> 02:40:53,660
able to get somebody to sign up

6204
02:40:53,660 --> 02:40:54,720
for Net Center.

6205
02:40:54,900 --> 02:40:56,140
Then they become a member.

6206
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:57,420
We know a little bit about them.

6207
02:40:57,420 --> 02:40:58,140
And then we're able to.

6208
02:40:58,140 --> 02:40:59,340
They're both wearing blue

6209
02:40:59,340 --> 02:40:59,860
shirts.

6210
02:41:00,480 --> 02:41:01,870
And they're both going hand to

6211
02:41:01,870 --> 02:41:02,980
hand combat.

6212
02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:04,360
For more tailored services.

6213
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:06,400
So the user services are better.

6214
02:41:06,820 --> 02:41:07,680
On the other hand.

6215
02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:09,470
Of course the more people that

6216
02:41:09,470 --> 02:41:10,000
come.

6217
02:41:10,060 --> 02:41:10,800
And the more frequently the

6218
02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:11,460
users are better.

6219
02:41:11,840 --> 02:41:12,740
On the other hand.

6220
02:41:13,460 --> 02:41:14,530
Of course the more people that

6221
02:41:14,530 --> 02:41:15,060
come.

6222
02:41:15,120 --> 02:41:16,100
And the more frequently they

6223
02:41:16,100 --> 02:41:16,700
use the site.

6224
02:41:16,700 --> 02:41:17,790
The more advertising

6225
02:41:17,790 --> 02:41:19,080
opportunity there is.

6226
02:41:19,340 --> 02:41:20,260
And if those happen to be

6227
02:41:20,260 --> 02:41:21,360
people that are members.

6228
02:41:21,820 --> 02:41:23,900
Then we know enough about them.

6229
02:41:23,960 --> 02:41:25,340
To present custom advertising

6230
02:41:25,340 --> 02:41:25,860
to them.

6231
02:41:25,940 --> 02:41:26,740
And things like that.

6232
02:41:26,820 --> 02:41:26,960
Right.

6233
02:41:27,040 --> 02:41:27,640
So I mean you're trying to

6234
02:41:27,640 --> 02:41:27,980
become.

6235
02:41:28,120 --> 02:41:29,260
I mean a Yahoo in a way.

6236
02:41:29,340 --> 02:41:30,120
Is that the model here?

6237
02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:30,890
I mean they've been very

6238
02:41:30,890 --> 02:41:31,700
successful with this.

6239
02:41:31,780 --> 02:41:32,040
Yeah.

6240
02:41:32,120 --> 02:41:32,900
I mean we have.

6241
02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:34,130
You know enjoyed a lot of

6242
02:41:34,130 --> 02:41:35,240
revenue from our.

6243
02:41:35,300 --> 02:41:36,340
What the fuck is going on back

6244
02:41:36,340 --> 02:41:36,740
there?

6245
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:37,720
There's a hair salon.

6246
02:41:37,880 --> 02:41:40,380
An impromptu hair salon.

6247
02:41:40,620 --> 02:41:42,220
Or hair styling going on.

6248
02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:43,840
In the background as well.

6249
02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:45,000
In cybersmith.

6250
02:41:45,220 --> 02:41:46,410
I mean they've been very

6251
02:41:46,410 --> 02:41:47,680
successful with this.

6252
02:41:47,740 --> 02:41:48,800
Yeah I mean we have.

6253
02:41:48,940 --> 02:41:49,020
Check that out there.

6254
02:41:49,140 --> 02:41:50,170
You know enjoyed a lot of

6255
02:41:50,170 --> 02:41:51,640
revenue from our website.

6256
02:41:51,640 --> 02:41:52,720
For a long time.

6257
02:41:52,820 --> 02:41:52,960
Right.

6258
02:41:52,960 --> 02:41:54,720
In fact we did 105 million

6259
02:41:54,720 --> 02:41:56,560
dollars of revenue last year.

6260
02:41:56,680 --> 02:41:58,580
Is it a hair stylistic.

6261
02:41:59,120 --> 02:42:01,640
You know limited edition moment.

6262
02:42:01,640 --> 02:42:03,340
Or is it flirtatious.

6263
02:42:05,340 --> 02:42:06,260
Scenario between.

6264
02:42:06,620 --> 02:42:08,300
You know an unknown party.

6265
02:42:08,540 --> 02:42:10,120
Yahoo did 69 million dollars.

6266
02:42:10,220 --> 02:42:11,640
That's a little known aspect.

6267
02:42:11,780 --> 02:42:12,060
Ad revenue.

6268
02:42:12,400 --> 02:42:13,900
It is about 80%.

6269
02:42:13,900 --> 02:42:14,480
It's getting.

6270
02:42:14,900 --> 02:42:16,280
They're getting very close.

6271
02:42:16,980 --> 02:42:18,300
69 million dollars.

6272
02:42:18,400 --> 02:42:19,800
That's a little known aspect.

6273
02:42:19,980 --> 02:42:20,220
Ad revenue.

6274
02:42:20,580 --> 02:42:22,760
It is about 80% ad revenue.

6275
02:42:22,880 --> 02:42:23,600
And the other is what?

6276
02:42:23,780 --> 02:42:24,740
It's actually developed.

6277
02:42:24,880 --> 02:42:26,020
She's gone right in there.

6278
02:42:26,500 --> 02:42:27,410
Maybe she's doing his eyebrows

6279
02:42:27,410 --> 02:42:28,180
or something.

6280
02:42:28,320 --> 02:42:29,590
The other is selling software

6281
02:42:29,590 --> 02:42:30,220
on the side.

6282
02:42:30,440 --> 02:42:30,720
Okay.

6283
02:42:30,720 --> 02:42:31,830
Other types of promotional

6284
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:32,360
service.

6285
02:42:32,380 --> 02:42:33,760
It's weird like.

6286
02:42:33,860 --> 02:42:34,320
I mean what's.

6287
02:42:36,400 --> 02:42:37,400
What are they doing?

6288
02:42:37,740 --> 02:42:39,570
So we actually have had this

6289
02:42:39,570 --> 02:42:41,180
very very lucrative and

6290
02:42:41,180 --> 02:42:42,920
successful business.

6291
02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:44,420
Look at this.

6292
02:42:44,560 --> 02:42:46,030
In selling ads and building

6293
02:42:46,030 --> 02:42:47,200
revenues on net.

6294
02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:48,030
She's spraying him with

6295
02:42:48,030 --> 02:42:48,580
something.

6296
02:42:48,800 --> 02:42:49,400
She's spraying him with

6297
02:42:49,400 --> 02:42:49,940
something.

6298
02:42:50,360 --> 02:42:52,070
What we hadn't done is built as

6299
02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:54,560
good a service for the end user.

6300
02:42:54,940 --> 02:42:55,990
And we hadn't really focused on

6301
02:42:55,990 --> 02:42:56,860
that business.

6302
02:42:57,280 --> 02:42:58,260
Whoever he is.

6303
02:42:58,340 --> 02:43:00,640
He's got a very thick mane.

6304
02:43:00,760 --> 02:43:01,140
Primarily.

6305
02:43:01,580 --> 02:43:02,370
Because we were still making

6306
02:43:02,370 --> 02:43:03,600
our money from software.

6307
02:43:03,740 --> 02:43:05,010
Now a lot of the stuff when you

6308
02:43:05,010 --> 02:43:05,600
go there.

6309
02:43:05,900 --> 02:43:07,900
Rare cough from stew there.

6310
02:43:08,020 --> 02:43:08,780
He left that in.

6311
02:43:11,000 --> 02:43:11,440
Merrily.

6312
02:43:12,640 --> 02:43:13,080
Merrily.

6313
02:43:13,960 --> 02:43:15,160
It's an interesting.

6314
02:43:19,880 --> 02:43:20,240
Situation.

6315
02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:23,820
There's all sorts going on you

6316
02:43:23,820 --> 02:43:24,860
know.

6317
02:43:25,080 --> 02:43:25,990
Because we were still making

6318
02:43:25,990 --> 02:43:27,120
our money from software.

6319
02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:28,500
Now a lot of the stuff when you

6320
02:43:28,500 --> 02:43:29,100
go there.

6321
02:43:29,320 --> 02:43:30,400
You go to some content.

6322
02:43:30,540 --> 02:43:31,240
Click on that center.

6323
02:43:31,360 --> 02:43:32,440
And it says buy excite.

6324
02:43:32,540 --> 02:43:33,720
Are you really kind of.

6325
02:43:34,000 --> 02:43:34,800
Is it the same thing as going

6326
02:43:34,800 --> 02:43:35,850
to excite if I go through net

6327
02:43:35,850 --> 02:43:36,380
center?

6328
02:43:36,580 --> 02:43:37,360
No it's not.

6329
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:39,020
We have a series of services

6330
02:43:39,020 --> 02:43:40,620
that are things like smart

6331
02:43:40,620 --> 02:43:41,480
browsing.

6332
02:43:41,700 --> 02:43:42,280
And search.

6333
02:43:42,520 --> 02:43:43,920
And free web mail.

6334
02:43:44,400 --> 02:43:45,640
That we have on our site.

6335
02:43:45,740 --> 02:43:46,760
That we have done in an

6336
02:43:46,760 --> 02:43:48,600
integrated package for the user.

6337
02:43:49,240 --> 02:43:50,420
In addition to that.

6338
02:43:50,520 --> 02:43:51,920
We have worked with excite to

6339
02:43:51,920 --> 02:43:53,290
build out about half of the

6340
02:43:53,290 --> 02:43:54,500
content channels.

6341
02:43:54,500 --> 02:43:55,980
That are on net center.

6342
02:43:55,980 --> 02:43:57,890
Is the makeup artist fluffing

6343
02:43:57,890 --> 02:43:59,240
up the next guest?

6344
02:43:59,700 --> 02:44:01,220
I mean if they're not on the

6345
02:44:01,220 --> 02:44:01,860
show.

6346
02:44:02,020 --> 02:44:03,850
I mean I didn't think I

6347
02:44:03,850 --> 02:44:05,240
recognized.

6348
02:44:05,800 --> 02:44:07,120
Just from the cut of him there.

6349
02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:08,680
He hasn't been on.

6350
02:44:08,740 --> 02:44:09,790
Because sometimes they might

6351
02:44:09,790 --> 02:44:10,820
film these bits before.

6352
02:44:11,020 --> 02:44:12,360
And you know we've already seen.

6353
02:44:13,020 --> 02:44:14,360
Or after the event.

6354
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:16,490
But I haven't seen him in the

6355
02:44:16,490 --> 02:44:17,760
setup so far.

6356
02:44:19,200 --> 02:44:20,320
No it's not.

6357
02:44:20,320 --> 02:44:22,290
We have a series of services

6358
02:44:22,290 --> 02:44:24,220
that are things like smart

6359
02:44:24,220 --> 02:44:26,000
browsing and search.

6360
02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:26,260
Right.

6361
02:44:26,260 --> 02:44:27,660
And free web mail.

6362
02:44:27,960 --> 02:44:29,360
That we have on our site.

6363
02:44:29,460 --> 02:44:30,490
That we have done in an

6364
02:44:30,490 --> 02:44:32,320
integrated package for the user.

6365
02:44:32,860 --> 02:44:34,140
In addition to that.

6366
02:44:34,460 --> 02:44:35,640
We have worked with excite to

6367
02:44:35,640 --> 02:44:37,260
build out about half of the.

6368
02:44:37,260 --> 02:44:37,980
It's not DeVries.

6369
02:44:37,980 --> 02:44:39,660
That are on net center.

6370
02:44:39,660 --> 02:44:41,360
And the ones that you see.

6371
02:44:41,360 --> 02:44:43,460
Where you see the excite co-branding.

6372
02:44:43,460 --> 02:44:43,600
Right.

6373
02:44:43,760 --> 02:44:44,140
Are the ones.

6374
02:44:44,140 --> 02:44:46,400
DeVries is wearing a blazer and

6375
02:44:46,400 --> 02:44:48,160
shirt combination.

6376
02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:49,560
Very stylistic.

6377
02:44:50,320 --> 02:44:51,320
That we work on.

6378
02:44:51,320 --> 02:44:52,480
That fellow in the background

6379
02:44:52,480 --> 02:44:53,700
with the spritz and the hair.

6380
02:44:53,820 --> 02:44:54,900
He's wearing a kind of a blue

6381
02:44:54,900 --> 02:44:55,400
shirt.

6382
02:44:55,760 --> 02:44:56,360
Along with them.

6383
02:44:56,440 --> 02:44:58,120
You still will be in net center.

6384
02:44:58,560 --> 02:44:59,470
You still will be using our

6385
02:44:59,470 --> 02:45:00,640
personalization.

6386
02:45:00,980 --> 02:45:02,230
And all the advantages of the

6387
02:45:02,230 --> 02:45:03,580
client integration.

6388
02:45:03,880 --> 02:45:05,110
But they're providing content

6389
02:45:05,110 --> 02:45:06,460
on half of the channels.

6390
02:45:06,620 --> 02:45:07,670
Mike there's a little bit of AOL

6391
02:45:07,670 --> 02:45:08,520
I see in here too.

6392
02:45:08,740 --> 02:45:09,380
I love that.

6393
02:45:09,600 --> 02:45:11,060
And Stu loves AOL.

6394
02:45:11,480 --> 02:45:12,980
With that hand gesture as well.

6395
02:45:13,060 --> 02:45:13,500
Combination.

6396
02:45:13,500 --> 02:45:15,500
But I liked the snake in the

6397
02:45:15,500 --> 02:45:16,920
hole maneuver.

6398
02:45:17,140 --> 02:45:18,500
That Homer pulls out.

6399
02:45:19,160 --> 02:45:20,680
Both of these guys are in their

6400
02:45:20,680 --> 02:45:21,440
prime.

6401
02:45:21,720 --> 02:45:22,800
And they're hitting each other

6402
02:45:22,800 --> 02:45:23,840
with hand gestures.

6403
02:45:23,840 --> 02:45:25,280
That we've never even seen

6404
02:45:25,280 --> 02:45:25,900
before.

6405
02:45:26,320 --> 02:45:27,690
Like look at what he pulls out

6406
02:45:27,690 --> 02:45:28,860
of the bag here Homer.

6407
02:45:29,140 --> 02:45:30,180
Look at that.

6408
02:45:31,060 --> 02:45:32,560
I like to do that maneuver.

6409
02:45:32,760 --> 02:45:34,200
Do you know during the title

6410
02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:35,480
music to the show.

6411
02:45:35,580 --> 02:45:36,980
I usually do that myself.

6412
02:45:37,760 --> 02:45:37,960
Do you know.

6413
02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:39,300
But I've never whipped that out

6414
02:45:39,300 --> 02:45:40,460
in a fucking one on one.

6415
02:45:41,240 --> 02:45:42,310
I don't think I'd whip that out

6416
02:45:42,310 --> 02:45:43,380
on a one on one.

6417
02:45:43,540 --> 02:45:44,400
Snake in the hole.

6418
02:45:45,180 --> 02:45:45,760
It's great.

6419
02:45:45,900 --> 02:45:47,360
And I think Stu gets excited by

6420
02:45:47,360 --> 02:45:47,800
that.

6421
02:45:48,520 --> 02:45:49,980
He gets excited by that.

6422
02:45:50,120 --> 02:45:52,120
And starts to emote heavily on

6423
02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:52,620
AOL.

6424
02:45:52,620 --> 02:45:54,360
They're providing content on.

6425
02:45:54,540 --> 02:45:55,660
A double snake.

6426
02:45:55,940 --> 02:45:56,660
Double hole.

6427
02:45:57,340 --> 02:45:58,200
Half of the channels.

6428
02:45:58,360 --> 02:45:58,500
Mike.

6429
02:45:58,760 --> 02:45:59,520
Now look at this.

6430
02:45:59,600 --> 02:46:00,080
Look at Stu.

6431
02:46:00,800 --> 02:46:01,920
Is he gonna orb?

6432
02:46:02,380 --> 02:46:02,900
He's not.

6433
02:46:02,980 --> 02:46:04,600
He's gonna grab AOL.

6434
02:46:05,100 --> 02:46:06,560
He's imagining the word.

6435
02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:07,580
The title AOL.

6436
02:46:07,740 --> 02:46:08,220
We all know.

6437
02:46:08,340 --> 02:46:09,420
All I have to say is AOL.

6438
02:46:09,560 --> 02:46:10,720
We know what it looks like.

6439
02:46:10,800 --> 02:46:11,300
The letters.

6440
02:46:11,500 --> 02:46:11,960
The branding.

6441
02:46:12,480 --> 02:46:13,770
He's holding it in his hands

6442
02:46:13,770 --> 02:46:14,160
now.

6443
02:46:14,160 --> 02:46:17,060
He's got the whole world in his

6444
02:46:17,060 --> 02:46:18,020
hands.

6445
02:46:18,020 --> 02:46:19,560
The AOL I see in here too.

6446
02:46:19,640 --> 02:46:20,830
You got these pop-up ads that

6447
02:46:20,830 --> 02:46:21,900
sort of blast at you.

6448
02:46:22,260 --> 02:46:23,360
Hand blast.

6449
02:46:23,800 --> 02:46:24,280
Sandwich.

6450
02:46:24,880 --> 02:46:25,800
Another combination.

6451
02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:26,480
Combo.

6452
02:46:26,620 --> 02:46:27,020
Combo.

6453
02:46:27,160 --> 02:46:27,620
Combo.

6454
02:46:28,260 --> 02:46:30,440
See whatever Homer does.

6455
02:46:30,980 --> 02:46:32,960
Stu will top again and again.

6456
02:46:33,040 --> 02:46:33,400
And that's.

6457
02:46:33,520 --> 02:46:34,780
We haven't seen a hand blast

6458
02:46:34,780 --> 02:46:35,340
before.

6459
02:46:35,460 --> 02:46:35,720
You know.

6460
02:46:36,340 --> 02:46:37,100
It's deadly.

6461
02:46:37,600 --> 02:46:38,720
He's killed him with that one.

6462
02:46:38,780 --> 02:46:39,750
I don't think there's any

6463
02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:40,720
comeback for Homer.

6464
02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:41,620
I don't think Homer's got

6465
02:46:41,620 --> 02:46:42,060
anything.

6466
02:46:42,180 --> 02:46:42,840
But we never know.

6467
02:46:42,880 --> 02:46:43,720
We might see a sausage.

6468
02:46:43,720 --> 02:46:45,310
Mike there's a little bit of AOL

6469
02:46:45,310 --> 02:46:46,360
I see in here too.

6470
02:46:46,420 --> 02:46:46,740
You got these.

6471
02:46:46,940 --> 02:46:47,840
He's being stunned.

6472
02:46:48,160 --> 02:46:48,860
Pop-up ads.

6473
02:46:49,140 --> 02:46:50,620
He's fucking pop.

6474
02:46:50,820 --> 02:46:51,940
Popped him with the pop-up.

6475
02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:54,240
And then he said the word blast.

6476
02:46:54,780 --> 02:46:56,100
And sandwiched.

6477
02:46:56,540 --> 02:46:58,180
So it's a blast sandwich.

6478
02:46:58,360 --> 02:46:59,450
A blast at you whether you want

6479
02:46:59,450 --> 02:47:00,120
them or not.

6480
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:00,680
And a blast.

6481
02:47:00,780 --> 02:47:01,280
Sort of ads.

6482
02:47:01,560 --> 02:47:02,760
And then he's going sneaky

6483
02:47:02,760 --> 02:47:03,700
creepy Pete.

6484
02:47:04,040 --> 02:47:05,690
And it's combined with the

6485
02:47:05,690 --> 02:47:07,560
creepy angle as well.

6486
02:47:08,020 --> 02:47:09,960
So it really is a fucking three.

6487
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:12,320
Pronged attack there.

6488
02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:14,180
Let's just show you that again.

6489
02:47:14,480 --> 02:47:15,240
Well I see in here too.

6490
02:47:15,300 --> 02:47:16,420
You got these pop-up ads.

6491
02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:17,580
That sort of blast at you.

6492
02:47:17,640 --> 02:47:18,460
Whether you want them or not.

6493
02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:19,660
You've got sort of ads hidden

6494
02:47:19,660 --> 02:47:20,360
everywhere.

6495
02:47:20,680 --> 02:47:22,480
He's doing the shoulder roll.

6496
02:47:22,760 --> 02:47:24,080
I love the shoulder roll.

6497
02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:25,820
He's pulling that one out.

6498
02:47:25,980 --> 02:47:26,860
I think it's text.

6499
02:47:26,920 --> 02:47:27,880
But it turns out being an ad.

6500
02:47:28,120 --> 02:47:28,990
Is that sort of a necessary

6501
02:47:28,990 --> 02:47:30,320
part of way this has to work?

6502
02:47:30,340 --> 02:47:30,600
Lovely.

6503
02:47:30,600 --> 02:47:31,760
Yeah I think that what we've

6504
02:47:31,760 --> 02:47:32,320
learned.

6505
02:47:32,440 --> 02:47:33,460
Through a lot of research.

6506
02:47:33,880 --> 02:47:35,630
It's a shame we've gone in on

6507
02:47:35,630 --> 02:47:36,900
the CU Dutch.

6508
02:47:37,780 --> 02:47:38,690
We need to come out for a

6509
02:47:38,690 --> 02:47:40,040
medium Dutch.

6510
02:47:40,220 --> 02:47:41,380
If we're to see him.

6511
02:47:41,620 --> 02:47:43,560
What he's bringing to the table.

6512
02:47:43,560 --> 02:47:44,300
Is a riposte.

6513
02:47:44,300 --> 02:47:45,830
It's a necessary part of way

6514
02:47:45,830 --> 02:47:46,860
this has to work.

6515
02:47:47,080 --> 02:47:48,160
Yeah I think that what we've

6516
02:47:48,160 --> 02:47:48,760
learned.

6517
02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:49,940
Through a lot of research.

6518
02:47:50,140 --> 02:47:51,140
Over the last three and a half

6519
02:47:51,140 --> 02:47:51,600
years.

6520
02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:52,140
On the site.

6521
02:47:52,260 --> 02:47:54,720
Is that way beyond banner ads.

6522
02:47:54,920 --> 02:47:55,730
People actually like to have

6523
02:47:55,730 --> 02:47:56,480
their promotion.

6524
02:47:56,480 --> 02:47:58,020
We've just seen another snake.

6525
02:47:58,760 --> 02:47:59,780
Can be more targeted.

6526
02:48:00,020 --> 02:48:00,820
We didn't see it.

6527
02:48:01,040 --> 02:48:02,520
Pop-ups are a great example.

6528
02:48:02,680 --> 02:48:03,400
We found that.

6529
02:48:03,640 --> 02:48:05,140
If we put up a pop-up in front

6530
02:48:05,140 --> 02:48:06,060
of people.

6531
02:48:06,280 --> 02:48:08,760
And it's for a discount on CDs

6532
02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:10,060
or in books.

6533
02:48:10,060 --> 02:48:12,420
Then the rate with which people

6534
02:48:12,420 --> 02:48:13,660
will complain.

6535
02:48:13,660 --> 02:48:15,000
Is you know maybe two or three

6536
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:15,540
percent.

6537
02:48:15,780 --> 02:48:15,940
Right.

6538
02:48:16,300 --> 02:48:17,380
However if we offer somebody a

6539
02:48:17,380 --> 02:48:18,480
software upgrade.

6540
02:48:18,680 --> 02:48:20,240
That's targeted to them.

6541
02:48:20,320 --> 02:48:21,480
Because they have 3.0 and they

6542
02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:22,400
want to go to 4.0.

6543
02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:22,660
Right.

6544
02:48:22,740 --> 02:48:23,790
Then we might get a tenth of

6545
02:48:23,790 --> 02:48:24,400
that rate.

6546
02:48:24,520 --> 02:48:25,280
In any case.

6547
02:48:25,440 --> 02:48:25,680
Yeah.

6548
02:48:25,740 --> 02:48:26,940
Most people actually.

6549
02:48:27,280 --> 02:48:28,360
Don't mind the ads.

6550
02:48:28,620 --> 02:48:29,660
And the music.

6551
02:48:29,800 --> 02:48:30,880
The fade in is coming.

6552
02:48:31,080 --> 02:48:31,940
You know Stu's going to get out

6553
02:48:31,940 --> 02:48:32,420
of there.

6554
02:48:32,600 --> 02:48:34,040
They get the whole service for

6555
02:48:34,040 --> 02:48:34,460
free.

6556
02:48:34,600 --> 02:48:35,580
So that's the trade.

6557
02:48:35,660 --> 02:48:36,680
We make our money on some of

6558
02:48:36,680 --> 02:48:37,160
the ads.

6559
02:48:37,540 --> 02:48:38,410
And we offer free services to

6560
02:48:38,410 --> 02:48:39,040
the users.

6561
02:48:39,040 --> 02:48:39,360
Smile.

6562
02:48:39,480 --> 02:48:40,120
Is he going to smile?

6563
02:48:40,320 --> 02:48:40,720
NetCenter.

6564
02:48:40,860 --> 02:48:41,460
Thanks a lot Mike.

6565
02:48:42,100 --> 02:48:42,880
Just a nod.

6566
02:48:43,240 --> 02:48:44,600
And we have a fucking beautiful

6567
02:48:44,600 --> 02:48:45,320
wipe there.

6568
02:48:45,420 --> 02:48:45,900
Where we get.

6569
02:48:46,680 --> 02:48:48,460
A bizarre amalgamation.

6570
02:48:48,460 --> 02:48:50,380
It's the tiger claw wipe.

6571
02:48:51,220 --> 02:48:52,420
Which gives us.

6572
02:48:52,620 --> 02:48:54,000
If we break it down frame by

6573
02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:54,380
frame.

6574
02:48:55,240 --> 02:48:56,800
An amalgamation of Homer.

6575
02:48:57,520 --> 02:48:58,620
Homer's odyssey.

6576
02:48:59,560 --> 02:49:00,880
And Stu's chin.

6577
02:49:01,320 --> 02:49:02,520
And you can even see.

6578
02:49:02,840 --> 02:49:04,080
Even at that one there.

6579
02:49:04,160 --> 02:49:04,800
That's the most.

6580
02:49:05,420 --> 02:49:06,960
Shocking frame.

6581
02:49:07,860 --> 02:49:08,700
I think.

6582
02:49:08,840 --> 02:49:09,520
Where we've got.

6583
02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:11,580
The eye of the tiger.

6584
02:49:13,060 --> 02:49:14,440
The eye of Homer.

6585
02:49:16,400 --> 02:49:18,080
And then Stu's chin.

6586
02:49:19,820 --> 02:49:21,820
And the matching shirts to boot.

6587
02:49:22,120 --> 02:49:23,430
And we offer free services to

6588
02:49:23,430 --> 02:49:24,220
the users.

6589
02:49:24,500 --> 02:49:24,860
NetCenter.

6590
02:49:24,980 --> 02:49:25,620
Thanks a lot Mike.

6591
02:49:26,260 --> 02:49:28,100
What an encounter that was.

6592
02:49:28,220 --> 02:49:29,190
So we got to see a couple of

6593
02:49:29,190 --> 02:49:29,760
portals.

6594
02:49:29,760 --> 02:49:30,760
And talk to some folks.

6595
02:49:30,940 --> 02:49:31,810
And I think you were right in

6596
02:49:31,810 --> 02:49:32,600
the first place.

6597
02:49:32,660 --> 02:49:32,760
Right.

6598
02:49:32,800 --> 02:49:34,020
It's really a business thing.

6599
02:49:34,080 --> 02:49:35,620
It's a way to grab people.

6600
02:49:35,620 --> 02:49:36,320
And hold on to them.

6601
02:49:36,380 --> 02:49:37,320
And sell them to average.

6602
02:49:37,320 --> 02:49:37,640
Really.

6603
02:49:37,820 --> 02:49:39,180
What you're looking for is Stu.

6604
02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:41,210
I've said it time and time

6605
02:49:41,210 --> 02:49:42,020
again.

6606
02:49:42,760 --> 02:49:43,120
It's.

6607
02:49:43,220 --> 02:49:44,100
It is Stu.

6608
02:49:44,380 --> 02:49:46,400
It's just the driving force.

6609
02:49:46,580 --> 02:49:47,840
No matter what happens.

6610
02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:48,880
You bring it.

6611
02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:50,320
All comes back.

6612
02:49:50,780 --> 02:49:51,480
To Stu.

6613
02:49:51,480 --> 02:49:51,500
To Stu.

6614
02:49:52,500 --> 02:49:53,480
He's the glue.

6615
02:49:54,020 --> 02:49:55,500
That holds together.

6616
02:49:55,980 --> 02:49:57,460
The entire tapestry.

6617
02:49:58,260 --> 02:49:59,640
You can even see the stance.

6618
02:49:59,780 --> 02:50:01,160
Sitting stance there.

6619
02:50:01,160 --> 02:50:02,380
On that high stool.

6620
02:50:02,940 --> 02:50:03,880
Cradling the cup.

6621
02:50:04,400 --> 02:50:05,240
The cybersmith.

6622
02:50:05,440 --> 02:50:06,920
Embossed logo on the mug.

6623
02:50:07,920 --> 02:50:09,640
It's really a business thing.

6624
02:50:09,740 --> 02:50:11,240
It's a way to grab people.

6625
02:50:11,240 --> 02:50:11,940
And hold on to them.

6626
02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:13,120
And sell them to advertisers.

6627
02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:14,180
Well the real challenge.

6628
02:50:14,300 --> 02:50:15,180
For all of these portals.

6629
02:50:15,300 --> 02:50:16,060
Is to actually create.

6630
02:50:16,060 --> 02:50:16,260
And look at him.

6631
02:50:16,400 --> 02:50:16,860
It's such.

6632
02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:18,080
It really is style.

6633
02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:18,820
Great style.

6634
02:50:19,340 --> 02:50:19,960
And you knew that he was

6635
02:50:19,960 --> 02:50:20,660
destined.

6636
02:50:20,660 --> 02:50:21,740
For bigger and better things.

6637
02:50:21,820 --> 02:50:22,180
But I mean.

6638
02:50:22,820 --> 02:50:23,040
Look.

6639
02:50:23,100 --> 02:50:24,120
He probably knew that.

6640
02:50:24,220 --> 02:50:24,360
You know.

6641
02:50:24,380 --> 02:50:25,280
And this would have looked good.

6642
02:50:25,280 --> 02:50:25,880
On the CV.

6643
02:50:26,660 --> 02:50:27,100
You know.

6644
02:50:27,280 --> 02:50:28,720
As a communicator.

6645
02:50:28,820 --> 02:50:29,980
I'm a great communicator.

6646
02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:31,740
I've hosted a fucking program.

6647
02:50:31,960 --> 02:50:32,600
A TV show.

6648
02:50:32,840 --> 02:50:33,540
Four seasons.

6649
02:50:33,640 --> 02:50:34,300
Five seasons.

6650
02:50:35,080 --> 02:50:36,200
Broadcast around the world.

6651
02:50:36,940 --> 02:50:37,340
Value.

6652
02:50:37,540 --> 02:50:38,780
That people want to actually

6653
02:50:38,780 --> 02:50:39,580
come back to.

6654
02:50:39,880 --> 02:50:40,920
I think some are doing it.

6655
02:50:40,980 --> 02:50:41,560
And some aren't.

6656
02:50:41,800 --> 02:50:42,460
I think all of them.

6657
02:50:42,460 --> 02:50:43,310
really want to create a

6658
02:50:43,310 --> 02:50:43,860
community.

6659
02:50:44,260 --> 02:50:45,000
And we looked at this guy.

6660
02:50:45,100 --> 02:50:45,700
Justin Hall.

6661
02:50:45,980 --> 02:50:46,240
A little different.

6662
02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:46,500
Yeah.

6663
02:50:46,620 --> 02:50:46,800
Yeah.

6664
02:50:46,800 --> 02:50:47,540
Links from the Underground.

6665
02:50:47,640 --> 02:50:48,540
Well he created sort of.

6666
02:50:48,660 --> 02:50:48,800
You know.

6667
02:50:48,800 --> 02:50:49,850
One of the first community

6668
02:50:49,850 --> 02:50:50,440
feelings.

6669
02:50:50,440 --> 02:50:51,680
A very personal community.

6670
02:50:51,680 --> 02:50:52,800
People would come back to his

6671
02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:53,160
site.

6672
02:50:53,240 --> 02:50:54,000
Over and over again.

6673
02:50:54,060 --> 02:50:54,980
That's what all the big

6674
02:50:54,980 --> 02:50:56,020
companies want now too.

6675
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:57,300
Get you to keep coming back.

6676
02:50:57,440 --> 02:50:57,840
Coming back.

6677
02:50:58,480 --> 02:50:58,840
Sticky.

6678
02:50:58,840 --> 02:50:58,980
Sticky.

6679
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:00,460
Now what about you?

6680
02:51:00,520 --> 02:51:01,570
Is this sort of too restraining

6681
02:51:01,570 --> 02:51:02,240
for you to say.

6682
02:51:02,300 --> 02:51:02,380
No.

6683
02:51:02,420 --> 02:51:03,410
I'm always going to go in

6684
02:51:03,410 --> 02:51:04,480
through Net Center.

6685
02:51:04,660 --> 02:51:04,880
Or whatever.

6686
02:51:05,080 --> 02:51:05,140
Well.

6687
02:51:05,280 --> 02:51:05,600
Yeah.

6688
02:51:05,660 --> 02:51:07,150
I'm not one for sort of doing

6689
02:51:07,150 --> 02:51:08,060
the same thing.

6690
02:51:08,060 --> 02:51:08,780
Over and over again.

6691
02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:09,400
The other thing is.

6692
02:51:09,440 --> 02:51:10,500
Is that it's kind of one-upmanship.

6693
02:51:10,680 --> 02:51:11,630
There's always something new

6694
02:51:11,630 --> 02:51:12,720
that somebody else is adding.

6695
02:51:12,820 --> 02:51:13,040
Yeah.

6696
02:51:13,420 --> 02:51:14,040
I don't know.

6697
02:51:14,100 --> 02:51:15,320
I think if you do a few things

6698
02:51:15,320 --> 02:51:16,460
really really well.

6699
02:51:16,580 --> 02:51:17,550
Then I'm going to keep coming

6700
02:51:17,550 --> 02:51:18,470
back to you for those few

6701
02:51:18,470 --> 02:51:18,960
things.

6702
02:51:18,960 --> 02:51:19,140
Look.

6703
02:51:19,240 --> 02:51:20,660
It's the twosome that we've

6704
02:51:20,660 --> 02:51:21,800
seen earlier on.

6705
02:51:21,880 --> 02:51:23,160
They're fucking as thick as

6706
02:51:23,160 --> 02:51:23,780
thieves.

6707
02:51:23,780 --> 02:51:24,400
These two.

6708
02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:25,320
Cybersmith.

6709
02:51:25,320 --> 02:51:27,050
They were playing games with

6710
02:51:27,050 --> 02:51:27,940
each other.

6711
02:51:28,080 --> 02:51:28,950
There was a bit of cyber

6712
02:51:28,950 --> 02:51:29,940
bullying going on.

6713
02:51:30,180 --> 02:51:31,240
And there they are again.

6714
02:51:32,520 --> 02:51:33,810
You don't see one without the

6715
02:51:33,810 --> 02:51:34,720
other.

6716
02:51:35,360 --> 02:51:36,100
And it's like.

6717
02:51:36,160 --> 02:51:36,380
Look.

6718
02:51:36,860 --> 02:51:37,880
Is he putting something else

6719
02:51:37,880 --> 02:51:38,420
there?

6720
02:51:38,480 --> 02:51:39,600
On his arse this time?

6721
02:51:40,240 --> 02:51:41,660
The hand is going down to his

6722
02:51:41,660 --> 02:51:42,320
arse.

6723
02:51:43,380 --> 02:51:44,400
It seems as though it's.

6724
02:51:45,120 --> 02:51:46,080
It's continuing.

6725
02:51:46,220 --> 02:51:46,720
They're touching.

6726
02:51:48,040 --> 02:51:49,640
And they're just having a blast.

6727
02:51:54,140 --> 02:51:54,540
Look.

6728
02:51:54,620 --> 02:51:56,080
It's a laid back scenario in

6729
02:51:56,080 --> 02:51:57,020
California.

6730
02:51:57,020 --> 02:51:57,480
You know.

6731
02:51:58,640 --> 02:51:59,420
You really well.

6732
02:51:59,620 --> 02:52:00,490
Then I'm going to keep coming

6733
02:52:00,490 --> 02:52:01,440
back to you for those.

6734
02:52:01,580 --> 02:52:01,760
Boom.

6735
02:52:01,900 --> 02:52:02,400
In there again.

6736
02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:03,660
Things that you do really well.

6737
02:52:03,780 --> 02:52:04,220
I'm not.

6738
02:52:04,380 --> 02:52:05,140
Hands in the pockets.

6739
02:52:05,340 --> 02:52:06,120
Really a big believer.

6740
02:52:06,260 --> 02:52:07,460
Just loitering.

6741
02:52:07,600 --> 02:52:08,380
There's only going to be one or

6742
02:52:08,380 --> 02:52:08,920
two places.

6743
02:52:09,100 --> 02:52:09,740
That everybody always.

6744
02:52:09,740 --> 02:52:09,940
Well.

6745
02:52:09,980 --> 02:52:10,460
CineSearch.

6746
02:52:10,560 --> 02:52:11,220
The guy I talked to was one

6747
02:52:11,220 --> 02:52:11,760
good example.

6748
02:52:11,760 --> 02:52:12,820
Where they focus on people.

6749
02:52:12,940 --> 02:52:13,940
A bit of horseplay.

6750
02:52:14,520 --> 02:52:15,380
Just hanging around.

6751
02:52:15,520 --> 02:52:15,640
You know.

6752
02:52:15,740 --> 02:52:16,140
Idling.

6753
02:52:16,160 --> 02:52:17,070
Two places that everybody

6754
02:52:17,070 --> 02:52:17,380
always.

6755
02:52:17,380 --> 02:52:17,440
Well.

6756
02:52:18,060 --> 02:52:18,580
CineSearch.

6757
02:52:18,660 --> 02:52:19,420
The guy I talked to was one

6758
02:52:19,420 --> 02:52:20,000
good example.

6759
02:52:20,080 --> 02:52:21,140
Where they focus on people in

6760
02:52:21,140 --> 02:52:21,660
one town.

6761
02:52:21,740 --> 02:52:22,480
And that's kind of useful.

6762
02:52:22,920 --> 02:52:23,960
Rather than the general ones.

6763
02:52:24,200 --> 02:52:24,520
Anyhow.

6764
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:24,920
Portals.

6765
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:25,740
We'll check a couple of them

6766
02:52:25,740 --> 02:52:26,000
out.

6767
02:52:26,280 --> 02:52:27,380
That's it for Internet Cafe.

6768
02:52:27,540 --> 02:52:28,540
We'll see you here next time.

6769
02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:29,820
Beautiful stuff.

6770
02:52:29,820 --> 02:52:30,340
Internet Cafe.

6771
02:52:30,500 --> 02:52:32,140
If I could just guarantee.

6772
02:52:32,460 --> 02:52:34,940
Whatever episode of Net Cafe.

6773
02:52:34,940 --> 02:52:35,720
We're going to watch.

6774
02:52:35,720 --> 02:52:36,820
Would have.

6775
02:52:37,880 --> 02:52:39,060
Golden moments.

6776
02:52:39,060 --> 02:52:40,740
Like the Stu versus Homer.

6777
02:52:41,720 --> 02:52:42,620
Battle there.

6778
02:52:43,580 --> 02:52:44,440
Then I would be happy.

6779
02:52:44,540 --> 02:52:45,560
To continue watching.

6780
02:52:45,680 --> 02:52:45,880
I mean.

6781
02:52:45,960 --> 02:52:46,740
I did want.

6782
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:47,580
I did have.

6783
02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:48,740
Cook Report.

6784
02:52:49,300 --> 02:52:50,440
As a back burner.

6785
02:52:51,220 --> 02:52:51,880
You know.

6786
02:52:52,060 --> 02:52:52,540
Final.

6787
02:52:52,760 --> 02:52:53,820
Fatality move.

6788
02:52:56,520 --> 02:52:58,140
But I like this world.

6789
02:52:58,140 --> 02:52:58,980
That we're in here.

6790
02:52:59,700 --> 02:53:01,020
I like this world.

6791
02:53:01,160 --> 02:53:01,860
They've created.

6792
02:53:04,120 --> 02:53:05,180
Gambling and gaming.

6793
02:53:05,180 --> 02:53:05,840
On the web.

6794
02:53:05,840 --> 02:53:07,520
Do you know.

6795
02:53:07,660 --> 02:53:08,440
It looks great.

6796
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:10,020
The thumbnail looks fantastic.

6797
02:53:13,020 --> 02:53:14,200
I just think.

6798
02:53:14,300 --> 02:53:15,640
Have we seen it before.

6799
02:53:15,780 --> 02:53:16,100
You know.

6800
02:53:19,440 --> 02:53:20,520
Gamespot.com.

6801
02:53:20,680 --> 02:53:21,560
I just don't think.

6802
02:53:21,700 --> 02:53:22,680
Don't think we've seen it.

6803
02:53:22,740 --> 02:53:23,640
But I like the way.

6804
02:53:23,720 --> 02:53:25,020
They're promoting gambling.

6805
02:53:25,540 --> 02:53:25,780
I mean.

6806
02:53:25,820 --> 02:53:26,860
They mightn't be promoting it.

6807
02:53:27,380 --> 02:53:29,480
We'll get the intro blurb.

6808
02:53:29,820 --> 02:53:31,020
With the three guys.

6809
02:53:31,840 --> 02:53:33,720
In that Seinfeld setup.

6810
02:53:33,720 --> 02:53:34,940
Where they're kind of having.

6811
02:53:35,300 --> 02:53:36,180
Shits and giggles.

6812
02:53:36,180 --> 02:53:37,360
About what's going on.

6813
02:53:37,420 --> 02:53:38,000
A bit of comedy.

6814
02:53:38,000 --> 02:53:38,720
Before they get in.

6815
02:53:38,780 --> 02:53:40,060
And we'll know from there.

6816
02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:41,800
We'll know from there.

6817
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:43,480
It's Patrick Power himself.

6818
02:53:43,480 --> 02:53:44,080
Says Jeff.

6819
02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:44,720
What do you mean?

6820
02:53:44,760 --> 02:53:45,800
Have we seen that fella?

6821
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:46,700
Patrick Power.

6822
02:53:50,760 --> 02:53:51,240
Dennis.

6823
02:53:51,420 --> 02:53:51,560
Yeah.

6824
02:53:51,620 --> 02:53:52,180
We've seen it.

6825
02:53:52,260 --> 02:53:52,780
We've seen it.

6826
02:53:52,900 --> 02:53:53,300
Thresh.

6827
02:53:53,480 --> 02:53:54,220
Dennis Fong.

6828
02:53:54,940 --> 02:53:56,320
The world's most successful.

6829
02:53:56,320 --> 02:53:57,260
Computer gamer.

6830
02:53:58,640 --> 02:53:58,960
Yeah.

6831
02:53:59,180 --> 02:53:59,400
Yeah.

6832
02:53:59,400 --> 02:54:00,040
We've seen it.

6833
02:54:00,260 --> 02:54:01,120
Guest analyst.

6834
02:54:01,300 --> 02:54:02,020
Larry Maggot.

6835
02:54:02,880 --> 02:54:03,700
Jonathan Knight.

6836
02:54:03,700 --> 02:54:04,880
I know these names.

6837
02:54:05,040 --> 02:54:05,220
You know.

6838
02:54:09,460 --> 02:54:10,260
I remember.

6839
02:54:10,460 --> 02:54:10,980
When Fong.

6840
02:54:11,880 --> 02:54:13,060
Fong was on the scene.

6841
02:54:13,220 --> 02:54:14,720
He's talking about his Ferrari.

6842
02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:15,680
There's fucking.

6843
02:54:15,680 --> 02:54:16,880
Jimmy Savile again.

6844
02:54:16,980 --> 02:54:17,800
And the Wayback Machine.

6845
02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:18,520
And Father Ted.

6846
02:54:19,040 --> 02:54:19,580
I mean.

6847
02:54:19,880 --> 02:54:21,090
What are they suggesting to us

6848
02:54:21,090 --> 02:54:21,540
here?

6849
02:54:24,040 --> 02:54:24,980
It's a bit loud.

6850
02:54:25,100 --> 02:54:25,260
Sorry.

6851
02:54:25,360 --> 02:54:26,680
The volume is.

6852
02:54:27,260 --> 02:54:28,440
All over the place.

6853
02:54:28,440 --> 02:54:29,460
On these episodes.

6854
02:54:29,460 --> 02:54:30,460
Because they're mastered.

6855
02:54:30,700 --> 02:54:31,540
In different ways.

6856
02:54:34,180 --> 02:54:34,620
Microphobia.

6857
02:54:34,620 --> 02:54:35,700
Thresh.

6858
02:54:35,920 --> 02:54:37,480
He's earned $100,000.

6859
02:54:37,740 --> 02:54:38,000
And a Ferrari.

6860
02:54:38,260 --> 02:54:39,320
Sorry there lads.

6861
02:54:39,420 --> 02:54:41,060
It's absolutely blowing the.

6862
02:54:41,580 --> 02:54:42,600
Your ears off.

6863
02:54:42,680 --> 02:54:43,000
I think.

6864
02:54:44,040 --> 02:54:44,520
Thresh.

6865
02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:45,120
Ferrari.

6866
02:54:45,460 --> 02:54:46,520
Playing computer games.

6867
02:54:47,200 --> 02:54:48,140
If you're into strategy.

6868
02:54:48,300 --> 02:54:48,620
Fantasy.

6869
02:54:48,700 --> 02:54:48,900
Yeah.

6870
02:54:48,960 --> 02:54:49,460
We've seen it.

6871
02:54:50,440 --> 02:54:51,400
Definitely seen it.

6872
02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:51,780
I just.

6873
02:54:51,900 --> 02:54:53,220
I like seeing them again.

6874
02:54:53,440 --> 02:54:55,000
There's some standout moments.

6875
02:54:55,000 --> 02:54:56,140
From each and every one.

6876
02:54:56,780 --> 02:54:57,200
Even that.

6877
02:54:57,240 --> 02:54:58,220
Just that frame there.

6878
02:54:58,220 --> 02:54:58,720
Of your man.

6879
02:54:58,800 --> 02:55:00,520
And look at her leather waistcoat.

6880
02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:01,420
And.

6881
02:55:02,300 --> 02:55:02,820
Scarf.

6882
02:55:03,700 --> 02:55:03,880
You know.

6883
02:55:03,920 --> 02:55:04,720
There's always something.

6884
02:55:04,880 --> 02:55:05,980
There's something different.

6885
02:55:06,840 --> 02:55:08,110
Maybe let's just have a look at

6886
02:55:08,110 --> 02:55:08,860
Stu's.

6887
02:55:09,880 --> 02:55:11,060
Technique here again.

6888
02:55:11,140 --> 02:55:12,380
We'll just go back to Stu.

6889
02:55:12,780 --> 02:55:13,460
Except you gotta memorize.

6890
02:55:13,460 --> 02:55:13,620
Right.

6891
02:55:13,980 --> 02:55:15,280
Like for the Great Lakes.

6892
02:55:15,360 --> 02:55:16,100
You'd put homes.

6893
02:55:16,180 --> 02:55:16,440
Right.

6894
02:55:16,520 --> 02:55:16,520
You know.

6895
02:55:16,520 --> 02:55:17,300
Here on Ontario.

6896
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:17,640
Right.

6897
02:55:17,640 --> 02:55:17,780
Etc.

6898
02:55:17,780 --> 02:55:17,820
Right.

6899
02:55:18,880 --> 02:55:19,380
So.

6900
02:55:19,380 --> 02:55:20,440
I would use that.

6901
02:55:20,600 --> 02:55:22,120
To remember certain facts.

6902
02:55:22,220 --> 02:55:23,360
And I'd create funny ones.

6903
02:55:23,420 --> 02:55:24,300
To go along with that.

6904
02:55:24,540 --> 02:55:25,680
And that became a running joke.

6905
02:55:25,740 --> 02:55:26,120
And eventually.

6906
02:55:26,120 --> 02:55:27,160
I made a game about it.

6907
02:55:27,280 --> 02:55:28,420
I put the game together.

6908
02:55:28,420 --> 02:55:29,740
On an internet chat room.

6909
02:55:29,740 --> 02:55:31,170
I like the enthusiasm this guy

6910
02:55:31,170 --> 02:55:31,560
has.

6911
02:55:31,560 --> 02:55:32,140
I had a point in my program it.

6912
02:55:32,760 --> 02:55:34,940
Jungle Jill and Serpica rules.

6913
02:55:35,560 --> 02:55:37,180
And it took off pretty well.

6914
02:55:37,560 --> 02:55:38,200
I brought it to Berkeley

6915
02:55:38,200 --> 02:55:39,580
Systems in the summer of 96.

6916
02:55:39,980 --> 02:55:40,280
And.

6917
02:55:41,040 --> 02:55:41,720
It's launched now.

6918
02:55:41,800 --> 02:55:41,940
All right.

6919
02:55:41,940 --> 02:55:42,620
Berkeley Systems.

6920
02:55:42,700 --> 02:55:43,400
The other guys who did.

6921
02:55:43,460 --> 02:55:44,160
You don't know Jack.

6922
02:55:44,220 --> 02:55:45,030
Which is one of the most

6923
02:55:45,030 --> 02:55:45,900
successful games.

6924
02:55:45,900 --> 02:55:46,200
Both.

6925
02:55:46,540 --> 02:55:47,360
In software.

6926
02:55:47,520 --> 02:55:48,180
And on the web.

6927
02:55:48,280 --> 02:55:49,700
I'd love to get a full res.

6928
02:55:49,780 --> 02:55:50,540
episode something.

6929
02:55:50,720 --> 02:55:52,160
Just 480p.

6930
02:55:52,400 --> 02:55:52,800
Even you know.

6931
02:55:52,800 --> 02:55:53,660
Not a 240.

6932
02:55:53,660 --> 02:55:54,390
Now what's the relationship

6933
02:55:54,390 --> 02:55:54,660
there?

6934
02:55:54,700 --> 02:55:55,620
Is this in the same place?

6935
02:55:55,780 --> 02:55:56,100
Look.

6936
02:55:56,340 --> 02:55:56,980
I mean.

6937
02:55:57,920 --> 02:55:59,460
Imagine getting 4k.

6938
02:56:00,100 --> 02:56:00,720
Of this.

6939
02:56:03,660 --> 02:56:04,100
Beautiful.

6940
02:56:05,500 --> 02:56:06,630
We might as well mark that as

6941
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:07,760
watched.

6942
02:56:09,260 --> 02:56:10,540
Let's just go back.

6943
02:56:10,540 --> 02:56:12,000
And have a little look there.

6944
02:56:12,460 --> 02:56:13,060
99.

6945
02:56:15,760 --> 02:56:16,680
Online literature.

6946
02:56:17,180 --> 02:56:18,700
Adventure travel online.

6947
02:56:19,420 --> 02:56:21,200
I can't remember her hair.

6948
02:56:22,660 --> 02:56:23,780
Or face.

6949
02:56:30,340 --> 02:56:31,440
Extreme web.

6950
02:56:33,580 --> 02:56:34,180
Post.

6951
02:56:34,360 --> 02:56:35,860
Pacucha Crew and Most.

6952
02:56:37,440 --> 02:56:38,380
Extreme web.

6953
02:56:39,020 --> 02:56:39,240
I mean.

6954
02:56:39,320 --> 02:56:40,300
It sounds like something.

6955
02:56:40,760 --> 02:56:42,060
That's been watched.

6956
02:56:42,340 --> 02:56:42,620
Do you know?

6957
02:56:44,280 --> 02:56:45,360
Webby awards.

6958
02:56:45,940 --> 02:56:47,100
I think we've seen them.

6959
02:56:48,460 --> 02:56:49,060
We were watching.

6960
02:56:49,060 --> 02:56:49,780
The last day.

6961
02:56:49,840 --> 02:56:50,920
Maybe it was a different.

6962
02:56:51,340 --> 02:56:52,800
Iteration of Webby awards.

6963
02:56:54,580 --> 02:56:55,420
It had.

6964
02:56:55,620 --> 02:56:56,480
Your man.

6965
02:56:57,000 --> 02:56:58,040
The Scottish fella.

6966
02:56:58,760 --> 02:57:00,080
With the stupid hair.

6967
02:57:01,080 --> 02:57:02,480
Didn't watch part 2 of it.

6968
02:57:03,340 --> 02:57:04,060
His face.

6969
02:57:04,720 --> 02:57:05,120
Definitely.

6970
02:57:05,340 --> 02:57:05,820
Recognized.

6971
02:57:05,820 --> 02:57:06,840
I've seen him before.

6972
02:57:06,940 --> 02:57:07,700
It's an intense.

6973
02:57:08,800 --> 02:57:09,240
Situation.

6974
02:57:10,940 --> 02:57:11,920
Humor online.

6975
02:57:13,580 --> 02:57:14,580
Personal investing.

6976
02:57:14,580 --> 02:57:14,700
Personal investing.

6977
02:57:14,700 --> 02:57:15,220
Online.

6978
02:57:15,220 --> 02:57:15,260
Online.

6979
02:57:15,260 --> 02:57:17,100
See I've clicked a few of them.

6980
02:57:17,280 --> 02:57:18,420
We've watched a few of them.

6981
02:57:18,540 --> 02:57:18,820
They've been.

6982
02:57:18,940 --> 02:57:19,300
They've been.

6983
02:57:20,160 --> 02:57:20,960
Clicked like.

6984
02:57:21,080 --> 02:57:22,120
But I'm not sure if.

6985
02:57:23,260 --> 02:57:23,760
You know.

6986
02:57:23,760 --> 02:57:24,900
Because we were watching a few

6987
02:57:24,900 --> 02:57:25,400
of these.

6988
02:57:25,540 --> 02:57:26,870
Before Dara even made this

6989
02:57:26,870 --> 02:57:27,500
website.

6990
02:57:28,780 --> 02:57:30,020
Let's just see this one.

6991
02:57:30,360 --> 02:57:31,760
Is this the one we watched the

6992
02:57:31,760 --> 02:57:32,540
last day?

6993
02:57:33,420 --> 02:57:34,000
The Webby's.

6994
02:57:34,840 --> 02:57:36,500
At the Masonic Hall.

6995
02:57:39,500 --> 02:57:40,020
Netcafe.

6996
02:57:40,160 --> 02:57:42,080
The 1999 Webby Awards.

6997
02:57:42,320 --> 02:57:43,960
Notice is a new Webby's.

6998
02:57:44,620 --> 02:57:45,360
It's a new one.

6999
02:57:45,560 --> 02:57:45,900
Thankfully.

7000
02:57:46,340 --> 02:57:47,220
Jimmy Savile.

7001
02:57:47,220 --> 02:57:48,380
Is not being recommended.

7002
02:57:48,560 --> 02:57:49,360
On the more videos.

7003
02:57:50,000 --> 02:57:51,360
Father Ted still is.

7004
02:57:52,360 --> 02:57:52,840
Adam.

7005
02:57:52,960 --> 02:57:53,980
Thank you very much there.

7006
02:57:54,060 --> 02:57:54,700
Give them a tick.

7007
02:57:54,740 --> 02:57:55,460
As you're going to save

7008
02:57:55,460 --> 02:57:55,900
yourself.

7009
02:57:55,900 --> 02:57:56,360
In the future.

7010
02:57:56,620 --> 02:57:57,940
I just did there Adam.

7011
02:57:57,940 --> 02:57:58,900
On that last one.

7012
02:57:58,980 --> 02:57:59,620
Thanks very much.

7013
02:57:59,620 --> 02:58:00,180
For the tip.

7014
02:58:02,920 --> 02:58:03,590
Still have to watch the part

7015
02:58:03,590 --> 02:58:04,500
two.

7016
02:58:04,600 --> 02:58:05,560
Of the Webby Awards.

7017
02:58:05,940 --> 02:58:07,040
From the last one.

7018
02:58:07,080 --> 02:58:08,600
But this is 1999.

7019
02:58:09,860 --> 02:58:10,900
Best of the web.

7020
02:58:11,600 --> 02:58:13,040
Best of the web.

7021
02:58:13,280 --> 02:58:13,840
Which you know.

7022
02:58:13,920 --> 02:58:15,360
There's always something there.

7023
02:58:15,560 --> 02:58:16,670
Hopefully the atmosphere is

7024
02:58:16,670 --> 02:58:17,180
better.

7025
02:58:17,540 --> 02:58:18,400
Than it was.

7026
02:58:19,260 --> 02:58:20,940
In the last auditorium.

7027
02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:21,960
The Masonic Hall.

7028
02:58:22,040 --> 02:58:22,860
In San Francisco.

7029
02:58:23,860 --> 02:58:25,260
But even just.

7030
02:58:25,260 --> 02:58:26,800
At this moment here.

7031
02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:29,120
A strange shot.

7032
02:58:29,320 --> 02:58:30,410
Where everybody seems to be

7033
02:58:30,410 --> 02:58:30,980
clapping.

7034
02:58:31,400 --> 02:58:32,700
Except this one individual.

7035
02:58:33,020 --> 02:58:34,290
Turns around and spikes the

7036
02:58:34,290 --> 02:58:34,940
camera.

7037
02:58:35,980 --> 02:58:36,840
Keep your eye here.

7038
02:58:38,500 --> 02:58:39,360
Was that you?

7039
02:58:40,860 --> 02:58:42,240
In the toilet downstairs.

7040
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:45,000
It reeks.

7041
02:58:45,220 --> 02:58:46,250
Haven't heard that one in a

7042
02:58:46,250 --> 02:58:46,760
while.

7043
02:58:46,880 --> 02:58:47,600
Thank you very much.

7044
02:58:47,720 --> 02:58:48,680
Memorable hair.

7045
02:58:49,600 --> 02:58:50,460
For the tip.

7046
02:58:50,860 --> 02:58:51,860
Thanks for streaming today.

7047
02:58:53,400 --> 02:58:54,580
Feeling going well at home.

7048
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:55,460
But really enjoying the stream.

7049
02:58:55,520 --> 02:58:56,140
Thank you very much.

7050
02:58:56,460 --> 02:58:57,440
Look at this here.

7051
02:58:57,540 --> 02:58:58,640
For something ominous.

7052
02:58:59,020 --> 02:59:02,320
No clapping.

7053
02:59:02,900 --> 02:59:03,480
No clapping.

7054
02:59:03,480 --> 02:59:04,720
Just turns.

7055
02:59:04,720 --> 02:59:06,120
And spikes us.

7056
02:59:07,680 --> 02:59:08,280
Very.

7057
02:59:08,460 --> 02:59:09,360
Very strange stuff.

7058
02:59:09,480 --> 02:59:09,800
Indeed.

7059
02:59:19,300 --> 02:59:21,160
We don't need to labor it.

7060
02:59:21,160 --> 02:59:22,120
San Francisco.

7061
02:59:22,120 --> 02:59:22,200
San Francisco.

7062
02:59:22,200 --> 02:59:23,400
To find out who won.

7063
02:59:23,480 --> 02:59:24,200
San Francisco.

7064
02:59:25,000 --> 02:59:25,980
Website categories.

7065
02:59:26,440 --> 02:59:27,560
Website categories.

7066
02:59:28,280 --> 02:59:29,180
Just make sure that volume is

7067
02:59:29,180 --> 02:59:31,240
increased to the maximum there.

7068
02:59:31,320 --> 02:59:33,220
Because I can't hear it at all.

7069
02:59:33,540 --> 02:59:33,700
I mean.

7070
02:59:33,920 --> 02:59:34,240
I hope.

7071
02:59:34,380 --> 02:59:35,420
Hope you can hear it.

7072
02:59:35,720 --> 02:59:36,060
Because I.

7073
02:59:36,140 --> 02:59:37,900
I'm getting very low on my.

7074
02:59:38,400 --> 02:59:39,500
Well, it's because I'm wearing

7075
02:59:39,500 --> 02:59:39,740
these.

7076
02:59:39,820 --> 02:59:40,800
I don't have...

7077
02:59:40,800 --> 02:59:41,180
No, no.

7078
02:59:42,300 --> 02:59:43,250
Should be able to control it

7079
02:59:43,250 --> 02:59:44,280
from here.

7080
02:59:45,320 --> 02:59:46,300
Hopefully this doesn't fuck the

7081
02:59:46,300 --> 02:59:47,080
audio up.

7082
02:59:47,160 --> 02:59:48,000
Give me a second there.

7083
02:59:48,060 --> 02:59:49,670
I'm trying to have the

7084
02:59:49,670 --> 02:59:51,280
customized...

7085
02:59:56,960 --> 02:59:57,840
Bap, bap, bap.

7086
02:59:58,080 --> 02:59:58,640
Can you hear me?

7087
02:59:58,720 --> 02:59:59,520
Bap, bap, bap.

7088
03:00:01,680 --> 03:00:02,680
Please be careful.

7089
03:00:02,820 --> 03:00:03,520
Bap, bap, bap.

7090
03:00:03,620 --> 03:00:04,400
Can you hear me there?

7091
03:00:04,460 --> 03:00:04,900
Is it okay?

7092
03:00:05,120 --> 03:00:06,300
Is it coming through?

7093
03:00:07,940 --> 03:00:08,980
Yeah, it's coming through.

7094
03:00:09,040 --> 03:00:09,760
You can hear me.

7095
03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:11,980
And my headphones have been

7096
03:00:11,980 --> 03:00:13,060
fixed now.

7097
03:00:13,280 --> 03:00:14,220
Slippery fist.

7098
03:00:15,100 --> 03:00:16,380
Thank you very much there.

7099
03:00:16,740 --> 03:00:18,410
You see, that's a tip towards

7100
03:00:18,410 --> 03:00:20,320
the Santee Blunt t-shirt.

7101
03:00:22,720 --> 03:00:24,240
Which I won't be buying.

7102
03:00:24,880 --> 03:00:25,800
But thank you very much.

7103
03:00:26,680 --> 03:00:28,080
The Webby's coming up next.

7104
03:00:28,400 --> 03:00:29,350
Yeah, I need to increase that

7105
03:00:29,350 --> 03:00:29,800
for you.

7106
03:00:29,860 --> 03:00:30,920
Even though I've tried my best

7107
03:00:30,920 --> 03:00:32,840
there to turn it up a few notches.

7108
03:00:34,060 --> 03:00:34,980
Yeah, there's some funny,

7109
03:00:34,980 --> 03:00:37,520
interesting visuals already.

7110
03:00:37,520 --> 03:00:38,600
What the fuck is she wearing

7111
03:00:38,600 --> 03:00:39,020
there?

7112
03:00:40,300 --> 03:00:41,360
Zoe Wanamaker.

7113
03:00:41,480 --> 03:00:42,780
Or maybe that's the same girl

7114
03:00:42,780 --> 03:00:44,110
from the last one that was

7115
03:00:44,110 --> 03:00:45,940
presenting with Alan Cumming or

7116
03:00:45,940 --> 03:00:47,380
whatever his name is.

7117
03:00:47,940 --> 03:00:49,880
Up there, 6.5.

7118
03:00:50,340 --> 03:00:53,480
Turn it up to 7 or 8 decibels.

7119
03:00:53,940 --> 03:00:54,680
Or 9.

7120
03:00:54,740 --> 03:00:56,280
Let's go 9 on it and see how we

7121
03:00:56,280 --> 03:00:57,260
fare up there.

7122
03:00:57,260 --> 03:00:58,520
Next at the Net Cafe.

7123
03:00:59,600 --> 03:01:01,160
The Net Cafe is made possible

7124
03:01:01,160 --> 03:01:03,880
in part by BigStar.com.

7125
03:01:04,100 --> 03:01:04,780
How about that?

7126
03:01:04,820 --> 03:01:05,400
Is that okay?

7127
03:01:05,960 --> 03:01:07,540
It sounds grand for me now.

7128
03:01:08,660 --> 03:01:09,040
With thousands of...

7129
03:01:09,040 --> 03:01:10,340
COVID-19.

7130
03:01:10,840 --> 03:01:11,960
And that was a bit loud there.

7131
03:01:12,040 --> 03:01:12,440
Sounds good.

7132
03:01:12,520 --> 03:01:12,960
Spasmoid.

7133
03:01:13,000 --> 03:01:13,580
Thank you very much.

7134
03:01:14,440 --> 03:01:15,720
Handheld portal device.

7135
03:01:15,780 --> 03:01:16,900
Videos and DVDs.

7136
03:01:16,900 --> 03:01:18,800
Who says, stew forever.

7137
03:01:18,800 --> 03:01:20,160
For the whole family.

7138
03:01:21,480 --> 03:01:23,210
Now we're taking a risk with

7139
03:01:23,210 --> 03:01:23,860
the Webbys.

7140
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:25,110
You know it's going to have

7141
03:01:25,110 --> 03:01:26,820
some interesting visuals in it.

7142
03:01:27,180 --> 03:01:28,170
But there will be a lack of

7143
03:01:28,170 --> 03:01:28,660
stew.

7144
03:01:29,160 --> 03:01:30,350
And that departure kind of, you

7145
03:01:30,350 --> 03:01:31,480
know, it's never...

7146
03:01:32,460 --> 03:01:33,730
Look, let's just see how we get

7147
03:01:33,730 --> 03:01:34,260
on.

7148
03:01:35,020 --> 03:01:35,740
We can always just dip out

7149
03:01:35,740 --> 03:01:36,960
again, you know.

7150
03:01:38,340 --> 03:01:40,280
But I do like to interrogate

7151
03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:42,300
each and every piece of media

7152
03:01:42,300 --> 03:01:43,380
to the hilt.

7153
03:01:44,360 --> 03:01:45,300
And see it through.

7154
03:01:47,480 --> 03:01:47,880
I don't think Cummings is in

7155
03:01:47,880 --> 03:01:49,020
this one.

7156
03:01:49,020 --> 03:01:49,760
Computers and video.

7157
03:01:50,220 --> 03:01:51,600
With DVD authoring and MPEG

7158
03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:53,160
encoding services.

7159
03:01:55,360 --> 03:01:57,060
Hi and welcome to the Net Cafe.

7160
03:01:57,260 --> 03:01:57,780
I'm here with...

7161
03:01:57,780 --> 03:01:58,740
That's sensational.

7162
03:01:58,920 --> 03:02:00,260
Great quality visual.

7163
03:02:00,560 --> 03:02:01,700
Great quality audio.

7164
03:02:02,900 --> 03:02:03,970
Just, you want to see more of

7165
03:02:03,970 --> 03:02:04,680
this.

7166
03:02:05,040 --> 03:02:06,740
You know, we want loads of this.

7167
03:02:06,940 --> 03:02:07,720
But we're not going to get

7168
03:02:07,720 --> 03:02:08,280
loads of it.

7169
03:02:08,600 --> 03:02:09,670
With Rebecca Eisenberg and

7170
03:02:09,670 --> 03:02:10,680
Andrew DeVries.

7171
03:02:10,780 --> 03:02:12,140
And we have a very special...

7172
03:02:12,140 --> 03:02:13,400
Who's Eisenberg?

7173
03:02:13,540 --> 03:02:14,660
Where's Jane?

7174
03:02:15,920 --> 03:02:17,960
They replaced Jane with Eisenberg.

7175
03:02:18,180 --> 03:02:19,520
Hi and welcome to the Net Cafe.

7176
03:02:19,700 --> 03:02:21,010
I'm here with Rebecca Eisenberg

7177
03:02:21,010 --> 03:02:22,120
and Andrew DeVries.

7178
03:02:22,120 --> 03:02:23,600
And we have a very special show

7179
03:02:23,600 --> 03:02:24,440
for you tonight.

7180
03:02:24,580 --> 03:02:26,500
The 1999 Webby Awards.

7181
03:02:26,920 --> 03:02:28,080
The best 22 websites of the

7182
03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:29,590
year, if it's possible to say

7183
03:02:29,590 --> 03:02:30,120
that.

7184
03:02:30,340 --> 03:02:30,520
Yeah.

7185
03:02:30,780 --> 03:02:32,300
Categories ranging from art to

7186
03:02:32,300 --> 03:02:32,780
weird.

7187
03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:33,440
And Rebecca...

7188
03:02:33,440 --> 03:02:34,540
Lovely stuff.

7189
03:02:35,320 --> 03:02:36,420
Art to weird.

7190
03:02:36,460 --> 03:02:37,620
You have this glowing column in

7191
03:02:37,620 --> 03:02:38,830
your newspaper column about the

7192
03:02:38,830 --> 03:02:39,340
Webby's.

7193
03:02:39,380 --> 03:02:40,400
I thought you were going to be

7194
03:02:40,400 --> 03:02:41,200
critical and cynical.

7195
03:02:41,380 --> 03:02:42,900
Well, already there is good

7196
03:02:42,900 --> 03:02:44,820
vibes coming from Eisenberg.

7197
03:02:45,060 --> 03:02:46,300
And Stu's, they're both happy

7198
03:02:46,300 --> 03:02:47,620
with each other there.

7199
03:02:47,900 --> 03:02:48,680
So, I mean...

7200
03:02:48,680 --> 03:02:50,670
Maybe she's a good replacement

7201
03:02:50,670 --> 03:02:51,440
for Jane.

7202
03:02:51,520 --> 03:02:52,100
But it's sad.

7203
03:02:52,220 --> 03:02:54,160
If Jane was replaced in 1999.

7204
03:02:54,520 --> 03:02:54,800
You loved it.

7205
03:02:55,140 --> 03:02:55,920
I did love it.

7206
03:02:55,980 --> 03:02:57,070
You know, I loved it primarily

7207
03:02:57,070 --> 03:02:58,000
because of the party.

7208
03:02:58,320 --> 03:02:59,200
Have we seen this?

7209
03:02:59,200 --> 03:03:01,000
I remember Eisenberg from

7210
03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:03,000
before, from somewhere.

7211
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:04,520
Maybe she featured as a guest.

7212
03:03:05,580 --> 03:03:06,120
Let's just see.

7213
03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:06,840
Ah, okay.

7214
03:03:07,380 --> 03:03:08,320
Yeah, I mean, this year, you

7215
03:03:08,320 --> 03:03:09,660
know, I loved it primarily

7216
03:03:09,660 --> 03:03:10,960
because of the party.

7217
03:03:11,180 --> 03:03:12,060
Ah, okay.

7218
03:03:12,500 --> 03:03:14,060
Yeah, I mean, this year the Webby's

7219
03:03:14,060 --> 03:03:15,360
had some pretty wealthy

7220
03:03:15,360 --> 03:03:16,160
sponsors.

7221
03:03:18,120 --> 03:03:20,060
Thank you very much, Darren.

7222
03:03:20,920 --> 03:03:22,170
Great to see the Shafé Crackers

7223
03:03:22,170 --> 03:03:22,780
back.

7224
03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:24,560
It's always, always a pleasure.

7225
03:03:24,700 --> 03:03:25,340
Thank you very much.

7226
03:03:25,380 --> 03:03:27,390
And thank you very much for

7227
03:03:27,390 --> 03:03:29,660
facilitating this with your

7228
03:03:29,660 --> 03:03:31,460
extensive website.

7229
03:03:31,840 --> 03:03:33,150
I haven't used any of these

7230
03:03:33,150 --> 03:03:34,080
today yet.

7231
03:03:34,620 --> 03:03:35,920
Let's maybe hopefully get

7232
03:03:35,920 --> 03:03:37,900
something out of this here.

7233
03:03:37,960 --> 03:03:39,170
but I like to use them for the

7234
03:03:39,170 --> 03:03:40,280
studio-based shows.

7235
03:03:40,600 --> 03:03:41,700
Intel and others, that pumped a

7236
03:03:41,700 --> 03:03:42,760
lot of money into it.

7237
03:03:42,760 --> 03:03:43,750
Sort of a more corporate Webby's

7238
03:03:43,750 --> 03:03:44,860
than, I guess, the first couple

7239
03:03:44,860 --> 03:03:45,280
of years.

7240
03:03:45,300 --> 03:03:45,860
Right, it was a lot more

7241
03:03:45,860 --> 03:03:46,240
corporate.

7242
03:03:46,360 --> 03:03:47,860
And the result was a lot more

7243
03:03:47,860 --> 03:03:49,640
free food and free drinks.

7244
03:03:50,100 --> 03:03:50,820
And, you know, a lot...

7245
03:03:50,820 --> 03:03:51,940
I know the party was weird.

7246
03:03:51,960 --> 03:03:52,780
What about the awards?

7247
03:03:52,920 --> 03:03:53,360
Websites?

7248
03:03:53,560 --> 03:03:54,180
The awards.

7249
03:03:54,460 --> 03:03:55,880
That is too...

7250
03:03:55,880 --> 03:03:57,240
Let us get...

7251
03:03:57,240 --> 03:03:58,220
We're having fun.

7252
03:03:58,220 --> 03:03:59,520
But let's just remember what

7253
03:03:59,520 --> 03:04:00,900
the core principle of the show

7254
03:04:00,900 --> 03:04:02,340
is to talk about the awards.

7255
03:04:02,860 --> 03:04:03,470
Right, it was a lot more

7256
03:04:03,470 --> 03:04:04,200
corporate.

7257
03:04:04,360 --> 03:04:05,880
And the result was a lot more

7258
03:04:05,880 --> 03:04:07,680
free food and free drinks.

7259
03:04:07,680 --> 03:04:08,680
And, you know...

7260
03:04:08,680 --> 03:04:09,920
But I know the party was weird.

7261
03:04:09,940 --> 03:04:10,760
What about the awards?

7262
03:04:10,880 --> 03:04:11,340
Websites?

7263
03:04:11,420 --> 03:04:11,980
That kind of stuff.

7264
03:04:12,020 --> 03:04:12,100
Websites?

7265
03:04:12,100 --> 03:04:13,210
Well, the awards themselves,

7266
03:04:13,210 --> 03:04:14,060
you know, that was great

7267
03:04:14,060 --> 03:04:15,100
because they were short.

7268
03:04:15,560 --> 03:04:16,740
The acceptance speeches were

7269
03:04:16,740 --> 03:04:18,250
gratefully limited to five

7270
03:04:18,250 --> 03:04:20,340
words, which people maintained.

7271
03:04:20,800 --> 03:04:21,980
Some in some very interesting

7272
03:04:21,980 --> 03:04:22,620
fashion.

7273
03:04:22,920 --> 03:04:24,640
We were called a commercial scum.

7274
03:04:24,740 --> 03:04:25,120
Right.

7275
03:04:25,200 --> 03:04:26,140
By the website.

7276
03:04:26,140 --> 03:04:26,800
An even worse language.

7277
03:04:26,800 --> 03:04:29,160
I think I remember hearing this

7278
03:04:29,160 --> 03:04:30,700
commercial scum.

7279
03:04:32,040 --> 03:04:32,540
Language, I think.

7280
03:04:32,560 --> 03:04:33,040
Fashion.

7281
03:04:33,320 --> 03:04:35,060
We were called a commercial scum.

7282
03:04:35,140 --> 03:04:35,520
Right.

7283
03:04:35,580 --> 03:04:36,520
By the website.

7284
03:04:36,520 --> 03:04:37,660
An even worse language, I think.

7285
03:04:37,660 --> 03:04:38,280
Right, right.

7286
03:04:38,400 --> 03:04:39,530
So I thought that made it short

7287
03:04:39,530 --> 03:04:40,020
as good.

7288
03:04:40,220 --> 03:04:41,060
Andrew, what did you think?

7289
03:04:41,300 --> 03:04:42,360
Well, you know, if this is

7290
03:04:42,360 --> 03:04:43,890
supposed to emulate the Academy

7291
03:04:43,890 --> 03:04:45,350
Awards, to me, it's missing

7292
03:04:45,350 --> 03:04:46,060
something.

7293
03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:46,340
All right?

7294
03:04:46,460 --> 03:04:47,600
I'm kind of a Hollywood kind of

7295
03:04:47,600 --> 03:04:47,960
guy.

7296
03:04:47,960 --> 03:04:48,820
I want the beautiful people.

7297
03:04:49,040 --> 03:04:50,070
I haven't even gotten to the

7298
03:04:50,070 --> 03:04:50,820
episode yet.

7299
03:04:50,940 --> 03:04:52,500
And he's slagging it off.

7300
03:04:52,560 --> 03:04:53,440
You know, I want celebrities.

7301
03:04:53,560 --> 03:04:54,060
I want stars.

7302
03:04:54,300 --> 03:04:55,420
The web is really about, you

7303
03:04:55,420 --> 03:04:56,800
know, creating...

7304
03:04:56,800 --> 03:04:57,600
I got that vibe.

7305
03:04:57,600 --> 03:04:58,790
I got that vibe from the last

7306
03:04:58,790 --> 03:05:00,220
one we watched, you know, where

7307
03:05:00,220 --> 03:05:01,540
they were taking the piss.

7308
03:05:02,160 --> 03:05:03,230
They didn't treat it like it

7309
03:05:03,230 --> 03:05:04,300
was a proper award show.

7310
03:05:04,300 --> 03:05:05,550
And some of the people's

7311
03:05:05,550 --> 03:05:07,000
acceptance speeches were

7312
03:05:07,000 --> 03:05:08,640
terrible and just bizarre.

7313
03:05:08,640 --> 03:05:09,340
The stores.

7314
03:05:09,700 --> 03:05:10,840
It's really, to me, not so much

7315
03:05:10,840 --> 03:05:11,950
about Hollywood and

7316
03:05:11,950 --> 03:05:12,760
entertainment.

7317
03:05:12,940 --> 03:05:14,110
So you've got to get a few more

7318
03:05:14,110 --> 03:05:15,640
celebrities there to really wow

7319
03:05:15,640 --> 03:05:16,000
me.

7320
03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:17,100
But the idea of recognizing

7321
03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:18,260
great websites is probably a

7322
03:05:18,260 --> 03:05:18,840
good one.

7323
03:05:18,960 --> 03:05:19,260
I agree.

7324
03:05:19,300 --> 03:05:20,630
And the best websites are made

7325
03:05:20,630 --> 03:05:21,220
by geeks.

7326
03:05:21,400 --> 03:05:22,980
And geeks are geeks.

7327
03:05:23,080 --> 03:05:23,640
All right.

7328
03:05:23,920 --> 03:05:24,700
Well, we're going to take you

7329
03:05:24,700 --> 03:05:25,680
to the Herbst Theatre.

7330
03:05:25,860 --> 03:05:26,820
I think we've seen it.

7331
03:05:26,980 --> 03:05:28,080
Somebody there said that we

7332
03:05:28,080 --> 03:05:28,660
haven't.

7333
03:05:28,700 --> 03:05:29,440
I think we've seen it.

7334
03:05:29,500 --> 03:05:31,090
San Francisco right now for the

7335
03:05:31,090 --> 03:05:32,780
1999 Webby Awards.

7336
03:05:33,060 --> 03:05:33,900
No, not seen it.

7337
03:05:36,200 --> 03:05:38,440
Feather boar and knots and ones

7338
03:05:38,440 --> 03:05:40,020
on that.

7339
03:05:40,080 --> 03:05:41,680
Is that Eisenberg there that we've

7340
03:05:41,680 --> 03:05:42,340
just seen?

7341
03:05:42,600 --> 03:05:43,430
Is that what she wore to the

7342
03:05:43,430 --> 03:05:44,200
fucking thing?

7343
03:05:45,480 --> 03:05:46,210
Fair play to her if she did do

7344
03:05:46,210 --> 03:05:46,800
that.

7345
03:05:46,840 --> 03:05:47,540
It looks like her.

7346
03:05:48,420 --> 03:05:49,180
Same face.

7347
03:05:57,440 --> 03:05:55,240
The Webby's is San Francisco's

7348
03:05:55,240 --> 03:06:00,220
version of the Oscars.

7349
03:06:00,560 --> 03:06:01,620
The Academy Awards.

7350
03:06:01,840 --> 03:06:02,900
Well, it's not different hair.

7351
03:06:03,280 --> 03:06:05,330
And the event comes complete

7352
03:06:05,330 --> 03:06:06,600
with limos.

7353
03:06:07,160 --> 03:06:07,600
A red carpet.

7354
03:06:07,900 --> 03:06:08,500
Limos.

7355
03:06:08,900 --> 03:06:10,460
An adoring press.

7356
03:06:10,860 --> 03:06:12,440
And weird outfits.

7357
03:06:12,720 --> 03:06:13,600
This is exactly.

7358
03:06:14,060 --> 03:06:15,680
Again, Deja Stew.

7359
03:06:16,340 --> 03:06:17,040
Didn't he say the exact same

7360
03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:17,540
stuff.

7361
03:06:17,540 --> 03:06:19,140
Same stuff about the last Webby

7362
03:06:19,140 --> 03:06:20,750
Awards episode where it's like

7363
03:06:20,750 --> 03:06:21,640
weird stuff.

7364
03:06:22,540 --> 03:06:23,260
Celebrities.

7365
03:06:24,140 --> 03:06:25,160
Red carpets.

7366
03:06:26,140 --> 03:06:27,180
Weird hair.

7367
03:06:27,720 --> 03:06:29,080
A red carpet.

7368
03:06:29,540 --> 03:06:30,580
An adoring press.

7369
03:06:30,960 --> 03:06:32,380
And weird outfits.

7370
03:06:32,900 --> 03:06:34,720
It's identical to the last Webby

7371
03:06:34,720 --> 03:06:36,200
Awards they did.

7372
03:06:36,640 --> 03:06:37,480
That lad there wearing a

7373
03:06:37,480 --> 03:06:38,560
fucking...

7374
03:06:38,560 --> 03:06:39,560
A digital camera.

7375
03:06:39,560 --> 03:06:40,520
A digital camera.

7376
03:06:40,520 --> 03:06:42,400
And looking very suspicious

7377
03:06:42,400 --> 03:06:43,700
whilst doing it.

7378
03:06:43,780 --> 03:06:44,990
Wearing a digital camera around

7379
03:06:44,990 --> 03:06:45,500
his neck.

7380
03:06:48,140 --> 03:06:50,340
And he's got a piece of cheese.

7381
03:06:50,720 --> 03:06:52,100
A piece of cheese.

7382
03:06:52,600 --> 03:06:54,980
And a wine glass to boot.

7383
03:06:58,480 --> 03:07:00,100
And I'll say now.

7384
03:07:00,100 --> 03:07:02,040
It's Vladimir fucking Putin.

7385
03:07:02,140 --> 03:07:03,040
That's what it is.

7386
03:07:03,200 --> 03:07:04,440
I've realized.

7387
03:07:05,280 --> 03:07:06,680
That it is Vladimir fucking

7388
03:07:06,680 --> 03:07:07,500
Putin.

7389
03:07:07,740 --> 03:07:08,500
In disguise.

7390
03:07:08,860 --> 03:07:10,300
In 1999.

7391
03:07:12,020 --> 03:07:13,380
Holy shit.

7392
03:07:14,760 --> 03:07:15,440
I knew it.

7393
03:07:15,540 --> 03:07:16,940
I knew something wasn't right.

7394
03:07:17,020 --> 03:07:18,330
Something wasn't sitting right

7395
03:07:18,330 --> 03:07:19,300
with me at the time.

7396
03:07:21,340 --> 03:07:21,940
Moments.

7397
03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:22,420
Hours.

7398
03:07:22,580 --> 03:07:23,500
Days before.

7399
03:07:23,740 --> 03:07:25,300
Years before the attack.

7400
03:07:25,800 --> 03:07:26,580
In Ukraine.

7401
03:07:27,860 --> 03:07:28,880
He was there.

7402
03:07:28,980 --> 03:07:30,480
Eating fucking cheese.

7403
03:07:31,000 --> 03:07:32,320
And drinking wine.

7404
03:07:32,520 --> 03:07:34,530
And looking very suspicious

7405
03:07:34,530 --> 03:07:36,040
about it as well.

7406
03:07:36,340 --> 03:07:38,040
And the resemblance just gets

7407
03:07:38,040 --> 03:07:39,520
even more uncanny.

7408
03:07:39,620 --> 03:07:40,540
Keep that music going there

7409
03:07:40,540 --> 03:07:40,960
please.

7410
03:07:41,780 --> 03:07:44,010
That gets even more uncanny and

7411
03:07:44,010 --> 03:07:45,200
bizarre.

7412
03:07:46,860 --> 03:07:48,440
As the time goes on.

7413
03:07:48,440 --> 03:08:02,620
Georgie Pie.

7414
03:08:02,720 --> 03:08:03,600
Thank you very much.

7415
03:08:09,180 --> 03:08:09,980
I don't know.

7416
03:08:10,360 --> 03:08:11,360
I've got a bad.

7417
03:08:11,480 --> 03:08:12,080
Bad.

7418
03:08:12,900 --> 03:08:13,300
Feeling.

7419
03:08:14,060 --> 03:08:15,220
I've got a bad feeling about

7420
03:08:15,220 --> 03:08:16,120
this one.

7421
03:08:16,120 --> 03:08:19,640
And look.

7422
03:08:19,680 --> 03:08:20,200
He dips out.

7423
03:08:20,260 --> 03:08:21,600
He realizes he's on camera.

7424
03:08:21,680 --> 03:08:22,520
And he turns away.

7425
03:08:22,920 --> 03:08:24,080
And then these guys.

7426
03:08:24,860 --> 03:08:26,400
Fucking eyes wide shut.

7427
03:08:29,240 --> 03:08:30,940
Eyes wide shut all the way.

7428
03:08:30,980 --> 03:08:32,350
I don't know who that lad is

7429
03:08:32,350 --> 03:08:32,920
there.

7430
03:08:33,640 --> 03:08:34,480
Or herself.

7431
03:08:34,700 --> 03:08:37,140
They look like they're about to

7432
03:08:37,140 --> 03:08:39,600
attend some kind of ball.

7433
03:08:41,640 --> 03:08:42,160
Yeah.

7434
03:08:42,400 --> 03:08:44,140
Keep your eyes on the Donbass.

7435
03:08:44,140 --> 03:08:44,860
Red carpet.

7436
03:08:45,320 --> 03:08:46,380
An adoring press.

7437
03:08:46,800 --> 03:08:48,380
And weird outfits.

7438
03:08:48,620 --> 03:08:49,220
And we have.

7439
03:08:49,940 --> 03:08:50,700
Holy shit.

7440
03:08:54,800 --> 03:08:55,280
Yeah.

7441
03:08:55,360 --> 03:08:55,520
Yeah.

7442
03:08:55,560 --> 03:08:56,680
It's just there isn't it.

7443
03:08:56,960 --> 03:08:58,160
Where he clocked us.

7444
03:09:00,480 --> 03:09:02,040
And then the look away.

7445
03:09:02,140 --> 03:09:02,880
And the move on.

7446
03:09:06,780 --> 03:09:07,220
Evil.

7447
03:09:07,320 --> 03:09:07,980
Evil stuff.

7448
03:09:09,020 --> 03:09:10,340
At the Webby Awards.

7449
03:09:12,100 --> 03:09:13,960
But the real action of the Webby.

7450
03:09:14,200 --> 03:09:14,760
Oh God.

7451
03:09:14,760 --> 03:09:14,760
Oh God.

7452
03:09:14,860 --> 03:09:15,260
Look at this.

7453
03:09:15,680 --> 03:09:17,880
He's as at the Oscars is insane.

7454
03:09:18,580 --> 03:09:18,980
God.

7455
03:09:19,660 --> 03:09:20,550
I wonder if there's a sweat

7456
03:09:20,550 --> 03:09:22,140
patch underneath that.

7457
03:09:22,240 --> 03:09:22,880
You can't see.

7458
03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:26,000
It might be a Velcro shirt.

7459
03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:26,480
Or a.

7460
03:09:26,600 --> 03:09:27,860
I wouldn't say Velcro.

7461
03:09:27,980 --> 03:09:29,340
But it has that kind of matte

7462
03:09:29,340 --> 03:09:31,020
satiny sort of finish on it.

7463
03:09:31,480 --> 03:09:32,850
Where you can't really see if

7464
03:09:32,850 --> 03:09:34,540
he's got sweat patches.

7465
03:09:34,540 --> 03:09:35,900
Inside the auditorium.

7466
03:09:36,360 --> 03:09:36,740
And it's on.

7467
03:09:36,740 --> 03:09:37,440
What about the.

7468
03:09:37,800 --> 03:09:37,960
No.

7469
03:09:38,000 --> 03:09:38,380
We'll see it.

7470
03:09:38,420 --> 03:09:39,060
We'll see it in due course.

7471
03:09:39,060 --> 03:09:40,850
All about being recognized by

7472
03:09:40,850 --> 03:09:43,040
your peers for outstanding work.

7473
03:09:43,180 --> 03:09:43,430
This is going to be five

7474
03:09:43,430 --> 03:09:43,680
minutes.

7475
03:09:43,680 --> 03:09:45,200
The official Webby's mistress

7476
03:09:45,200 --> 03:09:45,900
of awards.

7477
03:09:45,900 --> 03:09:46,040
What score?

7478
03:09:46,340 --> 03:09:47,280
Webby's mistress.

7479
03:09:47,900 --> 03:09:49,260
The lovely Marina Berlin.

7480
03:09:49,620 --> 03:09:50,760
Marina Berlin.

7481
03:09:50,900 --> 03:09:52,520
Any relation to Violet Berlin.

7482
03:09:52,520 --> 03:09:54,530
Who was a tech correspondent on

7483
03:09:54,530 --> 03:09:55,820
video game show.

7484
03:09:56,380 --> 03:09:57,500
Bad influence.

7485
03:09:58,280 --> 03:10:00,040
And other stuff I think for

7486
03:10:00,040 --> 03:10:00,900
Bravo TV.

7487
03:10:01,680 --> 03:10:02,920
In the late 90s.

7488
03:10:03,220 --> 03:10:04,440
Early 90s as well.

7489
03:10:04,440 --> 03:10:06,480
And the emcee for the 1999 Webby

7490
03:10:06,480 --> 03:10:07,520
Awards ceremony.

7491
03:10:07,840 --> 03:10:09,240
Was comedian Mark Maron.

7492
03:10:09,360 --> 03:10:10,320
Who began by.

7493
03:10:10,640 --> 03:10:11,700
Mark Maron.

7494
03:10:12,200 --> 03:10:13,400
Is that Mark Maron?

7495
03:10:13,440 --> 03:10:14,340
The fucking podcast.

7496
03:10:14,480 --> 03:10:14,940
Mark Maron.

7497
03:10:15,140 --> 03:10:15,640
Look at this.

7498
03:10:15,960 --> 03:10:17,180
The transformation.

7499
03:10:18,060 --> 03:10:19,900
A maximum of five words.

7500
03:10:20,480 --> 03:10:20,930
Now I just want to make sure

7501
03:10:20,930 --> 03:10:21,540
that we're.

7502
03:10:21,900 --> 03:10:22,850
All on the same page here about

7503
03:10:22,850 --> 03:10:23,260
this.

7504
03:10:23,300 --> 03:10:23,740
It is.

7505
03:10:23,840 --> 03:10:25,280
Five word acceptance speech.

7506
03:10:26,340 --> 03:10:27,140
If anyone.

7507
03:10:27,440 --> 03:10:28,820
Look at how different he is.

7508
03:10:29,260 --> 03:10:30,320
I mean I know people will go.

7509
03:10:30,460 --> 03:10:31,720
Yeah people change man.

7510
03:10:31,800 --> 03:10:32,380
Get over it.

7511
03:10:32,460 --> 03:10:34,280
But people do fucking change.

7512
03:10:34,400 --> 03:10:35,400
I mean I think he has a beard.

7513
03:10:35,660 --> 03:10:36,220
Now you know.

7514
03:10:36,420 --> 03:10:37,480
Seeds the five words.

7515
03:10:37,560 --> 03:10:38,210
They will be promptly

7516
03:10:38,210 --> 03:10:39,160
disciplined by Marina.

7517
03:10:39,380 --> 03:10:40,480
And what's going on here?

7518
03:10:49,220 --> 03:10:50,580
It's a great situation.

7519
03:10:51,380 --> 03:10:52,320
The five words.

7520
03:10:52,380 --> 03:10:53,120
They will be promptly

7521
03:10:53,120 --> 03:10:54,060
disciplined by Marina.

7522
03:10:55,880 --> 03:10:57,070
I know to some that will be an

7523
03:10:57,070 --> 03:10:57,780
incentive.

7524
03:11:00,300 --> 03:11:02,620
So try to behave yourselves.

7525
03:11:03,420 --> 03:11:03,780
Let me give you a couple

7526
03:11:03,780 --> 03:11:05,210
examples of what five words

7527
03:11:05,210 --> 03:11:06,080
sounds like.

7528
03:11:06,140 --> 03:11:06,720
Because I'm sure you haven't

7529
03:11:06,720 --> 03:11:07,460
really thought it through.

7530
03:11:07,600 --> 03:11:07,720
Okay.

7531
03:11:07,760 --> 03:11:08,380
Like for example.

7532
03:11:08,740 --> 03:11:09,980
Like you come up and you go.

7533
03:11:10,360 --> 03:11:10,900
Oh there's so many.

7534
03:11:10,980 --> 03:11:14,480
It's a real late 90s air cell.

7535
03:11:14,820 --> 03:11:15,360
Or did you.

7536
03:11:15,440 --> 03:11:16,720
Is that digiphone.

7537
03:11:17,720 --> 03:11:18,560
Republica.

7538
03:11:18,780 --> 03:11:21,140
Baby I'm ready to go.

7539
03:11:21,560 --> 03:11:22,420
I'm back.

7540
03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:23,720
I'm ready to go.

7541
03:11:23,780 --> 03:11:25,230
Remember in that video she was

7542
03:11:25,230 --> 03:11:26,780
wearing all that weird shit.

7543
03:11:27,440 --> 03:11:28,370
This was the big thing around

7544
03:11:28,370 --> 03:11:29,920
99, 2000.

7545
03:11:30,080 --> 03:11:31,060
The dot com bubble.

7546
03:11:31,720 --> 03:11:32,800
This stuff.

7547
03:11:33,460 --> 03:11:34,180
How many people.

7548
03:11:34,340 --> 03:11:35,000
Nah you're done.

7549
03:11:36,740 --> 03:11:36,960
Alright.

7550
03:11:37,500 --> 03:11:37,940
Air cell.

7551
03:11:38,020 --> 03:11:38,580
It was air cell.

7552
03:11:38,680 --> 03:11:39,280
Oh eight seven.

7553
03:11:39,440 --> 03:11:40,060
Ten euro.

7554
03:11:40,200 --> 03:11:40,920
Ten pound.

7555
03:11:41,180 --> 03:11:41,640
Top up.

7556
03:11:42,920 --> 03:11:43,140
Or.

7557
03:11:43,300 --> 03:11:44,780
Baby I'm ready to go.

7558
03:11:44,860 --> 03:11:45,580
Here's another example.

7559
03:11:45,720 --> 03:11:46,860
God where do I start.

7560
03:11:47,040 --> 03:11:47,460
You ended.

7561
03:11:47,620 --> 03:11:49,320
Maybe even air cell sponsored.

7562
03:11:50,140 --> 03:11:53,740
The Jordan formula one team.

7563
03:11:54,020 --> 03:11:56,960
I might be guessing wrong there.

7564
03:11:57,140 --> 03:11:57,360
That's it.

7565
03:11:57,640 --> 03:11:57,840
Alright.

7566
03:11:58,660 --> 03:12:00,340
Or I really can't believe.

7567
03:12:00,600 --> 03:12:01,500
See that's only four.

7568
03:12:01,680 --> 03:12:02,440
And if it's only one thing you

7569
03:12:02,440 --> 03:12:03,060
can't believe.

7570
03:12:03,200 --> 03:12:03,760
That's perfect.

7571
03:12:06,320 --> 03:12:07,200
Space boy.

7572
03:12:08,060 --> 03:12:09,440
The omega boys.

7573
03:12:12,160 --> 03:12:12,720
Oh.

7574
03:12:12,920 --> 03:12:13,440
Here we go.

7575
03:12:13,480 --> 03:12:13,780
You ready?

7576
03:12:14,560 --> 03:12:16,180
Our first category is arts.

7577
03:12:16,560 --> 03:12:17,990
Does she speak or does she just

7578
03:12:17,990 --> 03:12:18,620
emote?

7579
03:12:18,760 --> 03:12:19,810
Because there were some

7580
03:12:19,810 --> 03:12:20,780
fantastic emotes.

7581
03:12:21,360 --> 03:12:22,540
That she was doing there.

7582
03:12:28,240 --> 03:12:28,840
Oh.

7583
03:12:29,080 --> 03:12:29,600
Here we go.

7584
03:12:29,660 --> 03:12:29,940
You ready?

7585
03:12:30,720 --> 03:12:32,340
Our first category is arts.

7586
03:12:33,660 --> 03:12:34,600
And now.

7587
03:12:35,100 --> 03:12:36,120
The nominees.

7588
03:12:36,660 --> 03:12:37,080
For arts.

7589
03:12:37,300 --> 03:12:37,640
Are.

7590
03:12:46,120 --> 03:12:47,480
Doors of perception.

7591
03:12:48,080 --> 03:12:49,180
Open them wide open.

7592
03:12:49,840 --> 03:12:50,730
Give it up for your friends

7593
03:12:50,730 --> 03:12:51,400
people.

7594
03:12:54,560 --> 03:12:55,760
Jody.org.

7595
03:12:56,100 --> 03:12:56,520
Jody.

7596
03:13:00,920 --> 03:13:02,200
Jody.org.

7597
03:13:02,380 --> 03:13:02,760
Again.

7598
03:13:02,860 --> 03:13:03,840
It's risky isn't it?

7599
03:13:03,900 --> 03:13:04,700
We're on stream.

7600
03:13:05,420 --> 03:13:07,000
I went to Jody.org.

7601
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:15,260
I'm just going to get ready to

7602
03:13:15,260 --> 03:13:16,160
close very quickly.

7603
03:13:22,940 --> 03:13:23,340
Wow.

7604
03:13:24,340 --> 03:13:25,400
It's exactly what I was hoping

7605
03:13:25,400 --> 03:13:26,440
it would be.

7606
03:13:28,440 --> 03:13:29,620
Human versus human.

7607
03:13:29,760 --> 03:13:30,980
Computer versus computer.

7608
03:13:31,220 --> 03:13:32,120
AI versus AI.

7609
03:13:32,280 --> 03:13:33,700
Chicken versus computer.

7610
03:13:34,480 --> 03:13:35,440
Dare I click one of these

7611
03:13:35,440 --> 03:13:36,820
fucking links?

7612
03:13:38,320 --> 03:13:39,590
I'm going to go for computer

7613
03:13:39,590 --> 03:13:40,580
versus computer.

7614
03:13:40,580 --> 03:13:41,770
Because you don't know what you're

7615
03:13:41,770 --> 03:13:42,700
going to see if you click on

7616
03:13:42,700 --> 03:13:43,480
human or chicken.

7617
03:13:46,000 --> 03:13:47,540
And again I'm going to have.

7618
03:13:48,220 --> 03:13:48,700
The.

7619
03:13:49,160 --> 03:13:49,620
The.

7620
03:13:49,700 --> 03:13:51,840
The shortcut for close window.

7621
03:13:54,000 --> 03:13:55,060
Ready to go.

7622
03:13:56,140 --> 03:13:57,440
Ready to go.

7623
03:13:57,440 --> 03:13:57,760
Oh.

7624
03:14:00,340 --> 03:14:01,440
What's a game look.

7625
03:14:03,000 --> 03:14:03,780
You're watching.

7626
03:14:04,280 --> 03:14:05,260
X's and O's.

7627
03:14:05,380 --> 03:14:06,320
Played by a computer.

7628
03:14:08,480 --> 03:14:09,240
What about.

7629
03:14:09,580 --> 03:14:10,920
Human versus computer.

7630
03:14:11,080 --> 03:14:12,320
Will I be involved in that?

7631
03:14:15,820 --> 03:14:16,420
Sorry there.

7632
03:14:17,560 --> 03:14:18,760
Well then I'll go here.

7633
03:14:21,400 --> 03:14:22,000
Sorry there.

7634
03:14:22,060 --> 03:14:22,920
That's very loud.

7635
03:14:24,740 --> 03:14:25,990
I'm not going to continue with

7636
03:14:25,990 --> 03:14:26,360
this.

7637
03:14:26,680 --> 03:14:27,660
I would like to see if I win

7638
03:14:27,660 --> 03:14:28,260
though.

7639
03:14:30,200 --> 03:14:30,810
Would like to see if I win this

7640
03:14:30,810 --> 03:14:32,800
game of X's and O's.

7641
03:14:39,060 --> 03:14:40,320
Oh I got beat.

7642
03:14:41,200 --> 03:14:41,680
Fuck it.

7643
03:14:42,360 --> 03:14:43,500
Erase that from your mind.

7644
03:14:43,580 --> 03:14:44,360
That never happened.

7645
03:14:45,980 --> 03:14:46,420
Bollocks.

7646
03:14:49,940 --> 03:14:50,800
Park bench.

7647
03:14:51,460 --> 03:14:52,400
Park bench.

7648
03:14:52,400 --> 03:14:59,820
We're going to be playing.

7649
03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:02,440
We're going to be playing.

7650
03:15:04,080 --> 03:15:05,340
More X's and O's.

7651
03:15:05,420 --> 03:15:06,140
Going to do a fucking.

7652
03:15:07,160 --> 03:15:09,560
Seven hour X's and O's stream.

7653
03:15:10,840 --> 03:15:11,940
One of the days.

7654
03:15:12,780 --> 03:15:13,000
So.

7655
03:15:14,000 --> 03:15:15,040
Stay tuned for that.

7656
03:15:15,120 --> 03:15:16,100
It's going to be fucking epic.

7657
03:15:16,560 --> 03:15:17,550
Sorry about the ears getting

7658
03:15:17,550 --> 03:15:19,000
blasted off there by the.

7659
03:15:20,280 --> 03:15:22,580
The multicultural recycler look.

7660
03:15:23,180 --> 03:15:23,920
It's like something.

7661
03:15:24,880 --> 03:15:26,060
One of those restaurants.

7662
03:15:26,200 --> 03:15:26,580
The Connor.

7663
03:15:26,900 --> 03:15:27,900
Will be going on about.

7664
03:15:30,660 --> 03:15:33,020
The multicultural recycler.

7665
03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:35,040
Recycler.

7666
03:15:35,940 --> 03:15:38,120
The multicultural recycler.

7667
03:15:39,580 --> 03:15:39,980
Recycler.

7668
03:15:40,820 --> 03:15:42,240
He's added a U between the C

7669
03:15:42,240 --> 03:15:43,960
and L on that one.

7670
03:15:44,900 --> 03:15:46,740
Gives it just an extra bit of

7671
03:15:46,740 --> 03:15:48,320
va va voom at the end.

7672
03:15:50,860 --> 03:15:53,280
The multicultural recycler.

7673
03:15:54,960 --> 03:15:55,480
Recycler.

7674
03:15:57,080 --> 03:15:57,600
Recycler.

7675
03:15:57,680 --> 03:15:58,160
It has it.

7676
03:15:58,220 --> 03:15:59,040
It feels nice.

7677
03:15:59,100 --> 03:16:00,460
Like it feels nice to say.

7678
03:16:01,500 --> 03:16:01,980
Recycler.

7679
03:16:02,640 --> 03:16:03,260
We did you have.

7680
03:16:03,380 --> 03:16:04,740
Did you go to the multicultural

7681
03:16:04,740 --> 03:16:05,400
recycler?

7682
03:16:05,720 --> 03:16:06,660
No, but I was at the

7683
03:16:06,660 --> 03:16:08,140
multicultural recycler.

7684
03:16:08,560 --> 03:16:09,780
And it was nice.

7685
03:16:13,780 --> 03:16:14,420
Recycler.

7686
03:16:20,080 --> 03:16:22,260
Last will and testament.

7687
03:16:23,960 --> 03:16:24,360
What's that?

7688
03:16:26,040 --> 03:16:27,660
Teleportatia.org.

7689
03:16:29,000 --> 03:16:30,760
Last will and testament.

7690
03:16:31,220 --> 03:16:32,020
Teleportatia.

7691
03:16:34,480 --> 03:16:35,280
Teleportatia.

7692
03:16:38,540 --> 03:16:39,860
Dot org.

7693
03:16:42,640 --> 03:16:43,320
Teleportatia.

7694
03:16:43,320 --> 03:16:44,320
Teleportatia.

7695
03:16:49,680 --> 03:16:50,360
Nope.

7696
03:17:00,700 --> 03:17:00,990
Trying to put it into the

7697
03:17:00,990 --> 03:17:03,320
fucking sidebar.

7698
03:17:05,240 --> 03:17:05,840
No.

7699
03:17:08,120 --> 03:17:09,160
It's not working.

7700
03:17:09,260 --> 03:17:09,640
It's gone.

7701
03:17:10,280 --> 03:17:11,740
We still got bud.com open as

7702
03:17:11,740 --> 03:17:12,360
well.

7703
03:17:12,360 --> 03:17:16,170
And the winner of the 1999 Webby

7704
03:17:16,170 --> 03:17:18,800
Award for Arts is...

7705
03:17:18,800 --> 03:17:19,400
Survey says...

7706
03:17:21,080 --> 03:17:22,400
Jody.org.

7707
03:17:22,480 --> 03:17:23,100
Eh eh.

7708
03:17:24,060 --> 03:17:25,820
That's the X's and O's site.

7709
03:17:26,400 --> 03:17:27,640
Come on down.

7710
03:17:28,020 --> 03:17:29,380
Pick up your award.

7711
03:17:30,080 --> 03:17:30,700
There they are.

7712
03:17:30,960 --> 03:17:32,520
No colors anymore.

7713
03:17:32,520 --> 03:17:35,040
I want them to turn left.

7714
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:35,500
Oof.

7715
03:17:35,820 --> 03:17:36,780
I thought he was going to punch

7716
03:17:36,780 --> 03:17:37,900
my fucking lights out.

7717
03:17:37,980 --> 03:17:39,300
Even before he did that.

7718
03:17:39,560 --> 03:17:40,880
See the way he was winding up.

7719
03:17:41,400 --> 03:17:42,040
There they are.

7720
03:17:42,180 --> 03:17:43,240
No colors anymore.

7721
03:17:43,240 --> 03:17:43,620
Watch this.

7722
03:17:44,420 --> 03:17:44,740
See.

7723
03:17:44,880 --> 03:17:45,820
See the fucking...

7724
03:17:45,820 --> 03:17:46,740
The cut of him.

7725
03:17:46,840 --> 03:17:47,220
Like look.

7726
03:17:47,940 --> 03:17:48,970
Imagine him coming towards you

7727
03:17:48,970 --> 03:17:50,280
in a fucking...

7728
03:17:50,280 --> 03:17:51,440
A pub or a club.

7729
03:17:51,440 --> 03:17:52,100
And then look.

7730
03:17:52,300 --> 03:17:52,500
Look.

7731
03:17:57,600 --> 03:17:58,040
Oh!

7732
03:17:58,160 --> 03:17:58,960
Like he's gonna...

7733
03:17:58,960 --> 03:17:59,520
He's gonna...

7734
03:17:59,520 --> 03:18:00,120
He's...

7735
03:18:00,120 --> 03:18:01,280
You're seeing that hand.

7736
03:18:01,400 --> 03:18:02,190
And then he's gonna fucking

7737
03:18:02,190 --> 03:18:03,040
come in with the right.

7738
03:18:03,740 --> 03:18:04,700
He's putting that there.

7739
03:18:04,780 --> 03:18:05,840
And then he's gonna fucking jab

7740
03:18:05,840 --> 03:18:06,500
you with that.

7741
03:18:06,700 --> 03:18:07,120
It's like...

7742
03:18:07,120 --> 03:18:07,240
Whoa.

7743
03:18:07,280 --> 03:18:07,820
Look at that.

7744
03:18:08,500 --> 03:18:09,510
Have I got your attention with

7745
03:18:09,510 --> 03:18:10,000
that?

7746
03:18:10,040 --> 03:18:11,020
And then follow up.

7747
03:18:11,260 --> 03:18:12,200
Right to the chops.

7748
03:18:13,980 --> 03:18:15,180
And who's that fucker?

7749
03:18:15,440 --> 03:18:16,140
In the tux.

7750
03:18:16,820 --> 03:18:18,440
It's like he's seen this before.

7751
03:18:18,560 --> 03:18:19,320
He's out of order.

7752
03:18:19,440 --> 03:18:20,360
He's had too much.

7753
03:18:20,780 --> 03:18:22,000
This fella's had too much to

7754
03:18:22,000 --> 03:18:22,620
drink.

7755
03:18:23,580 --> 03:18:25,030
And he's about to fucking Webby

7756
03:18:25,030 --> 03:18:26,060
award you.

7757
03:18:27,160 --> 03:18:28,440
And that's called the web.

7758
03:18:29,080 --> 03:18:29,800
That move.

7759
03:18:30,380 --> 03:18:31,250
They get you with the spider

7760
03:18:31,250 --> 03:18:31,640
web.

7761
03:18:31,780 --> 03:18:32,840
And then he follows up.

7762
03:18:33,140 --> 03:18:34,680
With a straight right to the

7763
03:18:34,680 --> 03:18:35,360
chops.

7764
03:18:37,660 --> 03:18:39,420
Just to think we were playing...

7765
03:18:39,420 --> 03:18:40,800
X's and O's there.

7766
03:18:40,940 --> 03:18:42,270
On a website that this man

7767
03:18:42,270 --> 03:18:42,860
built.

7768
03:18:43,960 --> 03:18:44,200
Do you know?

7769
03:18:44,280 --> 03:18:44,920
I got...

7770
03:18:44,920 --> 03:18:46,660
I got owned...

7771
03:18:46,660 --> 03:18:48,860
By his website...

7772
03:18:48,860 --> 03:18:49,920
In 2025.

7773
03:18:50,740 --> 03:18:51,920
And now it's 1999.

7774
03:18:52,980 --> 03:18:53,480
In this.

7775
03:18:54,260 --> 03:18:55,100
And he's about to punch your

7776
03:18:55,100 --> 03:18:56,260
fucking lights out.

7777
03:18:57,000 --> 03:18:57,580
There they are.

7778
03:19:01,580 --> 03:19:01,940
Smack!

7779
03:19:03,940 --> 03:19:04,340
Whoa.

7780
03:19:04,400 --> 03:19:04,860
Look at this.

7781
03:19:05,280 --> 03:19:05,820
Look at this.

7782
03:19:07,280 --> 03:19:07,840
Look at that.

7783
03:19:07,840 --> 03:19:08,280
What?

7784
03:19:09,180 --> 03:19:10,080
It was real.

7785
03:19:10,560 --> 03:19:11,240
It was real.

7786
03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:11,240
It was real.

7787
03:19:14,040 --> 03:19:15,140
What a wanker.

7788
03:19:15,380 --> 03:19:16,780
What a fucking wanker.

7789
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:21,400
What a fucking arsehole.

7790
03:19:22,700 --> 03:19:23,260
They're kicking off there on

7791
03:19:23,260 --> 03:19:24,500
the cameraman.

7792
03:19:25,160 --> 03:19:26,480
And he gets his jacket.

7793
03:19:26,620 --> 03:19:27,240
His stupid 90s...

7794
03:19:28,240 --> 03:19:29,700
Backstreet Boys jacket.

7795
03:19:30,060 --> 03:19:30,900
Gets ripped off.

7796
03:19:30,960 --> 03:19:31,100
Watch.

7797
03:19:32,020 --> 03:19:32,700
Look at this.

7798
03:19:32,800 --> 03:19:33,690
Your man's having to pull him

7799
03:19:33,690 --> 03:19:34,040
away.

7800
03:19:34,720 --> 03:19:35,680
Don't give him...

7801
03:19:35,680 --> 03:19:36,080
He's not...

7802
03:19:36,080 --> 03:19:36,970
He shouldn't even have a

7803
03:19:36,970 --> 03:19:37,660
fucking award.

7804
03:19:39,620 --> 03:19:40,520
That's not right.

7805
03:19:41,500 --> 03:19:42,060
This poor...

7806
03:19:42,060 --> 03:19:43,500
This guy's just doing his job.

7807
03:19:44,620 --> 03:19:45,900
He's old enough to know better

7808
03:19:45,900 --> 03:19:47,480
as well as...

7809
03:19:47,480 --> 03:19:48,440
A few...

7810
03:19:48,440 --> 03:19:49,810
A smattering of grey in the

7811
03:19:49,810 --> 03:19:50,300
hair.

7812
03:19:51,740 --> 03:19:52,590
Maybe he was off his fucking

7813
03:19:52,590 --> 03:19:53,420
chops.

7814
03:19:54,500 --> 03:19:56,260
You can tell he's off his chops.

7815
03:19:56,340 --> 03:19:56,520
Look.

7816
03:19:58,360 --> 03:19:58,800
Chopstick.

7817
03:19:58,800 --> 03:20:02,840
Should have known...

7818
03:20:02,840 --> 03:20:03,480
Camera should...

7819
03:20:03,480 --> 03:20:05,140
If I was on camera...

7820
03:20:05,140 --> 03:20:06,160
And that was happening...

7821
03:20:06,160 --> 03:20:06,900
He was coming towards me...

7822
03:20:06,900 --> 03:20:08,180
I would have known...

7823
03:20:08,180 --> 03:20:09,140
Maybe just back away from this

7824
03:20:09,140 --> 03:20:09,600
con...

7825
03:20:09,600 --> 03:20:09,860
He's...

7826
03:20:09,860 --> 03:20:11,080
He's fucking dodgy.

7827
03:20:13,160 --> 03:20:14,320
And is that his wife?

7828
03:20:20,580 --> 03:20:21,320
Look at this.

7829
03:20:22,080 --> 03:20:22,580
I...

7830
03:20:22,580 --> 03:20:23,340
Didn't I tell you?

7831
03:20:23,400 --> 03:20:25,200
I thought that was a joke first...

7832
03:20:25,200 --> 03:20:26,100
Before we'd seen one...

7833
03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:26,840
And it happened afterwards.

7834
03:20:26,840 --> 03:20:29,200
And I could sense...

7835
03:20:29,200 --> 03:20:31,420
When I saw Tuxedo Tom...

7836
03:20:31,420 --> 03:20:32,120
Over here...

7837
03:20:32,120 --> 03:20:34,320
With that look...

7838
03:20:34,320 --> 03:20:36,000
He knew that this was...

7839
03:20:36,000 --> 03:20:36,860
Gonna kick off.

7840
03:20:40,980 --> 03:20:41,380
Boom.

7841
03:20:44,340 --> 03:20:45,120
Look at that.

7842
03:20:45,420 --> 03:20:45,960
The camera...

7843
03:20:45,960 --> 03:20:46,940
In fairness to the camera...

7844
03:20:46,940 --> 03:20:48,160
He does well to try and...

7845
03:20:48,160 --> 03:20:48,820
Hop away from him...

7846
03:20:48,820 --> 03:20:49,980
Because that's a heavy bit of

7847
03:20:49,980 --> 03:20:50,260
kit.

7848
03:20:53,840 --> 03:20:55,700
And his wife...

7849
03:20:55,700 --> 03:20:56,700
Takes the jacket off him...

7850
03:20:56,700 --> 03:20:59,020
I see the girl...

7851
03:20:59,020 --> 03:21:00,040
Tries to pull him...

7852
03:21:00,040 --> 03:21:01,420
Away from the camera man...

7853
03:21:01,420 --> 03:21:01,660
And it...

7854
03:21:01,660 --> 03:21:01,860
Boom.

7855
03:21:12,260 --> 03:21:14,660
Mark Maron...

7856
03:21:14,660 --> 03:21:15,640
Look just clapping...

7857
03:21:15,640 --> 03:21:16,500
He can't do anything...

7858
03:21:16,500 --> 03:21:17,220
He's stuck.

7859
03:21:18,780 --> 03:21:20,120
Mark Maron's laughing...

7860
03:21:20,120 --> 03:21:26,200
Wow.

7861
03:21:26,760 --> 03:21:28,020
What a fucking idiot.

7862
03:21:31,420 --> 03:21:31,940
That...

7863
03:21:31,940 --> 03:21:32,700
He should have fucking...

7864
03:21:32,700 --> 03:21:33,340
Chinned him then.

7865
03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:34,500
But I mean...

7866
03:21:34,500 --> 03:21:35,380
He's a professional...

7867
03:21:35,380 --> 03:21:36,280
He's just gonna keep his...

7868
03:21:36,280 --> 03:21:37,660
It's the beginning of the night...

7869
03:21:37,660 --> 03:21:38,860
Like he's still got a load more...

7870
03:21:38,860 --> 03:21:39,760
Wankers to get through.

7871
03:21:42,700 --> 03:21:44,240
He can't believe it.

7872
03:21:44,360 --> 03:21:46,020
Sorry for labouring this one...

7873
03:21:46,020 --> 03:21:46,640
But the...

7874
03:21:46,640 --> 03:21:48,140
The cameraman goes like this...

7875
03:21:49,280 --> 03:21:49,800
As if...

7876
03:21:49,800 --> 03:21:51,160
Did you see that?

7877
03:21:56,220 --> 03:21:57,380
Look at this fella...

7878
03:21:57,380 --> 03:21:58,780
Look at the cameraman here...

7879
03:21:58,780 --> 03:21:59,820
Look back...

7880
03:21:59,820 --> 03:22:00,920
Look...

7881
03:22:00,920 --> 03:22:01,810
He does a quick look around to

7882
03:22:01,810 --> 03:22:02,520
his mates...

7883
03:22:02,520 --> 03:22:03,480
To say what's going on?

7884
03:22:06,700 --> 03:22:07,920
She keeps dancing...

7885
03:22:07,920 --> 03:22:08,300
He's...

7886
03:22:08,300 --> 03:22:08,600
Look...

7887
03:22:08,600 --> 03:22:10,340
Mark Maron's obviously gone...

7888
03:22:10,340 --> 03:22:11,580
This guy's bad news...

7889
03:22:11,580 --> 03:22:13,340
I'm gonna back off...

7890
03:22:13,340 --> 03:22:14,670
She still gives him the fucking

7891
03:22:14,670 --> 03:22:15,500
stupid...

7892
03:22:15,500 --> 03:22:16,340
Spring trophy though...

7893
03:22:17,900 --> 03:22:18,470
Has she not just seen what's

7894
03:22:18,470 --> 03:22:20,040
happened there?

7895
03:22:25,040 --> 03:22:26,560
Ugly commercial...

7896
03:22:26,560 --> 03:22:27,340
Son of...

7897
03:22:27,340 --> 03:22:28,340
Yes...

7898
03:22:28,340 --> 03:22:30,340
That's the spirit...

7899
03:22:30,340 --> 03:22:32,560
God bless the...

7900
03:22:32,560 --> 03:22:33,060
Still...

7901
03:22:33,060 --> 03:22:34,340
He turned up to the award...

7902
03:22:34,340 --> 03:22:36,340
And took the award...

7903
03:22:36,340 --> 03:22:37,740
You know...

7904
03:22:37,740 --> 03:22:38,880
And paid...

7905
03:22:38,880 --> 03:22:40,820
Paid to be in the awards...

7906
03:22:40,820 --> 03:22:41,980
And then did that...

7907
03:22:41,980 --> 03:22:43,980
The Rebels...

7908
03:22:43,980 --> 03:22:45,380
The next category is...

7909
03:22:45,380 --> 03:22:46,740
We need to find out more about

7910
03:22:46,740 --> 03:22:47,700
that guy...

7911
03:22:47,700 --> 03:22:48,660
And what that website...

7912
03:22:48,660 --> 03:22:49,560
I can't believe I've just

7913
03:22:49,560 --> 03:22:50,620
played his stupid...

7914
03:22:50,620 --> 03:22:51,940
X's and O's games...

7915
03:22:51,940 --> 03:22:53,240
And I'm even more sickened than

7916
03:22:53,240 --> 03:22:54,140
I got beat...

7917
03:22:54,140 --> 03:22:54,780
At Commerce...

7918
03:22:54,780 --> 03:22:56,200
And before...

7919
03:22:56,200 --> 03:22:56,920
Well I'd like to say a few

7920
03:22:56,920 --> 03:22:57,540
things...

7921
03:22:57,540 --> 03:22:58,400
Before we get into the Commerce

7922
03:22:58,400 --> 03:22:59,020
category...

7923
03:22:59,020 --> 03:22:59,710
I'd like to sort of send a

7924
03:22:59,710 --> 03:23:00,380
shout out...

7925
03:23:00,380 --> 03:23:01,420
To the people at eBay...

7926
03:23:01,420 --> 03:23:02,220
Because...

7927
03:23:02,220 --> 03:23:03,450
There is no reason to throw

7928
03:23:03,450 --> 03:23:04,660
anything away...

7929
03:23:04,660 --> 03:23:05,300
Ever...

7930
03:23:05,300 --> 03:23:05,980
Anymore...

7931
03:23:05,980 --> 03:23:08,730
You just put a picture of it up

7932
03:23:08,730 --> 03:23:10,520
on eBay...

7933
03:23:10,520 --> 03:23:11,340
And within days...

7934
03:23:11,340 --> 03:23:12,460
You can just box it up...

7935
03:23:12,460 --> 03:23:13,080
Send it off...

7936
03:23:13,080 --> 03:23:14,140
And deposit that check...

7937
03:23:14,140 --> 03:23:15,680
I'm glad that Marin is doing

7938
03:23:15,680 --> 03:23:17,380
the entire awards...

7939
03:23:17,380 --> 03:23:18,800
Because the other hosts...

7940
03:23:18,800 --> 03:23:19,760
The last time were...

7941
03:23:19,760 --> 03:23:21,040
Charmless...

7942
03:23:21,040 --> 03:23:21,600
You know...

7943
03:23:21,600 --> 03:23:22,220
Or charisma...

7944
03:23:22,220 --> 03:23:23,800
They didn't have any jokes...

7945
03:23:23,800 --> 03:23:24,780
And if he did...

7946
03:23:24,780 --> 03:23:25,660
They didn't land...

7947
03:23:25,660 --> 03:23:26,980
I was actually able to unload...

7948
03:23:26,980 --> 03:23:27,760
Two vintage...

7949
03:23:27,760 --> 03:23:28,260
Unworn...

7950
03:23:28,260 --> 03:23:29,340
Unwith stupid t-shirts...

7951
03:23:29,340 --> 03:23:30,970
To a collector in Kalamazoo,

7952
03:23:30,970 --> 03:23:32,140
Michigan...

7953
03:23:32,140 --> 03:23:34,340
In exchange for $25...

7954
03:23:34,340 --> 03:23:35,020
In a pet rock...

7955
03:23:35,020 --> 03:23:35,920
That was still in its original

7956
03:23:35,920 --> 03:23:36,600
packaging...

7957
03:23:36,600 --> 03:23:37,380
And that's...

7958
03:23:37,380 --> 03:23:38,060
America...

7959
03:23:38,060 --> 03:23:40,460
Solid...

7960
03:23:40,460 --> 03:23:41,330
And now the nominees for

7961
03:23:41,330 --> 03:23:42,260
Commerce are...

7962
03:23:42,260 --> 03:23:43,020
Solid stuff...

7963
03:23:43,020 --> 03:23:55,560
Amazon.com...

7964
03:23:55,560 --> 03:23:57,560
We all know about them...

7965
03:23:57,560 --> 03:23:58,060
Don't we?

7966
03:23:58,060 --> 03:24:03,560
CD now...

7967
03:24:03,560 --> 03:24:12,600
eBay...

7968
03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:20,300
Gap Online...

7969
03:24:20,300 --> 03:24:26,080
And of course...

7970
03:24:26,080 --> 03:24:27,200
The Tire Rack...

7971
03:24:27,200 --> 03:24:33,200
Big support...

7972
03:24:33,200 --> 03:24:35,640
Support for Tire Rack there...

7973
03:24:35,640 --> 03:24:35,980
Uh...

7974
03:24:35,980 --> 03:24:36,440
Giebe...

7975
03:24:36,440 --> 03:24:37,460
Thank you very much...

7976
03:24:37,460 --> 03:24:38,620
And...

7977
03:24:38,620 --> 03:24:39,600
The winner of the...

7978
03:24:39,600 --> 03:24:40,940
1999 Webby Award...

7979
03:24:40,940 --> 03:24:43,280
For Commerce...

7980
03:24:43,280 --> 03:24:44,920
Amazon.com...

7981
03:24:44,920 --> 03:24:46,560
I think the thing...

7982
03:24:46,560 --> 03:24:47,580
That's different about Amazon...

7983
03:24:47,580 --> 03:24:48,800
Is the way the technology...

7984
03:24:48,800 --> 03:24:49,820
Is kind of invisible...

7985
03:24:49,820 --> 03:24:50,620
At the website...

7986
03:24:50,620 --> 03:24:50,860
You know...

7987
03:24:50,860 --> 03:24:52,240
It's just so easy...

7988
03:24:52,240 --> 03:24:53,440
To discover the products...

7989
03:24:53,440 --> 03:24:54,540
That you want to buy...

7990
03:24:54,540 --> 03:24:55,760
And to actually go through...

7991
03:24:55,760 --> 03:24:56,540
And buy them...

7992
03:24:56,540 --> 03:24:57,200
It's just the whole...

7993
03:24:57,200 --> 03:24:58,220
Customer experience...

7994
03:24:58,220 --> 03:24:58,740
Is just...

7995
03:24:58,740 --> 03:25:00,140
Second to none...

7996
03:25:00,140 --> 03:25:02,840
I just want to hear that again...

7997
03:25:02,840 --> 03:25:04,100
Georgie Pie said...

7998
03:25:04,100 --> 03:25:05,280
You missed Jane...

7999
03:25:05,280 --> 03:25:07,360
Walking on the red carpet...

8000
03:25:07,360 --> 03:25:08,220
In the beginning...

8001
03:25:08,220 --> 03:25:09,180
The blazing locks...

8002
03:25:09,180 --> 03:25:10,280
Are unmistakable...

8003
03:25:10,860 --> 03:25:12,160
Did I really miss Jane...

8004
03:25:12,160 --> 03:25:13,240
Nobody else...

8005
03:25:13,240 --> 03:25:14,120
Did anybody else...

8006
03:25:14,120 --> 03:25:14,780
Spot that...

8007
03:25:14,780 --> 03:25:15,400
On the intro...

8008
03:25:15,400 --> 03:25:16,340
When we saw Putin...

8009
03:25:16,340 --> 03:25:16,940
Earlier on...

8010
03:25:16,940 --> 03:25:18,280
Was Jane there...

8011
03:25:18,280 --> 03:25:20,300
It's just so easy...

8012
03:25:20,300 --> 03:25:21,560
To discover the products...

8013
03:25:21,560 --> 03:25:22,620
That you want to buy...

8014
03:25:22,620 --> 03:25:23,900
And then to actually go through...

8015
03:25:23,900 --> 03:25:24,720
And buy them...

8016
03:25:24,720 --> 03:25:25,420
It's just the whole...

8017
03:25:25,420 --> 03:25:26,360
Customer experience...

8018
03:25:26,360 --> 03:25:27,100
Is just...

8019
03:25:27,100 --> 03:25:29,680
This is $7.55...

8020
03:25:29,680 --> 03:25:32,160
For our return leg...

8021
03:25:32,160 --> 03:25:32,460
Uh...

8022
03:25:32,460 --> 03:25:33,700
Jane is somewhere...

8023
03:25:33,700 --> 03:25:34,900
Unmistakable...

8024
03:25:34,900 --> 03:25:35,600
Red locks...

8025
03:25:35,600 --> 03:25:36,260
Was that her there?

8026
03:25:36,340 --> 03:25:36,720
Look...

8027
03:25:36,720 --> 03:25:37,800
That's not her...

8028
03:25:37,800 --> 03:25:40,100
That's not her...

8029
03:25:40,100 --> 03:25:41,340
That wasn't...

8030
03:25:41,340 --> 03:25:43,700
That's not her in the bowl...

8031
03:25:43,700 --> 03:25:44,920
Are you fucking mad?

8032
03:25:44,920 --> 03:25:45,720
Let's go right now...

8033
03:25:45,720 --> 03:25:46,760
For the 1999...

8034
03:25:46,760 --> 03:25:52,020
That's not her...

8035
03:25:52,020 --> 03:25:53,140
Different face...

8036
03:25:53,140 --> 03:25:53,760
And everything...

8037
03:25:56,340 --> 03:25:57,300
Unless there was...

8038
03:25:57,300 --> 03:25:58,300
Another Jane there...

8039
03:25:58,300 --> 03:25:58,420
No?

8040
03:26:00,420 --> 03:26:01,560
I can't remember...

8041
03:26:01,560 --> 03:26:01,860
The Webby's is...

8042
03:26:01,860 --> 03:26:03,280
San Francisco's version...

8043
03:26:03,280 --> 03:26:04,380
Of the Oscars...

8044
03:26:04,380 --> 03:26:05,620
The Academy Awards...

8045
03:26:05,620 --> 03:26:06,920
For the Digerati...

8046
03:26:06,920 --> 03:26:07,700
And the event...

8047
03:26:07,700 --> 03:26:08,840
Comes complete with...

8048
03:26:08,840 --> 03:26:09,820
No she wasn't there...

8049
03:26:09,820 --> 03:26:10,980
The Digerati...

8050
03:26:10,980 --> 03:26:11,800
Thank you...

8051
03:26:11,800 --> 03:26:12,620
Omar...

8052
03:26:12,620 --> 03:26:13,560
Thank you very much...

8053
03:26:13,560 --> 03:26:15,360
The attacker's name...

8054
03:26:15,360 --> 03:26:16,620
And we've got some...

8055
03:26:16,620 --> 03:26:17,660
Insider scoop here...

8056
03:26:17,660 --> 03:26:19,720
The attacker's name...

8057
03:26:19,720 --> 03:26:20,880
Is Dirk...

8058
03:26:20,880 --> 03:26:22,880
Pacemans...

8059
03:26:22,880 --> 03:26:24,880
Dirk Pacemans...

8060
03:26:24,880 --> 03:26:26,220
Dirk Pacemans...

8061
03:26:26,220 --> 03:26:26,880
I think Dirk...

8062
03:26:27,600 --> 03:26:28,880
Might be a...

8063
03:26:28,880 --> 03:26:29,180
Uh...

8064
03:26:29,180 --> 03:26:30,460
If I can look at that again...

8065
03:26:30,460 --> 03:26:30,880
Just one more...

8066
03:26:32,460 --> 03:26:32,880
Fucking Russia...

8067
03:26:34,880 --> 03:26:35,880
Donbass...

8068
03:26:37,880 --> 03:26:38,880
NATO...

8069
03:26:38,880 --> 03:26:40,260
And...

8070
03:26:40,260 --> 03:26:40,820
Uh...

8071
03:26:40,820 --> 03:26:42,140
I can't see any Jane...

8072
03:26:42,140 --> 03:26:44,140
Dirk Pacemans...

8073
03:26:44,140 --> 03:26:45,480
One half of...

8074
03:26:45,480 --> 03:26:46,020
Joe D...

8075
03:26:46,020 --> 03:26:47,060
He is the D...

8076
03:26:47,060 --> 03:26:47,800
And the Joe was...

8077
03:26:47,800 --> 03:26:48,560
Joan...

8078
03:26:48,560 --> 03:26:49,140
Heemskirk...

8079
03:26:49,140 --> 03:26:51,140
Which was probably his wife...

8080
03:26:51,140 --> 03:26:53,140
Up on stage there...

8081
03:26:53,140 --> 03:26:54,140
No colours...

8082
03:26:54,140 --> 03:26:55,140
Anymore...

8083
03:26:55,140 --> 03:26:55,140
I...

8084
03:26:55,140 --> 03:26:56,140
Look at him there...

8085
03:26:56,140 --> 03:26:57,760
Looks a little bit like...

8086
03:26:57,760 --> 03:26:58,140
David Byrne...

8087
03:26:58,140 --> 03:27:00,140
When he first gets up...

8088
03:27:00,140 --> 03:27:01,360
I thought it was...

8089
03:27:01,360 --> 03:27:01,680
Uh...

8090
03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:02,140
A...

8091
03:27:02,140 --> 03:27:03,140
Talking head situation...

8092
03:27:03,140 --> 03:27:05,140
And he starts talking...

8093
03:27:05,140 --> 03:27:06,140
With the hands...

8094
03:27:06,140 --> 03:27:07,140
Look at the schnarl on him...

8095
03:27:07,140 --> 03:27:11,880
What the fuck were they at?

8096
03:27:13,540 --> 03:27:14,780
Oh my god...

8097
03:27:14,780 --> 03:27:15,280
Boom...

8098
03:27:22,160 --> 03:27:23,440
Father Demo...

8099
03:27:23,440 --> 03:27:25,280
Oasis or Blur...

8100
03:27:28,000 --> 03:27:29,280
Pacemans...

8101
03:27:29,280 --> 03:27:30,460
And it's spelled...

8102
03:27:30,460 --> 03:27:34,280
P-A-E-S-M-I-N-S...

8103
03:27:34,280 --> 03:27:35,600
Uh...

8104
03:27:35,600 --> 03:27:37,120
So it's a different pace...

8105
03:27:37,120 --> 03:27:43,260
Son of a bitch...

8106
03:27:43,260 --> 03:27:45,260
Son of a flow...

8107
03:27:45,260 --> 03:27:47,260
I have to turn my head...

8108
03:27:47,260 --> 03:27:51,260
Until my darkness goes...

8109
03:27:51,260 --> 03:27:52,600
Ugly commercial...

8110
03:27:52,600 --> 03:27:53,260
Son of...

8111
03:27:53,260 --> 03:27:54,260
Yes...

8112
03:27:54,920 --> 03:27:56,260
That's the spirit...

8113
03:27:56,260 --> 03:27:59,260
God bless the rebels...

8114
03:27:59,260 --> 03:28:00,400
Sorry there...

8115
03:28:00,400 --> 03:28:00,900
We've seen it...

8116
03:28:00,900 --> 03:28:01,400
We've seen it...

8117
03:28:01,400 --> 03:28:02,940
We'll just get back to your man...

8118
03:28:02,940 --> 03:28:04,400
There's 7.55...

8119
03:28:04,400 --> 03:28:05,400
Let's just hear him again...

8120
03:28:05,400 --> 03:28:07,400
To discover the products...

8121
03:28:07,400 --> 03:28:08,400
That you want to buy...

8122
03:28:08,400 --> 03:28:09,400
And to actually go through...

8123
03:28:09,400 --> 03:28:10,700
And buy them...

8124
03:28:10,700 --> 03:28:11,600
It's just the whole customer

8125
03:28:11,600 --> 03:28:12,400
experience...

8126
03:28:12,400 --> 03:28:13,400
It's just second to none...

8127
03:28:13,400 --> 03:28:14,400
I don't think they were Dutch...

8128
03:28:14,400 --> 03:28:15,400
I'd say they were...

8129
03:28:15,400 --> 03:28:16,400
But that name...

8130
03:28:16,400 --> 03:28:17,400
That name sounds...

8131
03:28:17,400 --> 03:28:18,300
Maybe more Dutch...

8132
03:28:18,300 --> 03:28:18,780
Than it does...

8133
03:28:18,780 --> 03:28:20,540
Lapin or Russian or...

8134
03:28:20,540 --> 03:28:24,540
It's a gas...

8135
03:28:24,540 --> 03:28:25,400
Box...

8136
03:28:25,400 --> 03:28:26,000
Music...

8137
03:28:26,000 --> 03:28:26,540
Video...

8138
03:28:26,540 --> 03:28:26,540
And...

8139
03:28:26,540 --> 03:28:27,540
Whippies...

8140
03:28:27,540 --> 03:28:39,080
The next category is...

8141
03:28:39,080 --> 03:28:39,580
Community...

8142
03:28:39,580 --> 03:28:40,680
And as I was researching...

8143
03:28:40,680 --> 03:28:41,380
The nominees for the...

8144
03:28:41,380 --> 03:28:42,180
Community category...

8145
03:28:42,180 --> 03:28:43,400
Something went wrong...

8146
03:28:43,400 --> 03:28:44,140
With my computer...

8147
03:28:44,140 --> 03:28:45,040
Thank you very much...

8148
03:28:45,040 --> 03:28:47,100
There Nick...

8149
03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:47,800
It looks like...

8150
03:28:47,800 --> 03:28:50,100
He knows we're on the block...

8151
03:28:50,100 --> 03:28:51,400
How about you...

8152
03:28:51,400 --> 03:28:52,440
Computer and I got lost...

8153
03:28:52,440 --> 03:28:53,100
At W...

8154
03:28:53,100 --> 03:28:55,640
What did your man say there...

8155
03:28:55,640 --> 03:28:56,240
Box...

8156
03:28:56,240 --> 03:28:56,800
Music...

8157
03:28:56,800 --> 03:28:57,300
Video...

8158
03:28:57,300 --> 03:28:57,500
Of...

8159
03:28:57,500 --> 03:28:58,540
Webby's...

8160
03:28:58,540 --> 03:29:00,940
Box...

8161
03:29:00,940 --> 03:29:01,380
Music...

8162
03:29:01,380 --> 03:29:01,880
Video...

8163
03:29:01,880 --> 03:29:02,700
Webby's...

8164
03:29:02,700 --> 03:29:03,240
Box...

8165
03:29:03,240 --> 03:29:03,840
Music...

8166
03:29:03,840 --> 03:29:04,340
Video...

8167
03:29:04,340 --> 03:29:04,540
Of...

8168
03:29:04,540 --> 03:29:05,600
Webby's...

8169
03:29:05,600 --> 03:29:06,740
Both hands...

8170
03:29:06,740 --> 03:29:08,740
That make a stash...

8171
03:29:08,740 --> 03:29:09,040
A...

8172
03:29:09,040 --> 03:29:10,240
Crucial grape...

8173
03:29:10,240 --> 03:29:11,380
The next category is...

8174
03:29:11,380 --> 03:29:11,920
Community...

8175
03:29:11,920 --> 03:29:12,980
And as I was researching...

8176
03:29:12,980 --> 03:29:13,660
The nominees for the...

8177
03:29:13,660 --> 03:29:14,920
Community category...

8178
03:29:14,920 --> 03:29:15,660
Something went wrong...

8179
03:29:15,660 --> 03:29:16,480
With my computer...

8180
03:29:16,480 --> 03:29:17,180
And I got lost...

8181
03:29:17,180 --> 03:29:17,320
At...

8182
03:29:17,320 --> 03:29:20,600
www.badneighborhood.com...

8183
03:29:20,600 --> 03:29:23,020
For like two hours...

8184
03:29:23,020 --> 03:29:23,800
Made some of the wrong...

8185
03:29:23,800 --> 03:29:24,560
Kind of friends...

8186
03:29:24,560 --> 03:29:26,660
Bought some porn...

8187
03:29:26,660 --> 03:29:27,760
Got hooked up with some drugs...

8188
03:29:27,760 --> 03:29:28,890
And joined a gang called the

8189
03:29:28,890 --> 03:29:29,660
losers...

8190
03:29:29,660 --> 03:29:31,660
All the while...

8191
03:29:31,660 --> 03:29:32,700
I'm sitting at home...

8192
03:29:32,700 --> 03:29:33,260
Naked...

8193
03:29:33,260 --> 03:29:34,840
And I'm still an active member...

8194
03:29:34,840 --> 03:29:36,140
Of the community...

8195
03:29:36,140 --> 03:29:38,100
A mover...

8196
03:29:38,100 --> 03:29:39,040
And a shaker...

8197
03:29:39,040 --> 03:29:40,380
In the online world...

8198
03:29:40,380 --> 03:29:40,840
Are we...

8199
03:29:40,840 --> 03:29:42,240
Are we onto portals here?

8200
03:29:42,240 --> 03:29:45,240
And now...

8201
03:29:45,240 --> 03:29:46,340
The nominees...

8202
03:29:46,340 --> 03:29:47,240
For community are...

8203
03:29:50,840 --> 03:29:51,240
Community...

8204
03:29:52,240 --> 03:29:53,600
Web communities...

8205
03:29:53,600 --> 03:29:55,240
Building communities...

8206
03:29:55,760 --> 03:29:57,240
Of like-minded individuals...

8207
03:29:57,800 --> 03:29:59,240
Who like the same sort of stuff...

8208
03:29:59,760 --> 03:30:00,240
Hang out...

8209
03:30:01,760 --> 03:30:02,240
In those communities...

8210
03:30:03,240 --> 03:30:05,460
The early days of communities...

8211
03:30:05,460 --> 03:30:06,560
Miningvillage.com...

8212
03:30:06,560 --> 03:30:08,460
Ivevillage.com...

8213
03:30:12,460 --> 03:30:14,300
Chat topics...

8214
03:30:14,300 --> 03:30:15,460
Miningcompany.com...

8215
03:30:15,460 --> 03:30:16,460
Miningcompany.com...

8216
03:30:20,460 --> 03:30:23,460
Seniornet...

8217
03:30:23,460 --> 03:30:24,460
No way...

8218
03:30:24,460 --> 03:30:25,620
I don't think...

8219
03:30:25,620 --> 03:30:26,640
Not to be confused with...

8220
03:30:26,640 --> 03:30:27,460
Seniornet...

8221
03:30:28,460 --> 03:30:29,460
Pfft...

8222
03:30:29,460 --> 03:30:30,460
Talk shit...

8223
03:30:30,460 --> 03:30:31,460
Talk shit...

8224
03:30:31,460 --> 03:30:33,460
It's all coming full circle...

8225
03:30:33,460 --> 03:30:34,460
Because we were already seeing...

8226
03:30:34,460 --> 03:30:35,460
Seniornet...

8227
03:30:35,460 --> 03:30:36,460
Early on...

8228
03:30:36,460 --> 03:30:37,460
And third age...

8229
03:30:37,460 --> 03:30:38,460
Third age...

8230
03:30:38,460 --> 03:30:41,460
The web...

8231
03:30:41,460 --> 03:30:43,460
For grown-ups...

8232
03:30:43,460 --> 03:30:44,460
The web...

8233
03:30:44,460 --> 03:30:45,460
For grown-ups...

8234
03:30:45,460 --> 03:30:47,460
The web...

8235
03:30:47,460 --> 03:30:48,460
For grown-ups...

8236
03:30:48,460 --> 03:30:49,460
Third age...

8237
03:30:49,460 --> 03:30:50,460
Third age...

8238
03:30:50,460 --> 03:31:04,460
*Pewds music*

8239
03:31:04,460 --> 03:31:07,440
And the winner of the 1999 Webby

8240
03:31:07,440 --> 03:31:09,460
Award for Community goes to...

8241
03:31:09,460 --> 03:31:12,150
Third Age Senior Net! I can't

8242
03:31:12,150 --> 03:31:15,130
believe... can't believe they

8243
03:31:15,130 --> 03:31:16,460
won it.

8244
03:31:16,460 --> 03:31:18,310
We were stunned. I mean we are

8245
03:31:18,310 --> 03:31:20,080
a little non-profit and we did

8246
03:31:20,080 --> 03:31:21,730
have big competitions so we

8247
03:31:21,730 --> 03:31:23,520
were surprised that we won but

8248
03:31:23,520 --> 03:31:24,460
thrilled.

8249
03:31:24,460 --> 03:31:27,170
And our community will just be...

8250
03:31:27,170 --> 03:31:28,940
oh my god I can just imagine

8251
03:31:28,940 --> 03:31:31,460
the celebration online tomorrow.

8252
03:31:31,460 --> 03:31:36,460
*Pewds music*

8253
03:31:36,460 --> 03:31:42,460
Wow! Yes! Senior Net and Webby!

8254
03:31:42,460 --> 03:31:45,240
Wow! Yes! Senior Net and Webby!

8255
03:31:45,240 --> 03:31:46,460
That's five!

8256
03:31:46,460 --> 03:31:48,460
*Pewds music*

8257
03:31:48,460 --> 03:31:50,300
We'll move right along with the

8258
03:31:50,300 --> 03:31:51,610
next category which is

8259
03:31:51,610 --> 03:31:52,460
Education.

8260
03:31:52,460 --> 03:31:55,340
And now the nominees for

8261
03:31:55,340 --> 03:31:58,460
Education are...

8262
03:31:58,460 --> 03:32:02,460
Running Slow.

8263
03:32:02,460 --> 03:32:07,460
*Pewds music*

8264
03:32:07,460 --> 03:32:09,460
Journey North!

8265
03:32:09,460 --> 03:32:14,460
*Pewds music*

8266
03:32:14,460 --> 03:32:21,460
Kathy Schrock's Guide for Educators.

8267
03:32:21,460 --> 03:32:31,320
The Global Schoolhouse. And the

8268
03:32:31,320 --> 03:32:41,760
Math Forum. Web66. Web66. Like

8269
03:32:41,760 --> 03:32:43,860
Rouge66, but for the web.

8270
03:32:43,860 --> 03:32:49,190
And the winner of the 1999 Webby

8271
03:32:49,190 --> 03:32:52,650
Award in Education goes to

8272
03:32:52,650 --> 03:33:00,400
Journey North. What's that band?

8273
03:33:00,400 --> 03:33:05,720
Does anyone know?

8274
03:33:05,720 --> 03:33:14,970
I'm hot for teacher. Van Halen.

8275
03:33:14,970 --> 03:33:20,770
Hot for teacher. I'm hot for

8276
03:33:20,770 --> 03:33:21,720
teacher.

8277
03:33:21,720 --> 03:33:26,720
Van Halen. I'm hot for teacher.

8278
03:33:26,720 --> 03:33:33,100
Come on down. Van Halen. Van

8279
03:33:33,100 --> 03:33:38,030
Halen. I'm hot for teacher. I'm

8280
03:33:38,030 --> 03:33:39,720
hot for teacher.

8281
03:33:39,720 --> 03:33:41,260
Journey North is a science

8282
03:33:41,260 --> 03:33:43,150
education program that uses the

8283
03:33:43,150 --> 03:33:44,760
internet to collect data so

8284
03:33:44,760 --> 03:33:46,300
students follow Spring's

8285
03:33:46,300 --> 03:33:47,950
Journey North. And they're

8286
03:33:47,950 --> 03:33:49,390
actually following wildlife

8287
03:33:49,390 --> 03:33:50,980
migration of monarch butter.

8288
03:33:51,060 --> 03:33:53,090
The data is in the holes. It's

8289
03:33:53,090 --> 03:33:54,720
a computer concept.

8290
03:33:54,720 --> 03:33:56,060
Moves all the way up to the

8291
03:33:56,060 --> 03:33:57,940
Arctic. We have students that,

8292
03:33:57,940 --> 03:34:00,400
over 200,000 students across

8293
03:34:00,400 --> 03:34:01,880
the US and Canada and Mexico

8294
03:34:01,880 --> 03:34:03,720
who are following migration.

8295
03:34:03,720 --> 03:34:05,740
Don't want to get done. You

8296
03:34:05,740 --> 03:34:07,780
know I'm on this, I'm out of

8297
03:34:07,780 --> 03:34:10,720
the probationary fucking minefield.

8298
03:34:10,720 --> 03:34:12,800
But I just want to see if there

8299
03:34:12,800 --> 03:34:14,710
was a video for that hot for

8300
03:34:14,710 --> 03:34:17,720
teacher. Van Halen.

8301
03:34:23,720 --> 03:34:24,200
Wow.

8302
03:34:24,200 --> 03:34:27,010
Sorry there. Could be a bit

8303
03:34:27,010 --> 03:34:28,700
sexual. Could be a bit too

8304
03:34:28,700 --> 03:34:30,530
early in the day but I mean it's

8305
03:34:30,530 --> 03:34:32,200
obviously on YouTube.

8306
03:34:32,200 --> 03:34:35,120
Now Waldo, I hope you find some

8307
03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:37,200
friends this year.

8308
03:34:37,200 --> 03:34:39,200
Aw, Mom.

8309
03:34:39,200 --> 03:34:40,200
Bit straight.

8310
03:34:40,200 --> 03:34:43,630
No, I'm not like other guys. I'm

8311
03:34:43,630 --> 03:34:46,990
nervous and my socks are too

8312
03:34:46,990 --> 03:34:48,200
loose.

8313
03:34:48,200 --> 03:34:50,760
It's scary isn't it? Do you

8314
03:34:50,760 --> 03:34:52,270
know? It's scary stuff when you

8315
03:34:52,270 --> 03:34:54,200
look back at it. It's so weird.

8316
03:35:01,200 --> 03:35:03,200
Sit down, Waldo.

8317
03:35:03,200 --> 03:35:06,200
What a bizarre idea.

8318
03:35:06,200 --> 03:35:07,950
Yeah, I don't know if I want to

8319
03:35:07,950 --> 03:35:09,200
watch any of this.

8320
03:35:09,200 --> 03:35:16,890
Yeah, I don't know if I want to

8321
03:35:16,890 --> 03:35:22,200
watch any of this.

8322
03:35:22,200 --> 03:35:25,130
Yeah, fucking great tune though

8323
03:35:25,130 --> 03:35:26,200
isn't it?

8324
03:35:26,200 --> 03:35:28,200
Wow.

8325
03:35:28,200 --> 03:35:30,880
Oh, Daft Punk. They fucking

8326
03:35:30,880 --> 03:35:32,200
stole that, did they?

8327
03:35:32,200 --> 03:35:34,120
I wonder if Daft Punk got a Van

8328
03:35:34,120 --> 03:35:35,800
Halen tune and put that into

8329
03:35:35,800 --> 03:35:38,200
Discovery or one of those songs.

8330
03:35:38,200 --> 03:35:51,200
It is!

8331
03:35:51,200 --> 03:35:53,030
Tell you Daft Punk, if you go

8332
03:35:53,030 --> 03:35:55,200
back and look at all the stuff.

8333
03:35:55,200 --> 03:35:56,810
I used to think Daft Punk did

8334
03:35:56,810 --> 03:35:58,350
all their fucking tunes on

8335
03:35:58,350 --> 03:35:59,200
Discovery.

8336
03:35:59,200 --> 03:36:01,400
It's a lot of other people's

8337
03:36:01,400 --> 03:36:03,200
stuff. Do you know?

8338
03:36:13,200 --> 03:36:15,200
What's that tune that uses that?

8339
03:36:15,200 --> 03:36:31,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8340
03:36:31,200 --> 03:36:33,200
Great tune though. Great album.

8341
03:36:33,200 --> 03:36:35,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8342
03:36:35,200 --> 03:36:36,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8343
03:36:36,200 --> 03:36:37,200
Aerodynamic.

8344
03:36:37,200 --> 03:36:38,790
And it had all the, the whole

8345
03:36:38,790 --> 03:36:40,450
album was a fucking cartoon as

8346
03:36:40,450 --> 03:36:42,030
well if you think you can play

8347
03:36:42,030 --> 03:36:43,200
the whole thing.

8348
03:36:43,200 --> 03:36:44,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8349
03:36:44,200 --> 03:36:46,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8350
03:36:46,200 --> 03:36:47,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8351
03:36:47,200 --> 03:36:49,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8352
03:36:49,200 --> 03:36:52,200
*Sings the tune of the song*

8353
03:36:52,200 --> 03:36:54,840
I don't want to get the channel

8354
03:36:54,840 --> 03:36:55,200
done.

8355
03:36:55,200 --> 03:36:57,700
It's interesting stuff, isn't

8356
03:36:57,700 --> 03:36:58,200
it?

8357
03:36:58,200 --> 03:36:59,780
The channel will get done for

8358
03:36:59,780 --> 03:37:01,690
copyright, not for content, you

8359
03:37:01,690 --> 03:37:02,200
know?

8360
03:37:02,200 --> 03:37:03,240
for content, you know?

8361
03:37:03,960 --> 03:37:05,000
The same thing.

8362
03:37:19,680 --> 03:37:21,040
Monarch Butterflies,

8363
03:37:21,280 --> 03:37:21,980
Bald Eagles,

8364
03:37:22,620 --> 03:37:23,080
Nature,

8365
03:37:23,500 --> 03:37:23,820
Children,

8366
03:37:24,180 --> 03:37:24,580
Internet.

8367
03:37:28,440 --> 03:37:29,500
Have Gareth Bane!

8368
03:37:29,560 --> 03:37:30,560
The best thing about that

8369
03:37:30,560 --> 03:37:31,700
was the Van Halen tune.

8370
03:37:31,800 --> 03:37:33,720
Actually, every award,

8371
03:37:34,140 --> 03:37:35,700
the tunes have been better

8372
03:37:35,700 --> 03:37:37,020
than the actual recipients.

8373
03:37:39,620 --> 03:37:40,720
Coming up next.

8374
03:37:41,100 --> 03:37:42,320
And then back into the safety

8375
03:37:42,320 --> 03:37:43,740
and comfort of the Netcafé

8376
03:37:43,740 --> 03:37:44,220
tunes.

8377
03:37:44,300 --> 03:37:45,470
Webby Award for the best

8378
03:37:45,470 --> 03:37:46,580
fashion website.

8379
03:37:50,820 --> 03:37:52,740
The next category is fashion.

8380
03:37:52,880 --> 03:37:53,540
I'm certainly not what you

8381
03:37:53,540 --> 03:37:54,060
would call

8382
03:37:54,060 --> 03:37:54,980
a fashion plate.

8383
03:37:55,260 --> 03:37:56,460
I'm actually wondering,

8384
03:37:56,580 --> 03:37:57,860
at what age do I stop digging

8385
03:37:57,860 --> 03:37:59,060
through dead people's clothing

8386
03:37:59,060 --> 03:38:00,220
at stinky thrift stores?

8387
03:38:01,400 --> 03:38:02,600
When do I not walk up to my

8388
03:38:02,600 --> 03:38:03,080
friends

8389
03:38:03,080 --> 03:38:03,320
going,

8390
03:38:03,320 --> 03:38:04,300
check out this shirt,

8391
03:38:04,560 --> 03:38:05,380
three bucks?

8392
03:38:07,380 --> 03:38:08,620
Look, it says Bob over the

8393
03:38:08,620 --> 03:38:09,180
pocket.

8394
03:38:10,360 --> 03:38:11,360
Think it belonged to somebody

8395
03:38:11,360 --> 03:38:12,240
who worked for a living.

8396
03:38:16,580 --> 03:38:17,580
All right, all right.

8397
03:38:17,580 --> 03:38:17,760
All right.

8398
03:38:17,760 --> 03:38:17,760
All right.

8399
03:38:17,760 --> 03:38:17,780
All right.

8400
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780
All right.

8401
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780
All right.

8402
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780
All right.

8403
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780
All right.

8404
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780
All right.

8405
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780
All right.

8406
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,880
All right.

8407
03:38:17,880 --> 03:38:17,920
All right.

8408
03:38:17,920 --> 03:38:19,550
And now the nominees for

8409
03:38:19,550 --> 03:38:20,780
fashion are...

8410
03:38:20,780 --> 03:38:28,180
Vogue.com.

8411
03:38:28,180 --> 03:38:30,300
Gap.com.

8412
03:38:30,300 --> 03:38:31,160
Hint Magazine.

8413
03:38:31,160 --> 03:38:32,480
Hint Magazine.

8414
03:38:32,480 --> 03:38:40,020
London Fashion Week.

8415
03:38:46,020 --> 03:38:46,860
Lumiere.

8416
03:38:46,860 --> 03:38:47,680
Lumiere.

8417
03:38:55,440 --> 03:38:56,360
Paper Mag.

8418
03:39:04,040 --> 03:39:06,780
W and L T Online.

8419
03:39:09,780 --> 03:39:11,120
Walsh.

8420
03:39:11,120 --> 03:39:12,750
And the winner for the 1999

8421
03:39:12,750 --> 03:39:13,160
fashion

8422
03:39:13,160 --> 03:39:15,320
Webby is...

8423
03:39:15,320 --> 03:39:16,220
Walsh.

8424
03:39:16,220 --> 03:39:17,620
Paper Mag.

8425
03:39:17,620 --> 03:39:20,410
Paper Mag is a pop cultural

8426
03:39:20,410 --> 03:39:22,300
site published out of New York

8427
03:39:22,300 --> 03:39:22,880
City.

8428
03:39:22,880 --> 03:39:24,600
And part of it is a guide to

8429
03:39:24,600 --> 03:39:26,340
what's hot every day.

8430
03:39:26,340 --> 03:39:28,960
It's the content changes daily.

8431
03:39:28,960 --> 03:39:30,530
And part of it is really about

8432
03:39:30,530 --> 03:39:31,740
style and fashion.

8433
03:39:31,740 --> 03:39:33,620
And part of it is just about

8434
03:39:33,620 --> 03:39:35,780
news and culture and music and

8435
03:39:35,780 --> 03:39:36,900
film, etc.

8436
03:39:46,020 --> 03:39:46,520
Thank.

8437
03:39:46,520 --> 03:39:47,020
You.

8438
03:39:47,020 --> 03:39:47,520
We.

8439
03:39:47,520 --> 03:39:48,020
Deserve.

8440
03:39:48,020 --> 03:39:48,520
It.

8441
03:39:48,520 --> 03:39:49,520
Yeah.

8442
03:39:49,520 --> 03:39:50,020
Yeah.

8443
03:39:54,100 --> 03:39:55,620
The next category is film.

8444
03:39:55,620 --> 03:39:58,440
And now the nominees for film.

8445
03:40:00,360 --> 03:40:01,980
IMDB.com.

8446
03:40:01,980 --> 03:40:03,980
Movies.com.

8447
03:40:05,980 --> 03:40:06,980
Coming Attractions.

8448
03:40:14,280 --> 03:40:15,480
Dark Horizons.

8449
03:40:22,740 --> 03:40:23,740
Film.com.

8450
03:40:23,740 --> 03:40:25,140
I should have said film.

8451
03:40:25,140 --> 03:40:25,920
Did I say film?

8452
03:40:25,920 --> 03:40:27,180
I said movies.com.

8453
03:40:27,180 --> 03:40:28,180
Film.com.

8454
03:40:28,180 --> 03:40:28,980
Film.com.

8455
03:40:28,980 --> 03:40:33,600
Internet Movie Database.

8456
03:40:33,600 --> 03:40:34,990
And they're definitely going to

8457
03:40:34,990 --> 03:40:35,500
take it.

8458
03:40:39,900 --> 03:40:39,460
Ireland Film and Television

8459
03:40:39,460 --> 03:40:40,600
Next.

8460
03:40:40,600 --> 03:40:41,180
There we go.

8461
03:40:41,180 --> 03:40:41,680
There we go.

8462
03:40:41,680 --> 03:40:42,240
IFT.

8463
03:40:42,240 --> 03:40:43,340
How did they get it?

8464
03:40:43,340 --> 03:40:44,520
How did they get in there?

8465
03:40:45,520 --> 03:40:46,400
IFTN.

8466
03:40:48,460 --> 03:40:49,640
Be great if they won it.

8467
03:40:51,220 --> 03:40:53,860
And the winner of the 1999 Webby

8468
03:40:53,860 --> 03:40:55,720
for the category of film goes

8469
03:40:55,720 --> 03:40:57,900
to Internet Movie Database.

8470
03:41:01,840 --> 03:41:02,720
Come on down.

8471
03:41:04,880 --> 03:41:05,130
I'd say they had a nice little

8472
03:41:05,130 --> 03:41:07,640
junket anyway trip over to the

8473
03:41:07,640 --> 03:41:08,640
States.

8474
03:41:09,520 --> 03:41:10,150
We cover everything from

8475
03:41:10,150 --> 03:41:11,040
executive.

8476
03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:13,180
It's the same guy.

8477
03:41:13,340 --> 03:41:13,940
No way.

8478
03:41:14,380 --> 03:41:15,180
Does Amazon.

8479
03:41:15,800 --> 03:41:17,200
Did they own IMDB?

8480
03:41:17,900 --> 03:41:19,130
Or if they used the same

8481
03:41:19,130 --> 03:41:20,740
fucking clip from Amazon.

8482
03:41:22,520 --> 03:41:23,410
Maybe they've accidentally used

8483
03:41:23,410 --> 03:41:24,780
the same clip.

8484
03:41:26,280 --> 03:41:27,310
They've got the same tear of

8485
03:41:27,310 --> 03:41:28,640
tissue guy.

8486
03:41:29,780 --> 03:41:29,940
I could.

8487
03:41:30,600 --> 03:41:31,440
I could crush a.

8488
03:41:31,440 --> 03:41:32,680
I could crush a grape.

8489
03:41:36,520 --> 03:41:38,140
Cover everything from executive

8490
03:41:38,140 --> 03:41:39,450
producer all the way down to

8491
03:41:39,450 --> 03:41:40,900
third assistant caterer.

8492
03:41:41,620 --> 03:41:44,410
We cover quotes, goofs, trivia,

8493
03:41:44,410 --> 03:41:45,640
reviews.

8494
03:41:46,480 --> 03:41:47,540
Just anything you can imagine

8495
03:41:47,540 --> 03:41:49,180
to store about a movie.

8496
03:41:49,540 --> 03:41:50,120
We've got it.

8497
03:41:59,400 --> 03:42:00,320
Oh God.

8498
03:42:00,840 --> 03:42:03,480
Again, the music being the best

8499
03:42:03,480 --> 03:42:05,520
thing about this.

8500
03:42:05,940 --> 03:42:06,790
I'm the king of the world, I

8501
03:42:06,790 --> 03:42:08,100
think he's about to say.

8502
03:42:12,560 --> 03:42:13,460
I'm the king of the world, Wide

8503
03:42:13,460 --> 03:42:14,740
Web.

8504
03:42:18,660 --> 03:42:19,900
Over five words.

8505
03:42:20,240 --> 03:42:21,140
So that was a fail.

8506
03:42:21,960 --> 03:42:23,840
The next category is finance.

8507
03:42:23,840 --> 03:42:24,840
And I.

8508
03:42:25,060 --> 03:42:25,760
And it's all.

8509
03:42:25,940 --> 03:42:27,460
The other guy had to be told to

8510
03:42:27,460 --> 03:42:28,980
leave by Cyberwoman.

8511
03:42:29,020 --> 03:42:30,660
in the background there.

8512
03:42:31,260 --> 03:42:32,120
Or she's saying something to

8513
03:42:32,120 --> 03:42:32,480
him.

8514
03:42:33,460 --> 03:42:34,220
What's being said?

8515
03:42:34,280 --> 03:42:34,660
What's happening?

8516
03:42:35,140 --> 03:42:36,960
She's being told move along.

8517
03:42:38,000 --> 03:42:39,320
He's being told to move along.

8518
03:42:40,360 --> 03:42:42,300
The next category is finance.

8519
03:42:42,620 --> 03:42:43,300
And I.

8520
03:42:43,540 --> 03:42:44,430
Between all the financial

8521
03:42:44,430 --> 03:42:45,720
information sites and online

8522
03:42:45,720 --> 03:42:46,460
brokerages.

8523
03:42:47,300 --> 03:42:47,870
The internet has made the

8524
03:42:47,870 --> 03:42:49,630
global stock market into a home

8525
03:42:49,630 --> 03:42:50,300
casino.

8526
03:42:54,620 --> 03:42:55,620
I missed that joke.

8527
03:42:55,620 --> 03:42:56,380
I missed that joke.

8528
03:42:56,380 --> 03:42:56,680
Sorry.

8529
03:42:56,680 --> 03:42:57,300
One second.

8530
03:42:58,080 --> 03:42:59,230
And someone said that he looks

8531
03:42:59,230 --> 03:43:00,660
like Alan Shatter.

8532
03:43:00,840 --> 03:43:02,830
The fellow that's been corralled

8533
03:43:02,830 --> 03:43:04,120
off stage there.

8534
03:43:04,180 --> 03:43:05,880
He does in that frame.

8535
03:43:07,140 --> 03:43:08,020
Alan Shatter.

8536
03:43:09,860 --> 03:43:11,620
I've managed to get in on the

8537
03:43:11,620 --> 03:43:13,020
IMDB award there.

8538
03:43:14,320 --> 03:43:16,380
The next category is finance.

8539
03:43:16,820 --> 03:43:17,360
And I.

8540
03:43:17,600 --> 03:43:18,490
Between all the financial

8541
03:43:18,490 --> 03:43:19,780
information sites and online

8542
03:43:19,780 --> 03:43:20,520
brokerages.

8543
03:43:21,260 --> 03:43:21,930
The internet has made the

8544
03:43:21,930 --> 03:43:23,690
global stock market into a home

8545
03:43:23,690 --> 03:43:24,360
casino.

8546
03:43:30,360 --> 03:43:31,800
A lot of new and exciting ways

8547
03:43:31,800 --> 03:43:33,300
for normal average people to

8548
03:43:33,300 --> 03:43:33,980
lose money.

8549
03:43:36,020 --> 03:43:36,900
Right now.

8550
03:43:37,100 --> 03:43:37,620
And now.

8551
03:43:38,080 --> 03:43:40,720
The nominees for finance are.

8552
03:43:43,100 --> 03:43:44,660
What's the bets for finance in

8553
03:43:44,660 --> 03:43:47,100
1999?

8554
03:43:47,100 --> 03:43:52,120
Are we any guesses there?

8555
03:43:52,300 --> 03:43:52,920
AIB?

8556
03:43:53,020 --> 03:43:54,160
I don't think so.

8557
03:43:55,600 --> 03:43:56,760
Chase Bank?

8558
03:43:57,480 --> 03:43:58,400
It's American stuff.

8559
03:43:58,540 --> 03:43:58,920
PayPal?

8560
03:43:59,420 --> 03:43:59,760
Maybe.

8561
03:44:03,940 --> 03:44:05,180
Yahoo Finance.

8562
03:44:05,340 --> 03:44:05,800
Bloomberg.

8563
03:44:06,160 --> 03:44:06,580
PayPal.

8564
03:44:07,580 --> 03:44:08,920
You ain't seen nothing yet.

8565
03:44:08,920 --> 03:44:08,980
Yes.

8566
03:44:08,980 --> 03:44:18,820
Clear station.

8567
03:44:19,400 --> 03:44:20,300
Nobody had that.

8568
03:44:20,780 --> 03:44:21,580
Nobody had that.

8569
03:44:26,480 --> 03:44:27,120
Elon.

8570
03:44:27,840 --> 03:44:28,780
Elon Musk.

8571
03:44:31,080 --> 03:44:32,110
Before he did PayPal, he did

8572
03:44:32,110 --> 03:44:33,080
that.

8573
03:44:36,860 --> 03:44:37,920
Investor Home.

8574
03:44:38,220 --> 03:44:39,660
Nobody's guessed any of these

8575
03:44:39,660 --> 03:44:40,060
yet.

8576
03:44:44,620 --> 03:44:46,080
The Motley Fool.

8577
03:44:48,840 --> 03:44:50,040
Fool.com.

8578
03:44:53,040 --> 03:44:54,230
The Wall Street Journal Interactive

8579
03:44:54,230 --> 03:44:55,620
Edition.

8580
03:44:55,960 --> 03:44:57,240
That should have been a guess.

8581
03:44:57,620 --> 03:44:58,520
Nobody guessed that.

8582
03:44:58,640 --> 03:44:59,380
Should have been a guess.

8583
03:45:00,640 --> 03:45:02,470
And the winner of the 1999 Webby

8584
03:45:02,470 --> 03:45:04,720
Award for finance goes to.

8585
03:45:05,900 --> 03:45:07,020
The Motley Fool.

8586
03:45:07,300 --> 03:45:09,020
If I were a rich man.

8587
03:45:13,420 --> 03:45:14,940
All day long.

8588
03:45:16,560 --> 03:45:18,780
If I were a wealthy man.

8589
03:45:19,000 --> 03:45:21,140
Open a Northe IRA today.

8590
03:45:22,460 --> 03:45:24,260
My first day as a fool.

8591
03:45:24,260 --> 03:45:25,520
I have to work hard.

8592
03:45:28,020 --> 03:45:29,740
I think I'm scaring him.

8593
03:45:30,200 --> 03:45:33,340
If I were a bitty bitty rich.

8594
03:45:33,340 --> 03:45:37,580
I did a diddle diddle man.

8595
03:45:38,440 --> 03:45:40,020
I feel.

8596
03:45:40,540 --> 03:45:41,160
Oh God.

8597
03:46:01,160 --> 03:46:02,440
Harley Quinn.

8598
03:46:02,440 --> 03:46:05,780
It's about power.

8599
03:46:06,360 --> 03:46:07,400
To the people.

8600
03:46:08,980 --> 03:46:09,660
Discipline me.

8601
03:46:10,980 --> 03:46:11,960
Had to take it in a weird

8602
03:46:11,960 --> 03:46:13,460
direction.

8603
03:46:14,260 --> 03:46:15,560
He couldn't just leave it there.

8604
03:46:18,260 --> 03:46:20,080
And how weird man.

8605
03:46:20,140 --> 03:46:21,230
I don't even have to put the

8606
03:46:21,230 --> 03:46:22,180
fucking music on.

8607
03:46:22,580 --> 03:46:24,370
Because they've got that

8608
03:46:24,370 --> 03:46:26,700
strange sound coming through.

8609
03:46:26,840 --> 03:46:28,080
And he's walking off to it as

8610
03:46:28,080 --> 03:46:28,520
well.

8611
03:46:28,740 --> 03:46:29,800
Look at the swagger on him.

8612
03:46:31,080 --> 03:46:31,920
How bizarre.

8613
03:46:32,260 --> 03:46:32,820
Discipline me.

8614
03:46:32,900 --> 03:46:33,200
He said.

8615
03:46:33,320 --> 03:46:33,660
Pardon me.

8616
03:46:39,100 --> 03:46:40,840
Maybe we can just slow it down.

8617
03:46:41,020 --> 03:46:43,200
Just for old time's sake.

8618
03:46:44,560 --> 03:46:45,840
And maybe even just a bit of

8619
03:46:45,840 --> 03:46:46,700
this.

8620
03:46:53,800 --> 03:47:20,240
The next category is games.

8621
03:47:20,240 --> 03:47:22,000
And as I said in my opening.

8622
03:47:22,000 --> 03:47:23,940
It seems like people talk about

8623
03:47:23,940 --> 03:47:25,430
computers with the same

8624
03:47:25,430 --> 03:47:26,300
language.

8625
03:47:26,300 --> 03:47:27,500
They talk about vehicles that

8626
03:47:27,500 --> 03:47:28,260
actually move.

8627
03:47:29,920 --> 03:47:30,560
Computer games.

8628
03:47:30,560 --> 03:47:31,860
It's really fast man.

8629
03:47:31,920 --> 03:47:33,030
But I haven't heard anyone say

8630
03:47:33,030 --> 03:47:33,280
yet.

8631
03:47:33,300 --> 03:47:34,140
Be careful man.

8632
03:47:34,180 --> 03:47:35,120
A friend of mine got killed

8633
03:47:35,120 --> 03:47:36,140
running that program.

8634
03:47:39,580 --> 03:47:39,960
He'll come back out the other

8635
03:47:39,960 --> 03:47:41,100
side.

8636
03:47:41,160 --> 03:47:42,420
I'll get my zip drive working.

8637
03:47:42,860 --> 03:47:46,140
And now the category for games.

8638
03:47:46,140 --> 03:47:47,080
Let's see them.

8639
03:47:47,080 --> 03:47:48,140
The nominees are...

8640
03:47:48,140 --> 03:47:57,400
Digital addiction.

8641
03:47:59,920 --> 03:48:01,480
That's what we all have now.

8642
03:48:01,480 --> 03:48:01,480
That's what we all have now.

8643
03:48:03,480 --> 03:48:04,960
Gamers Central.

8644
03:48:11,200 --> 03:48:12,600
No one cheers for that.

8645
03:48:12,600 --> 03:48:14,560
Java on the brain.

8646
03:48:20,740 --> 03:48:22,900
Multibar arcade machine emulator.

8647
03:48:23,320 --> 03:48:24,960
Decent emulator isn't it?

8648
03:48:29,120 --> 03:48:30,200
Shock rave.

8649
03:48:31,020 --> 03:48:32,480
Downloading the shock rave.

8650
03:48:33,120 --> 03:48:34,720
For all the ladies in the cave.

8651
03:48:35,280 --> 03:48:36,560
So get your groove on.

8652
03:48:37,500 --> 03:48:39,360
And it's chef from South Park.

8653
03:48:39,660 --> 03:48:40,720
Flash cards.

8654
03:48:41,620 --> 03:48:42,120
Bowling.

8655
03:48:43,400 --> 03:48:45,400
And something about flashbang.

8656
03:48:47,400 --> 03:48:48,360
Gamer zone.

8657
03:48:50,780 --> 03:48:51,420
And the winner of the 1999 Webby

8658
03:48:51,420 --> 03:48:53,960
Award for games goes to...

8659
03:48:57,120 --> 03:48:58,280
Gamer Central.

8660
03:48:58,740 --> 03:48:59,960
Give it up for them people.

8661
03:49:02,040 --> 03:49:03,100
Mech warrior 3.

8662
03:49:03,980 --> 03:49:05,180
Turok 2.

8663
03:49:06,200 --> 03:49:06,760
Summoner.

8664
03:49:07,960 --> 03:49:09,460
Summoner looks rubbish.

8665
03:49:09,940 --> 03:49:11,160
It's like a big block.

8666
03:49:11,340 --> 03:49:13,540
You're a giant block man.

8667
03:49:14,560 --> 03:49:16,680
Summoner is probably Volition's.

8668
03:49:16,680 --> 03:49:19,140
Most ambitious project so far.

8669
03:49:19,860 --> 03:49:21,380
Although the final release.

8670
03:49:21,680 --> 03:49:22,960
Is at least a year away.

8671
03:49:23,480 --> 03:49:25,160
And a lot may still change.

8672
03:49:25,880 --> 03:49:27,330
Everything about this upcoming

8673
03:49:27,330 --> 03:49:27,840
RPG.

8674
03:49:28,060 --> 03:49:28,720
Looks impressive.

8675
03:49:29,800 --> 03:49:31,320
This first look will get you.

8676
03:49:31,400 --> 03:49:32,740
Up to speed on this very

8677
03:49:32,740 --> 03:49:33,600
exciting.

8678
03:49:34,220 --> 03:49:34,660
Title.

8679
03:49:35,140 --> 03:49:35,660
Summoner.

8680
03:49:35,660 --> 03:49:40,500
I think Turok was about

8681
03:49:40,500 --> 03:49:43,620
dinosaurs.

8682
03:49:43,840 --> 03:49:44,720
I think he controlled the

8683
03:49:44,720 --> 03:49:45,380
dinosaurs.

8684
03:49:50,000 --> 03:49:53,820
On behalf of Gamer Central.

8685
03:49:54,160 --> 03:49:54,540
Thanks.

8686
03:49:54,720 --> 03:49:55,660
It's a team effort.

8687
03:49:56,000 --> 03:49:57,660
I must have played them all.

8688
03:49:57,880 --> 03:49:58,680
Too many words.

8689
03:49:58,680 --> 03:50:00,040
I ain't seen nothing like...

8690
03:50:00,040 --> 03:50:00,880
Gamer Central.

8691
03:50:00,880 --> 03:50:03,220
In any amusement park.

8692
03:50:03,760 --> 03:50:04,800
Coming up next.

8693
03:50:04,920 --> 03:50:06,340
The Webby Award for the best

8694
03:50:06,340 --> 03:50:07,480
health website.

8695
03:50:07,580 --> 03:50:08,850
It's so sad when you hear Stu

8696
03:50:08,850 --> 03:50:10,120
on the interstitials.

8697
03:50:10,220 --> 03:50:11,120
And he's just not there.

8698
03:50:14,720 --> 03:50:16,220
The next category is health.

8699
03:50:16,360 --> 03:50:17,420
And I try to stay healthy

8700
03:50:17,420 --> 03:50:18,020
myself.

8701
03:50:18,120 --> 03:50:19,020
I'm trying to quit smoking.

8702
03:50:19,220 --> 03:50:20,240
Which is being made easier.

8703
03:50:20,320 --> 03:50:21,450
Being that you can't smoke

8704
03:50:21,450 --> 03:50:22,480
anywhere anymore.

8705
03:50:23,220 --> 03:50:24,580
They used to be smoking.

8706
03:50:25,100 --> 03:50:27,260
They don't clap, you cowards.

8707
03:50:29,340 --> 03:50:29,770
I feel bad for people who've

8708
03:50:29,770 --> 03:50:32,160
never been addicted to anything.

8709
03:50:32,280 --> 03:50:33,080
They're the real losers.

8710
03:50:37,960 --> 03:50:36,450
Because they just don't know

8711
03:50:36,450 --> 03:50:39,880
what it's like to really want

8712
03:50:39,880 --> 03:50:41,600
something.

8713
03:50:43,180 --> 03:50:44,320
And get it.

8714
03:50:44,620 --> 03:50:47,080
Again and again and again.

8715
03:50:47,480 --> 03:50:49,010
Until they're sick and have to

8716
03:50:49,010 --> 03:50:49,580
stop.

8717
03:50:51,640 --> 03:50:52,640
That's passion.

8718
03:50:52,640 --> 03:50:55,440
No, but I was at the airport.

8719
03:50:55,540 --> 03:50:56,190
The answer is smoking section

8720
03:50:56,190 --> 03:50:56,680
at the airport.

8721
03:50:56,680 --> 03:50:56,800
Come on, man.

8722
03:50:56,900 --> 03:50:58,420
It's time to cut to the fucking

8723
03:50:58,420 --> 03:50:59,080
nominees.

8724
03:50:59,300 --> 03:50:59,480
Right?

8725
03:50:59,560 --> 03:50:59,920
No more.

8726
03:51:00,240 --> 03:51:01,530
They now have these glass-encased

8727
03:51:01,530 --> 03:51:02,040
rooms.

8728
03:51:03,000 --> 03:51:04,020
You're not just a smoker.

8729
03:51:04,260 --> 03:51:05,240
You're an example to other

8730
03:51:05,240 --> 03:51:05,780
people.

8731
03:51:07,200 --> 03:51:07,560
You're an exhibit at a

8732
03:51:07,560 --> 03:51:09,180
futuristic zoo.

8733
03:51:09,320 --> 03:51:11,480
You're in the nicotine terrarium.

8734
03:51:12,540 --> 03:51:13,020
There ought to be a sign out

8735
03:51:13,020 --> 03:51:13,960
front that says,

8736
03:51:14,020 --> 03:51:15,030
The Attic and its natural

8737
03:51:15,030 --> 03:51:15,720
environment.

8738
03:51:17,120 --> 03:51:17,740
Parents are walking by with

8739
03:51:17,740 --> 03:51:19,140
children, pointing.

8740
03:51:19,360 --> 03:51:20,280
Look in there, honey.

8741
03:51:21,180 --> 03:51:22,280
Isn't that sad?

8742
03:51:22,280 --> 03:51:23,580
Those are smokers.

8743
03:51:24,380 --> 03:51:25,680
And I'm in there going...

8744
03:51:25,680 --> 03:51:30,640
Stop running, honey.

8745
03:51:30,720 --> 03:51:31,500
You're teasing them.

8746
03:51:31,620 --> 03:51:32,480
Stop running.

8747
03:51:40,480 --> 03:51:41,480
I'll take it.

8748
03:51:41,480 --> 03:51:42,380
A lot of smokers in the

8749
03:51:42,380 --> 03:51:43,720
audience, I think, maybe.

8750
03:51:43,720 --> 03:51:45,880
And now the health nominees are...

8751
03:51:46,580 --> 03:51:47,260
Bam!

8752
03:51:55,260 --> 03:51:55,780
IntelliHealth.

8753
03:51:59,880 --> 03:52:00,740
Intelligent Health.

8754
03:52:02,060 --> 03:52:03,100
Wait, I was reading that.

8755
03:52:03,360 --> 03:52:03,940
Mayo Clinic.

8756
03:52:03,940 --> 03:52:05,500
Well done to whoever said Mayo

8757
03:52:05,500 --> 03:52:06,120
Clinic.

8758
03:52:06,280 --> 03:52:07,800
Somebody mentioned Mayo Clinic.

8759
03:52:08,600 --> 03:52:09,680
Nothing to do with Mayo.

8760
03:52:12,220 --> 03:52:13,540
Mediconsult.com.

8761
03:52:20,040 --> 03:52:20,880
On health.

8762
03:52:21,400 --> 03:52:23,440
When fungus gets a toehold.

8763
03:52:24,440 --> 03:52:24,720
No?

8764
03:52:25,080 --> 03:52:25,240
Yeah?

8765
03:52:29,240 --> 03:52:35,420
online.com and the 1999 webby

8766
03:52:35,420 --> 03:52:40,010
for the category of health goes

8767
03:52:40,010 --> 03:52:42,200
to telehealth

8768
03:52:42,200 --> 03:52:44,640
yeah congratulations people who

8769
03:52:44,640 --> 03:52:46,640
have problems or if they're

8770
03:52:46,640 --> 03:52:47,900
healthy and they

8771
03:52:47,900 --> 03:52:49,290
want to learn about problems

8772
03:52:49,290 --> 03:52:50,680
that other people might have

8773
03:52:50,680 --> 03:52:51,740
come to the site look

8774
03:52:51,740 --> 03:52:53,370
up information and can find in

8775
03:52:53,370 --> 03:52:54,960
problems that other people I

8776
03:52:54,960 --> 03:52:56,120
wonder what problem

8777
03:52:56,120 --> 03:52:57,730
might have come to the site I

8778
03:52:57,730 --> 03:52:59,270
can't see because when I zoom

8779
03:52:59,270 --> 03:53:00,380
in there there's a

8780
03:53:00,380 --> 03:53:02,470
title strand over picture man

8781
03:53:02,470 --> 03:53:04,490
had a condition with his face

8782
03:53:04,490 --> 03:53:08,960
there it made a bulbous jowl or

8783
03:53:08,960 --> 03:53:09,980
if they're

8784
03:53:09,980 --> 03:53:11,230
healthy and they want to learn

8785
03:53:11,230 --> 03:53:12,330
about problems that other

8786
03:53:12,330 --> 03:53:13,590
people might have come to the

8787
03:53:13,590 --> 03:53:14,660
site look up

8788
03:53:14,660 --> 03:53:16,830
information and can find in our

8789
03:53:16,830 --> 03:53:18,250
two million pages of

8790
03:53:18,250 --> 03:53:20,380
information trusted but and

8791
03:53:20,380 --> 03:53:21,860
developed with Johns

8792
03:53:21,860 --> 03:53:23,880
Hopkins all the information

8793
03:53:23,880 --> 03:53:26,120
they want to find Johns Hopkins

8794
03:53:26,120 --> 03:53:29,050
when you kiss me fever when you

8795
03:53:29,050 --> 03:53:30,380
hold me tight

8796
03:53:30,380 --> 03:53:34,160
fever in the morning

8797
03:53:34,160 --> 03:53:36,950
in telehealth like an EKG with

8798
03:53:36,950 --> 03:53:37,880
attitude

8799
03:53:37,880 --> 03:53:42,140
here's your health

8800
03:53:42,140 --> 03:53:50,140
we're nearly at the end that

8801
03:53:50,140 --> 03:53:53,530
the beatings will be will soon

8802
03:53:53,530 --> 03:53:56,260
cease is a humor and we have no

8803
03:53:56,260 --> 03:53:56,720
joke for

8804
03:53:56,720 --> 03:54:00,970
that. And now the nominees for

8805
03:54:00,970 --> 03:54:13,340
humor are... Berserk. Red Meat.

8806
03:54:13,340 --> 03:54:21,920
I don't want to visit any of

8807
03:54:21,920 --> 03:54:23,480
these now. I'd say the domains

8808
03:54:23,480 --> 03:54:24,980
have been changed and bought up

8809
03:54:24,980 --> 03:54:26,080
by other people.

8810
03:54:26,720 --> 03:54:30,540
Definitely not. Definitely not

8811
03:54:30,540 --> 03:54:34,530
going to risk that one. See if

8812
03:54:34,530 --> 03:54:38,970
that one's still going. They'll

8813
03:54:38,970 --> 03:54:43,570
win it. They won the one before.

8814
03:54:43,570 --> 03:54:48,930
I like that one. The 1999 Webby

8815
03:54:48,930 --> 03:54:55,440
Award for humor goes to... Suck.com.

8816
03:54:55,440 --> 03:54:57,440
Yeah! The Onion! We're

8817
03:54:57,440 --> 03:54:59,220
basically a satire of news

8818
03:54:59,220 --> 03:55:01,500
publications and journalism.

8819
03:55:01,500 --> 03:55:03,380
And our format parodies USA

8820
03:55:03,380 --> 03:55:05,700
Today style journalism. Yeah,

8821
03:55:05,700 --> 03:55:07,230
we've seen you. We've seen you

8822
03:55:07,230 --> 03:55:08,080
the last day.

8823
03:55:08,080 --> 03:55:12,730
Thank you very, very much. Oh,

8824
03:55:12,730 --> 03:55:18,040
yeah. Congratulations. Probably

8825
03:55:18,040 --> 03:55:20,720
the best speech.

8826
03:55:20,720 --> 03:55:23,870
And the next category is living.

8827
03:55:23,870 --> 03:55:27,010
No joke. Because it's important

8828
03:55:27,010 --> 03:55:30,060
stuff. And now the nominees for

8829
03:55:30,060 --> 03:55:33,360
the living category are...

8830
03:55:33,360 --> 03:55:44,540
baby center get on down to baby

8831
03:55:44,540 --> 03:55:45,520
center

8832
03:55:45,520 --> 03:55:50,160
epicurious

8833
03:55:50,160 --> 03:55:56,110
these are boring ones man

8834
03:55:56,110 --> 03:55:57,320
fucking epicurious

8835
03:55:57,320 --> 03:55:59,670
garden.com same shit from the

8836
03:55:59,670 --> 03:56:01,580
last year's one they're not

8837
03:56:01,580 --> 03:56:03,250
the yuckiest site on the

8838
03:56:03,250 --> 03:56:06,590
internet and the 1999 webby

8839
03:56:06,590 --> 03:56:08,940
award for living goes to

8840
03:56:08,940 --> 03:56:10,960
bring it all probably baby

8841
03:56:10,960 --> 03:56:12,460
center baby center

8842
03:56:12,460 --> 03:56:16,340
yeah

8843
03:56:16,340 --> 03:56:20,140
when we want to kiss we kiss

8844
03:56:20,140 --> 03:56:23,260
with a little petting

8845
03:56:23,260 --> 03:56:25,300
kasava children of kasava

8846
03:56:25,300 --> 03:56:32,660
when we want to work we work

8847
03:56:32,660 --> 03:56:36,660
when we want to play we play

8848
03:56:36,660 --> 03:56:38,260
look at this guy

8849
03:56:38,260 --> 03:56:42,980
thanks mom and dad

8850
03:56:42,980 --> 03:56:45,380
fuck off

8851
03:56:45,380 --> 03:56:46,580
for you next week.

8852
03:56:47,000 --> 03:56:48,020
I'm Stuart Shaffey

8853
03:56:48,020 --> 03:56:48,800
at the Herbst Theatre

8854
03:56:48,800 --> 03:56:49,720
in San Francisco.

8855
03:56:50,040 --> 03:56:50,820
And there we have it.

8856
03:56:50,920 --> 03:56:51,980
Join us again next time

8857
03:56:51,980 --> 03:56:52,100
at the Net Cafe.

8858
03:56:52,100 --> 03:56:53,260
That was the Webby Awards.

8859
03:56:53,540 --> 03:56:55,500
What a fantastic show that was.

8860
03:56:55,500 --> 03:56:56,260
The Net Cafe is made possible

8861
03:56:56,260 --> 03:56:56,780
in part by...

8862
03:56:56,780 --> 03:56:57,460
Beautiful stuff.

8863
03:56:58,280 --> 03:56:59,840
Standout moment, of course.

8864
03:57:00,460 --> 03:57:02,360
A young Vladimir...

8865
03:57:02,360 --> 03:57:03,980
Vladimir...

8866
03:57:04,820 --> 03:57:06,740
Putin, or I was going to say...

8867
03:57:06,740 --> 03:57:08,080
Oh, actually, this book here.

8868
03:57:08,700 --> 03:57:09,580
Fucking nutter.

8869
03:57:11,500 --> 03:57:12,560
Absolute dickhead.

8870
03:57:14,700 --> 03:57:15,260
Boom.

8871
03:57:16,260 --> 03:57:16,820
Scuffle.

8872
03:57:18,300 --> 03:57:20,160
What an arsehole.

8873
03:57:21,980 --> 03:57:24,040
And his wife is no better

8874
03:57:24,040 --> 03:57:25,460
for letting him carry on like

8875
03:57:25,460 --> 03:57:26,260
that as well.

8876
03:57:26,800 --> 03:57:28,270
Wearing the Tipperary shirt

8877
03:57:28,270 --> 03:57:28,920
here.

8878
03:57:29,240 --> 03:57:30,580
She just fucking lets him...

8879
03:57:30,580 --> 03:57:32,110
She lets him get away with

8880
03:57:32,110 --> 03:57:32,800
murder.

8881
03:57:36,680 --> 03:57:39,540
Ugly commercial, son of...

8882
03:57:39,540 --> 03:57:41,320
Yes, that's the spirit.

8883
03:57:42,780 --> 03:57:44,120
That was that one,

8884
03:57:44,120 --> 03:57:45,180
but again,

8885
03:57:45,520 --> 03:57:49,180
standout moment was...

8886
03:57:49,180 --> 03:57:49,900
For the Digerati...

8887
03:57:49,900 --> 03:57:50,740
Doring press...

8888
03:57:50,740 --> 03:57:52,300
The Digerati themselves.

8889
03:57:52,620 --> 03:57:53,520
Unless that was Jane.

8890
03:57:53,660 --> 03:57:54,220
Someone was on...

8891
03:57:54,220 --> 03:57:55,120
Look at him there, look.

8892
03:57:59,900 --> 03:58:00,420
Outfits.

8893
03:58:00,900 --> 03:58:01,580
Maybe...

8894
03:58:01,580 --> 03:58:02,840
That was Jane.

8895
03:58:02,840 --> 03:58:02,860
That was Jane.

8896
03:58:02,860 --> 03:58:04,020
Someone was saying Jane Withers

8897
03:58:04,020 --> 03:58:04,520
was there.

8898
03:58:04,520 --> 03:58:05,820
No, that's not her.

8899
03:58:05,960 --> 03:58:07,440
And weird outfits.

8900
03:58:07,780 --> 03:58:08,580
That's not her.

8901
03:58:12,160 --> 03:58:12,680
And...

8902
03:58:12,680 --> 03:58:14,160
Fits.

8903
03:58:14,900 --> 03:58:16,290
Yeah, we'll talk to you later

8904
03:58:16,290 --> 03:58:16,840
anyway.

8905
03:58:16,960 --> 03:58:18,560
Thanks very much for joining us

8906
03:58:18,560 --> 03:58:19,460
on this...

8907
03:58:19,460 --> 03:58:21,460
Situation edition...

8908
03:58:22,460 --> 03:58:23,460
Of the young...

8909
03:58:23,460 --> 03:58:25,720
Vladimir Putin chronicles.

8910
03:58:26,580 --> 03:58:27,680
Good evening.

8911
03:58:27,820 --> 03:58:28,540
Good afternoon.

8912
03:58:28,820 --> 03:58:29,820
And we'll talk to you later on.

8913
03:58:29,940 --> 03:58:31,020
Gird your loins.

8914
03:58:31,140 --> 03:58:31,840
Thank you very much.

8915
03:58:32,480 --> 03:58:33,220
We'll see you later.

8916
03:58:35,220 --> 03:58:35,960
Bye-bye.

8917
03:58:35,960 --> 03:58:55,860
Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.

8918
03:58:55,860 --> 03:59:08,740
Yuck, yuck, yuck.

8919
03:59:08,740 --> 03:59:38,720
Thank you.
